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Offline faithlilly

Dodgy Detectives.
« on: October 31, 2015, 12:29:32 AM »
It has been mentioned many times that while employing the best lawyers the McCanns have again and again managed to hire detectives who were either incompetent, dishonest or both.

First we had Metido3 who, amongst other faux pas, claimed they would have Madeleine home by Christmas. It would now also appear that not only were they obtaining money fraudulently from the fund but they lied about how many detectives they had investigating the disappearance and failed to take or follow up information obtained through their hotline.

The McCanns, latterly, were informed of the fraudulently obtained money yet choose to do nothing about it, citing SY's investigation as the reason. Of course this absolutely flies in the face of a claim by their spokesman last week that the McCanns ' would do everything to help the authorities' in the wake of the fraud revelations.

Then, of course, we had Oakley International and their charismatic director Halligen who not only failed to follow up information left on their hotline but was paid, it is reported, over half a million pounds for doing so. The McCanns, yet again, took no action. This time the reason is a mystery.

Finely of course we had Edgar and Cowley who, we were told in the court in Lisbon, had access to only the parts of the official files the McCanns wanted them to have access to and were themselves the subject of a Daily Mail exclusive in which it was revealed that prior to the infamous 'Victoria Beckham' press conference in which a businessman was allegedly asked while at a Barcelona marina if he had brought a woman's new daughter, the pair had made no relevant investigations at the site of the alleged incident.

Are the McCanns simply unlucky ?  Did they fail to follow up the fraudulent activity of both Halligen and Metodo3 because they feared the bad publicity or are their actions a sign of something more sinister and why, when it is undeniable that metodo3, Halligen and Edgar/Cowley severely hampered the search for Madeleine, they have chosen to pursue only Amaral for, it seems, unproven damage ?
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stephen25000

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Re: Dodgy Detectives.
« Reply #1 on: October 31, 2015, 07:22:21 AM »
It has been mentioned many times that while employing the best lawyers the McCanns have again and again managed to hire detectives who were either incompetent, dishonest or both.

First we had Metido3 who, amongst other faux pas, claimed they would have Madeleine home by Christmas. It would now also appear that not only were they obtaining money fraudulently from the fund but they lied about how many detectives they had investigating the disappearance and failed to take or follow up information obtained through their hotline.

The McCanns, latterly, were informed of the fraudulently obtained money yet choose to do nothing about it, citing SY's investigation as the reason. Of course this absolutely flies in the face of a claim by their spokesman last week that the McCanns ' would do everything to help the authorities' in the wake of the fraud revelations.

Then, of course, we had Oakley International and their charismatic director Halligen who not only failed to follow up information left on their hotline but was paid, it is reported, over half a million pounds for doing so. The McCanns, yet again, took no action. This time the reason is a mystery.

Finely of course we had Edgar and Cowley who, we were told in the court in Lisbon, had access to only the parts of the official files the McCanns wanted them to have access to and were themselves the subject of a Daily Mail exclusive in which it was revealed that prior to the infamous 'Victoria Beckham' press conference in which a businessman was allegedly asked while at a Barcelona marina if he had brought a woman's new daughter, the pair had made no relevant investigations at the site of the alleged incident.

Are the McCanns simply unlucky ?  Did they fail to follow up the fraudulent activity of both Halligen and Metodo3 because they feared the bad publicity or are their actions a sign of something more sinister and why, when it is undeniable that metodo3, Halligen and Edgar/Cowley severely hampered the search for Madeleine, they have chosen to pursue only Amaral for, it seems, unproven damage ?

Indeed. The mccanns capacity to pick crooks and/or incompetents to 'search' for Madeleine seems unparalleled.

Offline ShiningInLuz

Re: Dodgy Detectives.
« Reply #2 on: October 31, 2015, 08:02:30 AM »
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The McCanns, latterly, were informed of the fraudulently obtained money yet choose to do nothing about it, citing SY's investigation as the reason. Of course this absolutely flies in the face of a claim by their spokesman last week that the McCanns ' would do everything to help the authorities' in the wake of the fraud revelations.

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If and when I get some information beyond The Sun report on this, I will be able to give an informed opinion as to whether a fraud actually occurred and what I think should be done about it.  In the absence of this information, I cannot comment.
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Re: Dodgy Detectives.
« Reply #3 on: October 31, 2015, 08:37:50 AM »
It has been mentioned many times that while employing the best lawyers the McCanns have again and again managed to hire detectives who were either incompetent, dishonest or both.

First we had Metido3 who, amongst other faux pas, claimed they would have Madeleine home by Christmas. It would now also appear that not only were they obtaining money fraudulently from the fund but they lied about how many detectives they had investigating the disappearance and failed to take or follow up information obtained through their hotline.

The McCanns, latterly, were informed of the fraudulently obtained money yet choose to do nothing about it, citing SY's investigation as the reason. Of course this absolutely flies in the face of a claim by their spokesman last week that the McCanns ' would do everything to help the authorities' in the wake of the fraud revelations.

Then, of course, we had Oakley International and their charismatic director Halligen who not only failed to follow up information left on their hotline but was paid, it is reported, over half a million pounds for doing so. The McCanns, yet again, took no action. This time the reason is a mystery.

Finely of course we had Edgar and Cowley who, we were told in the court in Lisbon, had access to only the parts of the official files the McCanns wanted them to have access to and were themselves the subject of a Daily Mail exclusive in which it was revealed that prior to the infamous 'Victoria Beckham' press conference in which a businessman was allegedly asked while at a Barcelona marina if he had brought a woman's new daughter, the pair had made no relevant investigations at the site of the alleged incident.

Are the McCanns simply unlucky ?  Did they fail to follow up the fraudulent activity of both Halligen and Metodo3 because they feared the bad publicity or are their actions a sign of something more sinister and why, when it is undeniable that metodo3, Halligen and Edgar/Cowley severely hampered the search for Madeleine, they have chosen to pursue only Amaral for, it seems, unproven damage ?
I can think of no good reason why the McCanns would deliberately employ individuals intent on ripping them off, so perhaps you could shed some light on what you think might be the sinister reasons they had for doing so?

Offline G-Unit

Re: Dodgy Detectives.
« Reply #4 on: October 31, 2015, 10:10:28 AM »
I can think of no good reason why the McCanns would deliberately employ individuals intent on ripping them off, so perhaps you could shed some light on what you think might be the sinister reasons they had for doing so?

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Offline Montclair

Re: Dodgy Detectives.
« Reply #5 on: October 31, 2015, 10:29:26 AM »
Indeed. The mccanns capacity to pick crooks and/or incompetents to 'search' for Madeleine seems unparalleled.

But they certainly knew how to find the best lawyers, though, didn't they?

Offline Eleanor

Re: Dodgy Detectives.
« Reply #6 on: October 31, 2015, 10:45:53 AM »
Once is a mistake, twice is a choice, three times is a pattern.

Scotland Yard collected all of the information retained by the first and the last Firms of Detectives.  I don't know what they did about Halligen, but there probably wasn't any.  But SY certainly had an interest in what the other two had accomplished.

Offline Eleanor

Re: Dodgy Detectives.
« Reply #7 on: October 31, 2015, 10:48:18 AM »
But they certainly knew how to find the best lawyers, though, didn't they?

There are no Detective Agencies who specialise in Child Abduction as far as I know.  Lawyers deal in Law, and who wouldn't want a bad one.

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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Dodgy Detectives.
« Reply #9 on: October 31, 2015, 11:07:10 AM »
https://www.google.co.uk/?gws_rd=ssl#q=private+detectives+specializing+in+child+abductions

you obviously haven't looked at any of the search results. Any detective agency that specialised in stranger abduction of children would be out of business pretty quickly as these abducuctions are so rare....
I guarantee you will not find an agency that has any real experience in this field....

Offline Eleanor

Re: Dodgy Detectives.
« Reply #10 on: October 31, 2015, 11:09:20 AM »
https://www.google.co.uk/?gws_rd=ssl#q=private+detectives+specializing+in+child+abductions

Thank you, Stephen.  But they don't just specialise.  Who would?  They wouldn't earn very much, would they.
And please don't forget that investigating in Portugal would have been very difficult.

stephen25000

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Re: Dodgy Detectives.
« Reply #11 on: October 31, 2015, 11:09:53 AM »
you obviously haven't looked at any of the search results. Any detective agency that specialised in stranger abduction of children would be out of business pretty quickly as these abducuctions are so rare....
I guarantee you will not find an agency that has any real experience in this field....

Just one search dave, and let's face it, any company in this field who did just one type of work would not be in business long.

As for your guarantees............................

stephen25000

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Re: Dodgy Detectives.
« Reply #12 on: October 31, 2015, 11:11:17 AM »
Thank you, Stephen.  But they don't just specialise.  Who would?  They wouldn't earn very much, would they.
And please don't forget that investigating in Portugal would have been very difficult.

Investigating in an ongoing case would be illegal, if  reports are true.

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Dodgy Detectives.
« Reply #13 on: October 31, 2015, 11:13:08 AM »
Just one search dave, and let's face it, any company in this field who did just one type of work would not be in business long.

As for your guarantees............................

you cannot find an agency that specialises in stranger abductions...fact...anyone with any sense would realise that but you actually carry out a google search...despite repeatedly criticising those who use google....

Offline Angelo222

Re: Dodgy Detectives.
« Reply #14 on: October 31, 2015, 11:31:05 AM »
But they certainly knew how to find the best lawyers, though, didn't they?

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