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Disappeared and Abducted Children and Young Adults => Madeleine McCann (3) disappeared from her parent's holiday apartment at Ocean Club, Praia da Luz, Portugal on 3 May 2007. No trace of her has ever been found. => Topic started by: John on May 28, 2016, 05:07:40 PM
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Millions of Brits are reading “Maddie: The Truth of the Lie” online.
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By Natasha Donn
26 May 2016
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Just as the parents of Madeleine McCann are reported to be taking their legal dispute with former PJ detective Gonçalo Amaral to Portugal’s Supreme Court, the Resident has learnt that millions of Brits have been reading the book at the heart of the fight by accessing it online.
Since “Maddie: The Truth of the Lie” was once again cleared for sale following a ruling by the Appeal Court in Lisbon last month (click here), over two million one hundred and thirty eight thousand people have visited the Complete Mystery of Madeleine McCann forum - the site that carries a translation of the book into English - and related blogs.
Moderators say that following the ruling by three Lisbon judges that Amaral was within his right to self expression in publishing his thesis about what may have happened to Madeleine, visits to the three sites have been exceeding 200,000 - 300,000 a day.
In all, over 11 million people have viewed “Maddie: The Truth of the Lie” - while the global number of visits now stand at over 81 million.
What all this means in terms of a legal fight that is concentrated on outlawing the book is unclear.
It is not banned in any country of the world, and even though the McCanns are apparently intent on suing any publisher who takes it on for the UK market (click here), it appears to have been read by well over 11 million English-speakers.
This news comes in a week when the British press has suddenly opened the floodgates to celebrity criticism of the McCann parents.
Sharon Osbourne, the outspoken media personality and wife of heavy-metal singer-songwriter Ozzy Osbourne, labelled the couple “insane” to have left their children unattended while on the fateful family holiday to Praia da Luz nine years ago, while former model Katie Price, speaking on the Loose Women chat show, backed her comments saying the couple shouldn’t have gone on holiday if they weren’t prepared to take their children out with them.
Osbourne’s remarks were labelled “ill informed” and “ignorant” by a friend of the McCanns, but the retort got nothing like the same kind of media coverage.
Meantime, blogs in Portugal following the McCanns legal fight have stressed that the couple’s appeal to the Supreme Court is by no means a ‘done deal’.
The “next step” will be to find out if the court accepts it. This decision is unlikely to be taken before the end of June, reports Textusa (one of the blogs most active for what it calls “the right to exercise the duty of being a citizen), with “expected notification around a week later”.
“If there are no technical mistakes” - Textusa explains that the appeal has to follow certain rules - Amaral will then have his own time-scale to submit counter-arguments, all of which will take the case well past the judicial holidays in August.
“We don’t see a decision from the Supreme Justice Court on this case before Christmas, and even then we’re being optimistic”, says the blog that writes all its posts in English.
Also writing in English for the benefit of non-Portuguese visitors, the Projecto Justiça Gonçalo Amaral blogsite has revealed that contributions raised largely from Brits last year (click here) will cover Amaral’s latest call to defend what he maintains is an issue of the right to freedom of expression.
Says the blog: "We remain confident, as always, that Justice will be served and Freedom of Speech, of Opinion and of Information will prevail".
natasha.donn@algarveresident.com
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Erm, I thought that Natasha was an aspiring or possibly even an accomplished journalist.
As it happens, I don't expect any news this year either, but she's citing Textusa as a reliable source of information... ???
Oh dear.
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In light of Goncalo's recent rant against the unconscionable bounders who put his book (free and gratis) on line for all to read (depriving him of all that lovely loot from potential sales) I'm sure Goncalo's heart will leap for joy that so many have read it (on line).
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At some point, I think she'll need to think a bit more about her future career choices... I guess I'd better leave it there.
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In light of Goncalo's recent rant against the unconscionable bounders who put his book (free and gratis) on line for all to read (depriving him of all that lovely loot from potential sales) I'm sure Goncalo's heart will leap for joy that so many have read it (on line).
80 million worldwide.
Don't worry ferryman, he will be fine. 8((()*/
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"it appears to have been read by well over 11 million English-speakers".
@)(++(* Yeah right.
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In light of Goncalo's recent rant against the unconscionable bounders who put his book (free and gratis) on line for all to read (depriving him of all that lovely loot from potential sales) I'm sure Goncalo's heart will leap for joy that so many have read it (on line).
For the moment, the copyright is still with his publishers (and he gets royalties for books sold).
Somehow, I can't see the publishers being inundated by offers to publish an official English-language version...
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"it appears to have been read by well over 11 million English-speakers".
@)(++(* Yeah right.
I somewhat doubt those figures... IMO.
Where did they emanate from?
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One thing that has always puzzled me about the translation(s) of the book I have seen is that the chapters seem very short. Have the translations been abridged to cut out all the extra dull stuff, or is that really all there is?
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One thing that has always puzzled me about the translation(s) of the book I have seen is that the chapters seem very short. Have the translations been abridged to cut out all the extra dull stuff, or is that really all there is?
Something screwed up with the French translation, which was what AnnaEsse was translating from.
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How many millions of Portuguese speakers have read this book? Is it the most-widely read Portuguese book ever written? The lost earnings by having it available free for all to read would surely make a grown man weep, but not Amaral of course - like Matthew, Mark, Luke & John before him he's only interested in spreading The Word, and never mind about the money. @)(++(*
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One thing that has always puzzled me about the translation(s) of the book I have seen is that the chapters seem very short. Have the translations been abridged to cut out all the extra dull stuff, or is that really all there is?
Cut out?????
If so, Amaral should be even more profligate in sacking his editors than sacking his lawyers.
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The only way round it is for the follow-up book to be published, no doubt he is awaiting the Portuguese Supreme Court's decision on the McCanns appeal before going ahead.
ps like your avatar Alf.
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The only way round it is for another book to be published, no doubt he is awaiting the Portuguese Supreme Courts decision on the McCanns appeal.
ps like your avatar Alf.
If he publishes another book there will be a translation available online within a week.
PS: Thanks - apparently I run the risk of being sued for using it according to Alice, but I'm gonna take my chances... 8(>((
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If he publishes another book there will be a translation available online within a week.
PS: Thanks - apparently I run the risk of being sued for using it according to Alice, but I'm gonna take my chances... 8(>((
The difference being the first time he was grateful initially to have someone translate it and post it online to an English speaking audience since there was no other way to get it out but the second book shouldn't face the same restrictions so any attempt to reproduce it could attract threats and litigation just as those publishing the book 'Madeleine' made. I thought everyone could see that for themselves?
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The only way round it is for the follow-up book to be published, no doubt he is awaiting the Portuguese Supreme Court's decision on the McCanns appeal before going ahead.
ps like your avatar Alf.
I'll be interested to see if he gets his facts straight in the sequel, although I won't be holding my breath...
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The difference being the first time he/was grateful to have someone translate it and post it online to an English speaking audience but the second book shouldn't face the same restriction.
I wonder what his publishers thought about that?
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Nobody otherwise it would say so at the bottom.
It was altered by ferryman John, when he copied my post.
I said 'fine', not fine with a 'd'.
Perhaps you would like to check that.
Now if this is an acceptable habit, where could it lead ???
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I wonder what his publishers thought about that?
Quite, their loss of earnings too, maybe they were desperate for 80 million people to read it for free as well?
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Quite, their loss of earnings too, maybe they were desperate for 80 million people to read it for free as well?
Don't worry alf.
Just wait for his next book.
8(0(*
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It was altered by ferryman John, when he copied my post.
I said 'fine', not fine with a 'd'.
Perhaps you would like to check that.
Now if this is an acceptable habit, where could it lead ???
Sorry, didn't see that..defective quote now deleted. Warning issued.
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One thing that has always puzzled me about the translation(s) of the book I have seen is that the chapters seem very short. Have the translations been abridged to cut out all the extra dull stuff, or is that really all there is?
The original is equally short, the sort of book you can read in a café over a couple of cups of coffee.
The advantage of the original is that it flows better - a sort of a cross between a narrative and a Portuguese poem.
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Sorry, didn't see that..now deleted.
Thank you.
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If he publishes another book there will be a translation available online within a week.
PS: Thanks - apparently I run the risk of being sued for using it according to Alice, but I'm gonna take my chances... 8(>((
No I did not !.You seem to be being economical with the truth there old stick.
I said (before it was whooshed) "are you sure it is royalty free" ?.
If it is not you run the risk of about a tenner every time you use it which at your old posting rate would have been about £420.00 per week @)(++(*
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I somewhat doubt those figures... IMO.
Where did they emanate from?
Doubt away - it'll make no difference to the readership numbers.
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We can with certainty that these figures are wrong and 11 million brits have not read the book
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Erm, I thought that Natasha was an aspiring or possibly even an accomplished journalist.
As it happens, I don't expect any news this year either, but she's citing Textusa as a reliable source of information... ???
Oh dear.
It would be interesting to know which blogs/websites (if any) you would recommend as a reliable source of information.
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It would be interesting to know which blogs/websites (if any) you would recommend as a reliable source of information.
I know.
'stm' and '.....2'. %&5%£ %&5%£ %£5&% %£5&%
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It would be interesting to know which blogs/websites (if any) you would recommend as a reliable source of information.
they cannot count how many people have read the book...just the clicks on the site...the same person may have clicked on the site 100 times
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they cannot count how many people have read the book...just the clicks on the site...the same person may have clicked on the site 100 times
I wonder why you said that ? &%+((£
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I wonder why you said that ? &%+((£
because it is a fact
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because it is a fact
You mean on sites where the book is available ?
You can of course prove that ?
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You mean on sites where the book is available ?
You can of course prove that ?
it is industry standard....what is counted is each click....I've clicked on it half a dozen times today to copy quotes...i have never read the book.... to claim 11 million have read the book is patently absurd but the amaral cultists will believe it
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it is industry standard....what is counted is each click....I've clicked on it half a dozen times today to copy quotes...i have never read the book.... to claim 11 million have read the book is patently absurd but the amaral cultists will believe it
It was probably 3 supporters with Saint Vitus Dance.
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it is industry standard....what is counted is each click....I've clicked on it half a dozen times today to copy quotes...i have never read the book.... to claim 11 million have read the book is patently absurd but the amaral cultists will believe it
What? You've never read it but you know it well enough to lift quotes? How does that work?
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What? You've never read it but you know it well enough to lift quotes? How does that work?
quite simple...ive read parts of it
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IM not sure who is more culpable here for promoting GAs book the Mccans or the media
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quite simple...ive read parts of it
Poor research, read it all though dont make the same mistakes as ferryman hangingon single words or phrases, after all its not a professinal translation
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Well, this is a turn up for the books (sorry pun intended). What can the family expect now? they opened pandoras box and whoah!
Their arrogance and perceived self importance have overwhelemed a few million people. Quick roll out the celebs, the queen... your eyes...
All they had to do was say fk our reps lets find out what happened to our daughter (if they didn't already know), Let's start with real addmision at the beginning:- we did a listening service, we didn't do physical checks , we never kept track of the time with our 'listening', none of us have seen Maddie since we left the apartment, we left one of the doors unlocked, for (whatever reason they give). We couldn't see the apartment or the enterances from where we were sitting.
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Well, this is a turn up for the books (sorry pun intended). What can the family expect now? they opened pandoras box and whoah!
Their arrogance and perceived self importance have overwhelemed a few million people. Quick roll out the celebs, the queen... your eyes...
All they had to do was say fk our reps lets find out what happened to our daughter (if they didn't already know), Let's start with real addmision at the beginning:- we did a listening service, we didn't do physical checks , we never kept track of the time with our 'listening', none of us have seen Maddie since we left the apartment, we left one of the doors unlocked, for (whatever reason they give). We couldn't see the apartment or the enterances from where we were sitting.
Like, you mean, tell the truth ? £4%4%
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Like, you mean, tell the truth ? £4%4%
yuhuh! %£&)**#