Could an intruder have opened the shutter and climbed in the window?

[John]

When Kate says the curtains whooshed open. How open were they? Seems if they were fully closed seems extremely unlikely that an intruder would go out that way then close them from the outside. Also if he went out via the front door he would have to of closed them before he left... I guess you could open the shutters though by just reaching through the curtains slit/gap without actually drawing them apart...

The 'intruder' came in the front door according to the investigation.

[John]

Gerry established that it was possible to raise the shutters from the outside ...

Yes but only if the window is open allowing access to the pull strap.

[Eleanor]

Yes but only if the window is open allowing access to the pull strap.

Morning, John.  Whoops, Off Topic.

No probe if the window wasn't locked.

[pegasus]

When Kate says the curtains whooshed open. How open were they? Seems if they were fully closed seems extremely unlikely that an intruder would go out that way then close them from the outside. Also if he went out via the front door he would have to of closed them before he left... I guess you could open the shutters though by just reaching through the curtains slit/gap without actually drawing them apart...

I now think it was just the lightweight net curtains (not the partly opened heavier main curtains) which were seen being blown in by the wind.

[Eleanor]

I now think it was just the lightweight net curtains (not the partly opened heavier main curtains) which were seen being blown in by the wind.

There weren't any net curtains that I can see.

[pegasus]

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No prob if the window wasn't locked.

Precisely.
Both adults say they do not know whether it was locked or unlocked.
And it certainly doesn't autolock.

[pegasus]

There weren't any net curtains that I can see.

Very observant. Thanks. Looking at the PJ photos I think you are correct.

Now that is strange.
The lounge side window had net curtains (foto 12).
The dining area side window had net curtains (foto 12).
The kitchen side window didn't.
The lounge to balcony sliding door had net curtains (foto 11).
The south bedroom to balcony door had net curtains (foto 17).
See photos here http://www.mccannfiles.com/id155.html
So why did this north bedroom window have no net curtains?
Or are they hidden behind the main heavy curtains?

[DCI]

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Very observant. Thanks. Looking at the PJ photos I think you are correct.

Now that is strange.
The lounge side window had net curtains (foto 12).
The dining area side window had net curtains (foto 12).
The kitchen side window didn't.
The lounge to balcony sliding door had net curtains (foto 11).
The south bedroom to balcony door had net curtains (foto 17).
See photos here http://www.mccannfiles.com/id155.html
So why did this north bedroom window have no net curtains?
Or are they hidden behind the main heavy curtains?

There are net curtains Pegasus, see photo 9. You can see to the right of the ruler, on the windowcill.

Better view here

[lordpookles]

on the Madeliene Is Here documentry it shows the net curtains behind the long curtains billowing into the room as Kate describes what happened...

[John]

on the Madeliene Is Here documentry it shows the net curtains behind the long curtains billowing into the room as Kate describes what happened...

I agree, it was the short net curtains which billowed in the wind and not the full length curtains which were for all intents and purposes trapped between the spare bed and the wall..  Well spotted   

Are we all agreed then, there is no evidence that any intruder climbed in and out of that window?

[Brietta]

I agree, it was the short net curtains which billowed in the wind and not the full length curtains which were for all intents and purposes trapped between the spare bed and the wall..  Well spotted   

Are we all agreed then, there is no evidence that any intruder climbed in and out of that window?

I think you could safely say that; just as you could say there is no evidence that an intruder did not climb in and out of the window.

[slartibartfast]

I think you could safely say that; just as you could say there is no evidence that an intruder did not climb in and out of the window.

...or a celestial teapot floated in and then out... &%+((£

[pathfinder73]

I think you could safely say that; just as you could say there is no evidence that an intruder did not climb in and out of the window.

Kate left evidence on the window. There's no evidence of anybody going through the window. Thumb prints reveal the shutters were raised from the inside by crime experts. No abductor would risk leaving evidence by opening window/shutters from the inside when the door was hidden from the car park and a quicker exit. There's no evidence of abduction. This case is the Disappearance of Madeleine McCann not Abduction.

[Mr Gray]

Kate left evidence on the window. There's no evidence of anybody going through the window. Thumb prints reveal the shutters were raised from the inside by crime experts. No abductor would risk leaving evidence by opening window/shutters from the inside when the door was hidden from the car park and a quicker exit. There's no evidence of abduction. This case is the Disappearance of Madeleine McCann not Abduction.

That's what you say but the experts disagree with you and agree with the mccanns

[pathfinder73]

That's what you say but the experts disagree with you and agree with the mccanns

You know nothing only what they want you to know.