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Offline pathfinder73

Re: Strange Witness Statements
« Reply #780 on: January 29, 2015, 12:49:58 PM »
It was Rastaman who was alone. SC saw Sperrey with his wife later on.

JW in his rog said he saw the Sperreys entering the reception. They had a reservation at 9 in the tapas restaurant. Jes went to the toilet and Mike Sperrey was there.

"When I arrived, I headed to the WC near the pool area. He also was in the WC but appeared to be a taking a long time. I do not remember if he was still in that place when I left."
Smithman carrying a child in his arms checked his watch after passing the Smith family and the time was 10:03. Both are still unidentified 10 years later.

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Re: Strange Witness Statements
« Reply #781 on: January 29, 2015, 01:06:23 PM »
JW in his rog said he saw the Sperreys entering the reception. They had a reservation at 9 in the tapas restaurant. Jes went to the toilet and Mike Sperrey was there.

"When I arrived, I headed to the WC near the pool area. He also was in the WC but appeared to be a taking a long time. I do not remember if he was still in that place when I left."

I prefer to believe the statement taken the day after Madeleine went missing.

Offline Wonderfulspam

Re: Strange Witness Statements
« Reply #782 on: January 29, 2015, 01:08:13 PM »
I prefer to believe the statement taken the day after Madeleine went missing.

But you don't practice the same where the McCanns statements are concerned.

How Extraordinary!
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Re: Strange Witness Statements
« Reply #783 on: January 29, 2015, 01:16:51 PM »
But you don't practice the same where the McCanns statements are concerned.

How Extraordinary!

Where have I disputed the McCann's original statements?

Offline pathfinder73

Re: Strange Witness Statements
« Reply #784 on: January 29, 2015, 01:20:40 PM »
Where have I disputed the McCann's original statements?

So you agree Gerry used the key to enter the apartment and not the unlocked patio door re 4 May statement.
Smithman carrying a child in his arms checked his watch after passing the Smith family and the time was 10:03. Both are still unidentified 10 years later.

Offline Wonderfulspam

Re: Strange Witness Statements
« Reply #785 on: January 29, 2015, 01:22:33 PM »
Where have I disputed the McCann's original statements?

You believe Kate's curtains & the wind blowing the door shut, don't you?
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Re: Strange Witness Statements
« Reply #786 on: January 29, 2015, 01:30:06 PM »
You believe Kate's curtains & the wind blowing the door shut, don't you?

I believe K & G's first statements were written in accordance with the interpretation of the translator.
Like the proverbial (wise) Monkees "I'm a Believer". In most cases.

Offline slartibartfast

Re: Strange Witness Statements
« Reply #787 on: January 29, 2015, 02:55:30 PM »
I believe K & G's first statements were written in accordance with the interpretation of the translator.
Like the proverbial (wise) Monkees "I'm a Believer". In most cases.

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Offline pathfinder73

Re: Strange Witness Statements
« Reply #788 on: January 29, 2015, 02:58:56 PM »
I believe K & G's first statements were written in accordance with the interpretation of the translator.
Like the proverbial (wise) Monkees "I'm a Believer". In most cases.

Spain[edit]
A blonde girl, identical to Madeleine, was reported to be seen with a German family, at the Cabopino campsite on the Costa del Sol, just three days after the child went missing. It turned out, though, to be the daughter of Karsten Mayer, a German-speaking Swiss native.[18]

Two women reported seeing a child who looked like Madeleine with a man at a petrol station near Cartagena, Spain, on 21 August 2007. This was discounted after a thorough investigation by the Spanish National Police and Civil Guard.[19]

There was a further reported sighting, in early April 2012, on the Costa del Sol.[20]

Morocco[edit]
Marie Olli, a Norwegian woman living in the Spanish town of Fuengirola, contacted the police on 10 May 2007, claiming she had seen a girl matching Madeleine's description in a petrol station in Marrakech, Morocco. The girl, who was said to have appeared sad, was allegedly accompanied by a man in his late 30s.[21] At about the same time, a British tourist reported seeing Madeleine near the Marrakech Ibis hotel.[22] Though Interpol subsequently discounted these sightings, officers from Leicestershire police remained in Morocco for some days afterwards.[23] A Spanish tourist saw a girl resembling Madeleine as she drove through the town of Zaio in northern Morocco at the end of May.[24] Attention switched back to Morocco on 4 June, after GCHQ in Cheltenham picked up phone intercept messages in Arabic referring to "the little blonde girl", a German man, and a ferry from Tarifa in Spain.[25]

Another Spanish tourist, Isabel Gonzalez, has said that she saw a girl fitting Madeleine’s description being dragged across a street, also in Zaio, by a North African woman on 15 June.[8] Naoual Malhi, a Spanish woman of Moroccan origin, claimed to have spotted the girl with a woman in the village of Fnideq, on 21 August, but private investigators were unable to substantiate the lead.[26] A photograph of a blonde girl being carried on the back of a North African woman was taken on 31 August by Clara Torres, another Spanish tourist, in Zinat in northern Morocco, but it turned out to be a Moroccan girl.[24][27] A school inspector claimed to have seen the child in Karia Ba Mohamed around the start of October, but after enquiries the local police were adamant that she was not there.[28] Also, the Moroccan Interior Minister Chakib Benmoussa said, on 4 November, that there was no evidence to suggest that Madeleine was in Morocco.[29]

Elsewhere[edit]
There were two reported sightings in Belgium. The first was during May 2007 in Liège and the second occurred on 28 July on a café terrace in Tongeren. In the latter case, children’s therapist Katleen Sampermans said that Madeleine was in the company of a Dutch man and an English woman.[30][31] However, the girl turned out to be the 4-year-old daughter of a Belgian man.[32]

Security was tightened in Valletta, Malta, on 21 June following five reported sightings on the island. The total sightings had risen to 29 by 27 June.[33][34]

An Irish tourist reported a sighting in Međugorje, Bosnia and Herzegovina, at the beginning of November.[35] The child was later revealed to be the 3-year-old daughter of Slavko Dedić, a dentist from the nearby town of Ljubuški.[36]

Dutch student Melissa Fiering claimed that she saw Madeleine with a 'tall, swarthy man', at the L'Arche motorway service station restaurant in the south of France, on 15 February 2008.[37] However, the French police, after examining CCTV evidence, determined that the sighting was not of the missing child.[38]

The first reported sighting in Britain occurred in Dorset in February 2008. Retired civil servant Alan Cameron said that she was with a Portuguese couple who came to the door.[39]

A sighting of Madeline McCann was reported in the Sydney central business district on 17 March. The reported sighting, of a middle-aged man carrying a blonde girl, turned out to be a false alarm.[40]

There have been six reported sightings in Brazil. A witness reported seeing Madeleine on a plane flying to São Paulo, in late March. Five earlier reports had been investigated and discounted.[41]

The release of the Portuguese police case files in August 2008 revealed a possible sighting, in Amsterdam, Netherlands, in early May 2007. Anna Stam reported to Dutch police that a girl of three or four years of age, who resembled Madeleine, had come into her shop and had told her that the adult she was with was "a stranger" who "took me from my mummy" while she was on holiday.[42] She added that her name was "Maddy". The McCanns' spokesman Clarence Mitchell said that it was a "disgrace" that they had not been told by police about the reported sighting at the time.[42] The files included a 14-volume annexe of reported sightings, of Madeleine, across the world.[43]

The Swedish newspaper Aftonbladet published, in October 2009, a photograph of a girl, seen in Sweden, who bore a great similarity to Madeleine. The photographer claimed that the girl only spoke English, and was accompanied by a man who spoke Swedish.[44]

In New Zealand, CCTV video from a department store in southern Dunedin showed a girl who looked like Madeleine being led into the store by a man at around 9:00pm on 5 December 2007, seven months after her disappearance.[45][46]

A sighting in Leh, India, was reported on 28 July 2011. British and American tourists reportedly saw a young girl with a French/Belgian couple, who claimed that the child was theirs.[47] Although reports suggested DNA tests had been conducted,[48] the chief of police in Leh, Vivek Gupta, denied the reports and stated that no DNA test had been undertaken by the police.[47]

New Zealand police were informed of a possible sighting, in Queenstown, on 31 December 2012. The informant said that the girl she had seen had the same coloboma of the iris as Madeleine. After investigation, police identified the girl and stated that they were "absolutely satisfied" that the girl was not Madeleine

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sightings_of_Madeleine_McCann
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Smithman carrying a child in his arms checked his watch after passing the Smith family and the time was 10:03. Both are still unidentified 10 years later.

Offline pathfinder73

Re: Strange Witness Statements
« Reply #789 on: January 30, 2015, 02:56:17 PM »
Ricardo, As we discussed, I had a quick catch up with Gerry, just saying that the other descriptions are different from the photo fit (sketch) made by Gail and identified by Jane, that the witnesses appear to be credible, which would indicate the presence of various persons collecting for charities in the area before Madeleine was taken. I informed him that everything was sent to you.

We did not manage to speak to Jane and we will not divulge our photo fits to anyone, except to you, unless their is a request from your side. It seems there were at least 3 people perhaps, requesting donations for charity organisations in the area during the weeks before Madeleine was taken. (Stu Prior 18 Jan 2008)

Catch up with Gerry. That's nice but what about crecheman? Well done  8@??)(

http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/POWERPOINT.htm
Smithman carrying a child in his arms checked his watch after passing the Smith family and the time was 10:03. Both are still unidentified 10 years later.

Offline pathfinder73

Re: Strange Witness Statements
« Reply #790 on: January 31, 2015, 01:43:45 PM »
Friday, 1 June 2007

Jim Gamble, of the Child Exploitation and Online Protection Centre (CEOP), said some offenders who viewed child porn could be given a police caution.

Critics say people who view child pornography should not escape jail.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/6713455.stm

SY if you're reading please investigate Gamble and that empty CATS file 19309. CEOP were after Murat as the one who did it. Ta very much.

CATS
Overview
WPC has been supporting CATS (Case Administration and Tracking System), owned by Nottinghamshire Police, since 2007.  The system currently consists of three modules - Child Protection, Domestic Abuse and Vulnerable Adult.
The CATS system was developed in the absence of a national database for Child Protection, and in light of the recommendation in Lord Laming's Report into the death of Victoria Climbie that Chief Constables must ensure that their police force has in use an effective  Child Protection database and IT management system.
The Domestic Abuse module was developed later to complement the Child Protection system.  Further development was carried out by WPC to integrate the two modules along with a third for recording incidents involving Vulnerable Adults.
System Benefits
• CATS gives a much clearer picture of the child or vulnerable person referred to them. The data collected in CATS can be used to piece together vital information on family background of that individual, helping the user make more informed decisions.
• CATS may also be used to help identify previous accusations against suspects offering further lines of investigation and valuable information to help assess the safety of the vulnerable person.
• Incidents go through a managed process, from a new referral to a finalised incident. As a case is progressed, CATS validates the information collected and ensures the case has visibility to the relevant officers and staff members.
• Incident Reports can be generated for sharing of information between Police and Social Services.
• A full audit trail is available in CATS, which enables supervisors to monitor usage of the system.

« Last Edit: January 31, 2015, 01:46:55 PM by pathfinder73 »
Smithman carrying a child in his arms checked his watch after passing the Smith family and the time was 10:03. Both are still unidentified 10 years later.

Offline pathfinder73

Re: Strange Witness Statements
« Reply #791 on: January 31, 2015, 06:51:19 PM »
Officer in case: Det Supt Prior
Client: Leicestershire Police, New Parks
Police reference: 07/06085 Qperation TASK
Laboratory reference:
Order reference: 300 555190
Scientist:400 913 609
Scientist: LESLEY DENTON
Number of pages: 2

Re: Abduction of Madeleine McCann on 3rd May 2007

A DNA profile has been obtained from the reference samples of Kate HEALY 51162896) and Gerald McCANN (51162897).

A DNA profile has also been obtained from a pillowcase (SJM/1).

DNA profiling reveals a series of bands, half of which a child inherits from their natural mother (maternal) and half of which ït ïnherits from their natural father
(paternal)

In this case, all of the bands present in the profïle of abtained from the pillowcase are represented in the combined profiles of Kate HEALY and Gerald McCANN. This is what I would expect to find if the profile obtained from the pillowcase originated from a natural child of theirs.

The results of the DNA profife obtaïned from the pïllowcase is approximately 29 million times more likely if the profïle originates form a natural child of theirs rather than someone unrelated to them.

In my opinion, the results detailed above provide extremely strong support for the view that the profile obtained from the pillowcase originated from a natural child of Kate HEALY and Gerald McCANN.

http://www.mccannfiles.com/id268.html

On 12 October 2007, the Forensic Science Service(R) received a blood spot in a cardboard frame (object JRB/1) from Leicestershire Constabulary. That object was inside a sealed package.

JRB/1 Madeleine McCann
From this sample was obtained a DNA reference sample that was different from those of her immediate family, described above. This DNA profile was the same as that obtained from possible spots of saliva existing on the pillowcase (SJM/1).

Neither the DNA profile of Amelie McCANN nor Sean McCANN matches that from the pillowcase (SJM/1) and therefore in my opinion, neither Amelie McCANN nor Sean McCANN can be the source of this profile.

Am I missing something here? It has to be Madeleine. That looks like a match to me &%+((£
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Smithman carrying a child in his arms checked his watch after passing the Smith family and the time was 10:03. Both are still unidentified 10 years later.

Offline jassi

Re: Strange Witness Statements
« Reply #792 on: January 31, 2015, 08:27:23 PM »
Is there any further information as to where this blood sample  (object JRB/1) was collected from?
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

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Online misty

Re: Strange Witness Statements
« Reply #793 on: January 31, 2015, 09:05:40 PM »
Is there any further information as to where this blood sample  (object JRB/1) was collected from?

The Forensic Science Service(R) received the [above] objects on 7 August 2007, in sealed, secure packages.

On 8 August 2007, the Forensic Science Service(R) received a piece of cloth/cotton wool (object MJN994) from Leicestershire Constabulary. That object was inside a sealed package.

On 12 October 2007, the Forensic Science Service(R) received a blood spot in a cardboard frame (object JRB/1) from Leicestershire Constabulary. That object was inside a sealed package.

Analysis
*snip*
Oral swabs of reference material

CB/1 Gerald McCann
CB/2 Kate McCann (nee Healy)
SBM/2 Amelie McCann
SBM/3 Sean McCann

My colleague, Sarah Vraitch, furnished me with copies of reference DNA profiles of the above individuals. Each of the profiles was different from the others.

FSS-GF-679 Emissao 2, Pagina 6

14 Pedro Vilhena
286/2007CRL22 Fernando Viegas
286/2007CRL23 Lino Henriques
286/2007CRL24 Bruno Antunes

The DNA profiles of these persons were obtained from their respective samples. The profiles were not only different from each other, they were different from those of the McCann family.

JRB/1 Madeleine McCann
From this sample was obtained a DNA reference sample that was different from those of her immediate family, described above. This DNA profile was the same as that obtained from possible spots of saliva existing on the pillowcase (SJM/1).


Offline Brietta

Re: Strange Witness Statements
« Reply #794 on: January 31, 2015, 09:43:54 PM »
The Forensic Science Service(R) received the [above] objects on 7 August 2007, in sealed, secure packages.

On 8 August 2007, the Forensic Science Service(R) received a piece of cloth/cotton wool (object MJN994) from Leicestershire Constabulary. That object was inside a sealed package.

On 12 October 2007, the Forensic Science Service(R) received a blood spot in a cardboard frame (object JRB/1) from Leicestershire Constabulary. That object was inside a sealed package.

Analysis
*snip*
Oral swabs of reference material

CB/1 Gerald McCann
CB/2 Kate McCann (nee Healy)
SBM/2 Amelie McCann
SBM/3 Sean McCann

My colleague, Sarah Vraitch, furnished me with copies of reference DNA profiles of the above individuals. Each of the profiles was different from the others.

FSS-GF-679 Emissao 2, Pagina 6

14 Pedro Vilhena
286/2007CRL22 Fernando Viegas
286/2007CRL23 Lino Henriques
286/2007CRL24 Bruno Antunes

The DNA profiles of these persons were obtained from their respective samples. The profiles were not only different from each other, they were different from those of the McCann family.

JRB/1 Madeleine McCann
From this sample was obtained a DNA reference sample that was different from those of her immediate family, described above. This DNA profile was the same as that obtained from possible spots of saliva existing on the pillowcase (SJM/1).

The pillowslip ... Dr McCann returned from Portugal to collect something of Madeleine's for DNA tests.

The blood spot ... Madeleine's neonatal heel prick test, maybe??
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....