Strange Witness Statements

[misty]

Kate Healy TUE 1 May from PJ Files - last call 22:27. Crying reported from 22:30

WITH THANKS TO PAULO REIS:   LINK:   FOR THE DETAILED ANALYSIS REPORT, IT IS FOR INFORMATION ONLY AND IS NOT PART OF THE OFFICIAL RELEASED PJ FILES.

*snip*
* When the PJ obtained the McCann's mobiles they do not appear to have retrieved deleted data or to extract their contact lists
*None of the telecom records show triangulation co-ordinates but are limited to identifying the single primary antenna on which calls were registered
* The details of over 50 UK subscribers contacted by the Tapas 9 in the critical period, as well as their onward local and international call records, was included in the Rogatory Letter request in December 2007. If this information was provided, it is not in the CD
 * A critical link chart (Anexo 37) for Tuesday 1st May 2007 is missing from Inspector Dias's report

 These omissions make interpretation of the data difficult but what is available provides an interesting picture. First, it is obvious that the memories in the McCanns mobiles were incomplete and, in Kate McCann's case, selectively deleted.

[Matthew Wyse]

So,  you have never had a glass of wine or two when the children have been put to bed?    Or had a  B-B-Q and had a drink with friends in the garden?

Thats not what happened.  They left and children on their own and went off for a jolly.

The other side of the coin is important in the context of the various theories being promulgated.  Had the parents been intoxicated I would find it very difficult to believe they would have had the presence of mind to do what some accuse them of.

[pathfinder73]

WITH THANKS TO PAULO REIS:   LINK:   FOR THE DETAILED ANALYSIS REPORT, IT IS FOR INFORMATION ONLY AND IS NOT PART OF THE OFFICIAL RELEASED PJ FILES.

*snip*
* When the PJ obtained the McCann's mobiles they do not appear to have retrieved deleted data or to extract their contact lists
*None of the telecom records show triangulation co-ordinates but are limited to identifying the single primary antenna on which calls were registered
* The details of over 50 UK subscribers contacted by the Tapas 9 in the critical period, as well as their onward local and international call records, was included in the Rogatory Letter request in December 2007. If this information was provided, it is not in the CD
 * A critical link chart (Anexo 37) for Tuesday 1st May 2007 is missing from Inspector Dias's report

 These omissions make interpretation of the data difficult but what is available provides an interesting picture. First, it is obvious that the memories in the McCanns mobiles were incomplete and, in Kate McCann's case, selectively deleted.

Nothing in "Madeleine" about the time they got back or those rapid succession of phone calls before the reported crying from a witness in the apartment above.

"Only two minor aspects of that evening stand out as differing from the norm. The first was that Russell didn’t join us for dinner. Evie wasn’t well so he stayed with their girls in the apartment and Jane took his meal to him there. The second was that some time in the early hours Madeleine came through to our bedroom, complaining that Amelie was crying and had woken her up. Gerry checked on Amelie, who settled quickly, and we let Madeleine jump into bed with us." (Madeleine)

[Lace]

Thats not what happened.  They left and children on their own and went off for a jolly.

The other side of the coin is important in the context of the various theories being promulgated.  Had the parents been intoxicated I would find it very difficult to believe they would have had the presence of mind to do what some accuse them of.

You said the consumption of any alcohol would be inappropriate with young babies,   so it's ok as long as you don't go down the road for dinner is what you are saying?

I don't think it was excusable for them to leave the children,  but for you to say it's ok to drink as long as you stay in the apartment, is a bit ridiculous.

They weren't intoxicated,  if they had been I am sure the police would have noted it.

[Lace]

Nothing in "Madeleine" about the time they got back? Those rapid succession of phone calls before the reported crying from a witness in the apartment above.

"Only two minor aspects of that evening stand out as differing from the norm. The first was that Russell didn’t join us for dinner. Evie wasn’t well so he stayed with their girls in the apartment and Jane took his meal to him there. The second was that some time in the early hours Madeleine came through to our bedroom, complaining that Amelie was crying and had woken her up. Gerry checked on Amelie, who settled quickly, and we let Madeleine jump into bed with us." (Madeleine)

Jane didn't take his meal to him there,  so there's been a bit of mis interpretation there hasn't there?

[pathfinder73]

You said the consumption of any alcohol would be inappropriate with young babies,   so it's ok as long as you don't go down the road for dinner is what you are saying?

I don't think it was excusable for them to leave the children,  but for you to say it's ok to drink as long as you stay in the apartment, is a bit ridiculous.

They weren't intoxicated,  if they had been I am sure the police would have noted it.

The McCanns were definitely not drunk on the 3rd. I was talking about the 1st - no police saw them at midnight.

[Matthew Wyse]

You said the consumption of any alcohol would be inappropriate with young babies,   so it's ok as long as you don't go down the road for dinner is what you are saying?

I don't think it was excusable for them to leave the children,  but for you to say it's ok to drink as long as you stay in the apartment, is a bit ridiculous.

They weren't intoxicated,  if they had been I am sure the police would have noted it.

It was extremely poor parenting but then they realise this now.

[faithlilly]

Nothing in "Madeleine" about the time they got back? Those rapid succession of phone calls before the reported crying from a witness in the apartment above.

"Only two minor aspects of that evening stand out as differing from the norm. The first was that Russell didn’t join us for dinner. Evie wasn’t well so he stayed with their girls in the apartment and Jane took his meal to him there. The second was that some time in the early hours Madeleine came through to our bedroom, complaining that Amelie was crying and had woken her up. Gerry checked on Amelie, who settled quickly, and we let Madeleine jump into bed with us." (Madeleine)

Deleted.

[pathfinder73]

Jane didn't take his meal to him there,  so there's been a bit of mis interpretation there hasn't there?

"I actually carried his meals back to the room on that night." (JT Rog)

[Lace]

The McCanns were definitely not drunk on the 3rd. I was talking about the 1st - no police saw them at midnight that night.

 Sorry,   I was replying to a post by Matthew Wyse not yours pathfinder.

[Lace]

"I actually carried his meals back to the room on that night." (JT Rog)

The waiter said he held the meal back,  and they were saying that he had had a fresh steak cooked for him,  the waiter noticed a piece of steak left on the plate when they had all left.

[Eleanor]

Thats not what happened.  They left and children on their own and went off for a jolly.

The other side of the coin is important in the context of the various theories being promulgated.  Had the parents been intoxicated I would find it very difficult to believe they would have had the presence of mind to do what some accuse them of.

Good Point.  All that running about and hiding bodies if they were drunk?

[pathfinder73]

The waiter said he held the meal back,  and they were saying that he had had a fresh steak cooked for him,  the waiter noticed a piece of steak left on the plate when they had all left.

We're talking about the night Russell stayed in - Tuesday 1 May. Jane brought his meals to him.

Matt stayed in Sunday
Russ Tuesday
Rachel Wednesday

[misty]

Nothing in "Madeleine" about the time they got back? Those rapid succession of phone calls before the reported crying from a witness in the apartment above.

"Only two minor aspects of that evening stand out as differing from the norm. The first was that Russell didn’t join us for dinner. Evie wasn’t well so he stayed with their girls in the apartment and Jane took his meal to him there. The second was that some time in the early hours Madeleine came through to our bedroom, complaining that Amelie was crying and had woken her up. Gerry checked on Amelie, who settled quickly, and we let Madeleine jump into bed with us." (Madeleine)

Where does it state that the phone pings were calls rather than texts? Where does it state the exact location of the phone?
Please do not quote Paulo Reis reports, which include comments about busty aerobics instructors, as official police documents.

[Lace]

We're talking about the night Russell stayed in - Tuesday 1 May. Jane brought his meals to him.

Matt stayed in Sunday
Russ Tuesday
Rachel Wednesday

Oh,  right ok.    Getting a bit confused with answering different posts.