Website that analyses the Anni Dewani murder in detail

[Passer-by]

You were not asked to spit out a random unsolved crime statistic. You were asked whether you could substantiate your claim that "so many cases end like this" ("this" being a criminal getting a free pass despite having indemnity withdrawn and having confessed to his deep involvement in a crime that resulted in murder).

You cannot substantiate it.

We know this because we have researched this scenario and have been unable to find a single case that even comes close to being similar. The instance of Mbolombo is unique and proffers many questions, although the answers are in plain sight.

The NPA is scared to prosecute Mbolombo, for (as John and Carbon Copy pointed out earlier in the thread), it would open a can of worms that would explode in their faces. Once Mbolombo was facing 25+ years in prison, he would sing like a canary and blow the lid on the entire malicious prosecution of Shrien Dewani.

Mbolombo would likely continue to cover for the fifth conspirator due to personal safety fears, but he would hold no loyalty toward the SAPS or the NPA. He would expose the ineptitude of the SAPS and the NPA who failed to verify the hitman story before building high profile prosecutions upon it. He would expose their complicity in framing Shrien Dewani and pursuing a malicious prosecution by dangling attractive plea deals in the faces of the real criminals in exchange for their fabricated testimony about a murder for hire. He would expose the despicable way in which the Hindocha family were misled by the NPA into approving such generous plea deals for the armed kidnappers who took the life of their daughter. 

The fallout would be tremendous. High profile figures in South Africa would be exposed - Rodney de Kock, Bheki Cele, Justice Robert Henney to name but a few who would be dragged into the spotlight. 

That is why Mblolombo continues to enjoy his freedom and that is why we will continue to expose and publicise this miscarriage of justice.

Another ongoing case where the husband paid 2 hitmen to murder his wife by shooting her and dumping her body on the edge of a Township, and the Middle-man who arranged the hitmen has had charges dropped as part of a plea bargain. 

As part of the plea-bargain the middleman got the husband to make another payment after the murder to trap him.  Readers of this thread and followers of the Dewani story will note not only that this means Mbolombo's situation is not as unique as Dewanifacts claimed, but will also recall the Dewani too gave further money to Tongo in a carrier bag after his wife's murder, preferring to make a purchase in a local stationers in order to obtain the bag to attending an important Hindu ceremony with his wife's body, which he left Anni's father to deal with.

Luthando Siyoli has had charges against him dropped despite confessing to his role in the murder of Jayde Pananyiotou: 

http://ewn.co.za/2015/08/12/Charges-against-alleged-middleman-in-Panayiotou-case-dropped

The husband's trial is ongoing.

Depressingly there seem to be a lot of murders in South Africa where a spouse has contracted killers.

[dewanifacts]

the Middle-man who arranged the hitmen has had charges dropped as part of a plea bargain. 

Still pumping out misinformation I see. Siyoli hasn't had his charges dropped. He's been offered Section 204 immunity from prosecution, contingent on him giving truthful testimony against Pana.

The similarities with Mbolombo begin and end with the fact that Siyoli was involved in a murder and has been offered Section 204 immunity.

His situation will only be comparable to Mbolombo's if:

1. Siyoli commits perjury in one or more criminal trials
2. Siyoli confesses to being involved in Jayde's murder
3. Siyoli tries to implicate his victim as a conspirator to the crime and is caught fabricating evidence to this end
4. Siyoli has his immunity from prosecution withdrawn
5. ....the NPA decides to reward items 1-4 by electing not to prosecute Siyoli
 

[Passer-by]

Thanks for clarifying that:  I knew I'd flush you out and that it wasn't just coincidence that you had vanished for 6 days after I posted about Dewani's illegal transaction at the dodgy jewellers.

Again and again you have just blanked my posts on that. I have repeatedly pointed out it was odd that Dewani didn't just use his UK bank card in the many ATMs and banks by his hotel:  you haven't uttered a peep on the subject.  I have since discovered that Dewani did draw out £800 on his credit card at a Waterfront cashpoint the evening before the murder: you knew this, didn't you?  It makes it almost certain that I am correct in my suggestion he sold gold jewelry at the dodgy jewellers in the unrecorded transaction which gave him ample extra funds to pay for some hitmen.

You have also blanked my extensive posts about the sheer improbability of Dewani accidentally getting an unlicensed Taxidriver at the airport:  I've posted maps of traffic flow through the airport, described in detail both as a passenger and as someone waiting to meet a passenger and explained the policing of the airport's was so good in 2010 that he would have needed to go out to the car park to find one.

I've since found out that Dewani's secretary booked Tongo from London: you probably knew that too, didn't you?  So I was right all along:  they didn't randomly meet up, it was pre-arranged.

And that's where the elusive Mr Mbolombo comes in, doesn't it?  You keep on referring to the South Africans not seeking justice for him, but also not seeking his prosecution is Dewani.  Because just how did Dewani's secretary get Tongo's number in order to book him?  That elusive 5th contact who, let's face it, neither Dewani nor Mbolombo nor any of the others wants to have named for their good.

[Passer-by]

That's a great post! 

Now that I don't take you seriously I can just pretend like I'm watching a monkey at the zoo and enjoy the show. 

You've mentioned gay bondage sites in at least 10 posts. Is there actually any evidence of this? I am fairly well versed in the facts of the case but I confess to not paying super close attention to which genres of gayness he was indulging in. I do remember that his internet history showed that he had accessed his gaydar profile in the days after the murder, and I know that the German Master prostitute was indeed a gay bondage specialist, but gay bondage web sites don't ring a bell....

Can you substantiate? 

EDIT: Have googled. You are correct. He visited a site called Recon which is a gay fetish dating site.

As an adjunct to this - because his sexuality is relevant to motive - on the website 'Gaydar' when setting up his profile he could have chosen the description 'Bisexual man' from the drop down box, but in fact he chose 'Gay man'.

I daresay before you edited this post at the end, you were planning to say he was seeking emotional solace from gay friends.  But of course he wasn't:  he was just enjoying anonymous gay bondage porn 2 days after his wife's body was found.  Dewani is gay, not bisexual - as you previously said, only he can know what his preferences are, and he clearly demonstrated those were on his Gaydar profile. His family was unaware of his sexuality.

Dewani had both the means and the motive.

[dewanifacts]

I made it pretty clear why I stopped engaging you. Namely because I cannot take you seriously and because you steadfastly refused to explore anything other than the unlikehoods of Dewani's story. I conceded that there were aspects of Dewani's story that seemed unlikely and asked you to direct attention to unlikelihoods on the other side of the equation, which I have pasted again below for you have a think about.

Here's the alternative scenario and a few of the highly unlikely events contained within. If one believes the hitman story to be true, then one believes that each and every one of these highly unlikely occurences took place.

The judge didn't buy it. Do you?

Planning stage:

- a man decides to kill his wife of 2 weeks on honeymoon
- this man asks the first taxi driver he meets to organise this murder
- this taxi driver says he cannot help because he is not a criminal, but immediately says that he knows a man who can. Monde Mbolombo
- the taxi driver calls Mbolombo who also says that he is not a criminal and cannot help but conveniently knows a couple of people who can and he immediately calls them and arranges the murder
- these 4 men agree to commit this heinous crime for a 1/4 or 1/5 share of R15000 each, despite 2 of them being fully employed and their share of the proceeds being equivalent to a few days salary.
- the taxi driver is willing to risk his car which is his livelihood all for this paltry return

Operational stage:

- the taxi driver makes no effort to ensure that the money is in the glovebox as "agreed" before the first pass through Gugulethu
- the man does not even have the "agreed" R15000 on his person  so he is short changing the two unknown dangerous gunmen who will be carrying out his murder operation whilst he is in the taxi with them.

The aftermath stage:

- the man who is clearly aware of cctv cameras everywhere, borrows a policemans phone to invite the taxi driver back to a hotel to receive the balance of the murder payment
- 3 of the 4 conspirators at first admit that it was a robbery gone wrong and describe the man as an innocent victim, corroborating the story told by the man
- suddenly like dominoes, all 3 conspirators change their story to implicate the man - in exchange for generous lenient sentences.

The court process stage:

- Whilst telling this "truthful" story in court, the conspirators contradict each other on each and every material detail relating to the crime and are caught fabricating evidence to incriminate the man, despite their plea deals being contingent upon telling the truth.

Your recent posts are going even further down the road of speculation built upon even more speculation, with the incredible result being that you are "almost certain" that you are correct, despite having no proof whatsoever to substantiate your claims.

What is your source for the claim that Dewani's PA (Sian I believe her name was) pre-booked Tongo? This was one of the early rumours but was disproven and it is common cause fact that Dewani met Tongo for the first time at the airport when he landed. Do you understand what "common cause fact" means? It means that a fact is accepted as being true by all parties; prosecution, defence and the court itself. Do you not think that if Tongo had been pre-booked that it might have bolstered the State's case, and that they would have introduced such claims in court, had there been any evidence to that effect?

I won't waste any further time on this point (or any other points that have already been disproven).

Mr Dewani's travel money transactions were not at all strange or suspicious. Many travellers primarily rely on their card to withdraw cash from ATMs but most will also take a backup supply of their local cash or of any other currency that they happen to have, just in case their card gets swallowed by a machine or is blocked. Nothing worse than being stuck in a foreign country without being able to access money. There is nothing unusual about Dewani making an ATM withdrawal and there is nothing unusual about him having a parcel of £GBP (or $US if you believe the jewellery store owner) with him that he converted to local currency. You are trying to imply that this is somehow proof of wrongdoing when in fact it proves nothing at all. The fact that he went to the jeweller can be very simply explained by him asking Tongo to recommend a place to exchange some money at a good rate and Tongo taking him to the jewellery store.   

[dewanifacts]

on the website 'Gaydar' when setting up his profile he could have chosen the description 'Bisexual man' from the drop down box, but in fact he chose 'Gay man'.

This was dealt with in the trial by Judge Traverso who, displaying a moment of humour, told the court that if she described herself as a beautiful 25 year old on a dating website, that would not necessarily make her a beautiful 25 year old in reality.

The same is true for Dewani. The box he ticked has no weight in proving what sexuality he identifies with.

[Passer-by]

I made it pretty clear why I stopped engaging you. Namely because I cannot take you seriously and because you steadfastly refused to explore anything other than the unlikehoods of Dewani's story. I conceded that there were aspects of Dewani's story that seemed unlikely and asked you to direct attention to unlikelihoods on the other side of the equation, which I have pasted again below for you have a think about.

Your recent posts are going even further down the road of speculation built upon even more speculation, with the incredible result being that you are "almost certain" that you are correct, despite having no proof whatsoever to substantiate your claims.

What is your source for the claim that Dewani's PA (Sian I believe her name was) pre-booked Tongo? This was one of the early rumours but was disproven and it is common cause fact that Dewani met Tongo for the first time at the airport when he landed. Do you understand what "common cause fact" means? It means that a fact is accepted as being true by all parties; prosecution, defence and the court itself. Do you not think that if Tongo had been pre-booked that it might have bolstered the State's case, and that they would have introduced such claims in court, had there been any evidence to that effect?

I won't waste any further time on this point (or any other points that have already been disproven).

Mr Dewani's travel money transactions were not at all strange or suspicious. Many travellers primarily rely on their card to withdraw cash from ATMs but most will also take a backup supply of their local cash or of any other currency that they happen to have, just in case their card gets swallowed by a machine or is blocked. Nothing worse than being stuck in a foreign country without being able to access money. There is nothing unusual about Dewani making an ATM withdrawal and there is nothing unusual about him having a parcel of £GBP (or $US if you believe the jewellery store owner) with him that he converted to local currency. You are trying to imply that this is somehow proof of wrongdoing when in fact it proves nothing at all. The fact that he went to the jeweller can be very simply explained by him asking Tongo to recommend a place to exchange some money at a good rate and Tongo taking him to the jewellery store.

You posted a photo of a fallus yet claim you can't take ME seriously?  Blimey, I think you take yourself too seriously.

I'm the one who has posted at length that the normal thing for Dewani to do was to draw out money from an ATM on his UK bank card - and lo and behold he did so the night before.

And I'm the one who has posted at length that the highly unusual thing to do is to conduct an illegal money transaction in a dodgy second hand jewellers that trades gold as well. - which he did a few hours before.  We don't know how much cash he got or what he did with it.

The fact is, it is only proven that Dewani had sex with men and called himself gay online and went to extraordinary lengths to avoid having sex with his pretty girlfriend.  What lies you or the judge are willing to stretch to if online dating is both speculation and irrelevant.  The judge may well need to present herself as young and pretty to get a date, whereas Dewani describing himself as bisexual made no material difference to the dating outcome for him, especially as in addition the site has a drop-down box for the kind of relationship sought:  'bisexual man' 'looking for gay men' will not have limited him getting dates like a real photograph and age of the judge would for her.  This is why British trial by jury is an eminently better system than speculation by lone judge who picks and chooses what evidence she will hear.

[dewanifacts]

What is your source for your claim that Dewani's PA pre-booked Tongo?

[dewanifacts]

I'm the one who has posted at length that the normal thing for Dewani to do was to draw out money from an ATM on his UK bank card - and lo and behold he did so the night before.

So your point is that you wasted a lot of words posting at length to prove something that did not even require proving. Well done.

We don't know how much cash he got or what he did with it.

We also don't know whether Dewani stole anything from the shops at the VA Waterfront. Do you think it would be a mistake to catagorically rule that option out? If such an accusation were levelled at him, I think its fair to say that he would find it hard to "prove" that he didn't steal anything.....

[John]

The posts in the main are very interesting and indeed informative but the primary posters are damaging their arguments by bringing in petty sniping and point scoring.  All inappropriate comments are currently being totally removed to leave the thread a worthwhile read by anyone still interested in the case.

Petty comments will in future be removed on sight.

[John]

They didn't turn up for the dinner reservation, instead they went to a Sushi Bar in Strand (an Afrikaner holiday resort certainly not the 'real Africa').  Then on the return journey Anni allegedly spontaneously decided she would like to see 'the real Africa' again.  Perhaps she thought nightlife in the Township kicked-off after 9.45pm and the previously deserted streets would be full of life, who knows?

I must admit I too wondered about this very same situation.  The hotel they were staying at made the advance dinner booking for them at 96 Winery Road restaurant in Somerset West, they drive all the way out there but instead go to some sushi bar for a snack on the pretence of rushing back to an unlit closed shantytown barbeque joint?  Sorry but that just doesn't add up.



The reservations book of the 96 Winery Road restaurant. According to Shrien Dewani the couple decided during the journey that they weren't hungry enough for a full meal having eaten by the pool during the day.

[John]

(I put 'marrying' and 'wife' in inverted commas because they weren't legally married, it was only a religious ceremony in India, they were due to legally marry in the UK later.)

That I never knew.  So the victim was never Anni Dewani at all but Anni Hindocha?

[mercury]

What is your source for your claim that Dewani's PA pre-booked Tongo?

This?
it seems Tongo was the source, surely phone records can prove it either way.....if they weren't (as I didn't follows the case)


According to Tongo, the killing was planned and carried out within 24 hours of the Dewanis arriving at Cape Town airport after four days on safari. Tongo, a limousine driver who offered himself for private hire, had been booked by Mr Dewani’s secretary to take the couple to the luxury Cape Race hotel.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/8187489/Honeymoon-murder-the-drivers-claims.html

[dewanifacts]

mercury - that is an excellent example of the lies that Tongo told to incriminate Dewani and the many differing versions of events that Tongo gave. To fill you in, Tongo later changed his story on that point and admitted that he was not pre booked and that his first contact with Dewani was at the airport. This was accepted as a common cause fact and is not in dispute.

The article you linked was written less than a month after the murder and refers to the 42 minute plea hearing in which Tongo gave his fabricated story and the court accepted it without any attempts to ascertain its truthfulness. The "pre-booked" example above is but one of many contradictions and lies that were told by Tongo in that controversial hearing in exchange for a vastly reduced sentence (he will likely only serve 9 years behind bars).

That hearing was one of the key points in this saga and the court's willingness to accept Tongo's story without attempting to verify its truthfulness, was ultimately what placed enormous pressure on the South African legal system. Once that story was accepted by one court it placed pressure on other courts to accept it, which is why Qwabe was also given a reduced sentence, Mbolombo was given full immunity, and Mngeni was convicted on the basis of that false story and the lie filled testimony of Qwabe and Mbolmobo.

The fact that such a complicated story that contained so many unlikelihoods and sensational allegations was accepted and rubber stamped in a 42 minute hearing, three and a bit weeks after the murder took place, should set off alarm bells. Would you not agree?

If you are interested, this article on our site examines the trial of Mngeni and details this a bit further so you can understand what type of pressure was placed upon the legal system. 

https://dewanifacts.wordpress.com/2015/08/10/the-trial-of-xolile-mngeni-a-cesspit-of-controversy/

[dewanifacts]

, they drive all the way out there but instead go to some sushi bar for a snack on the pretence of rushing back to an unlit closed shantytown barbeque joint?  Sorry but that just doesn't add up.

That doesn't add up because that isn't what occurred. Somerset West is only 35 minutes drive from their hotel. Its not a long commute to another city. They booked the dinner but then changed their plans, deciding that they weren't hungry enough to eat that type of meal. There was never any pretence of "rushing back to an unlit closed shantytown barbeque joint". There was a discussion between Anni and Tongo about what they were to do next with the result being that Anni expressed a desire to see "the Real Africa". There was never any suggestion of them going back to see the bbq restaurant Mzolis.