Website that analyses the Anni Dewani murder in detail

[Passer-by]

No, however I'm not the one making outlandish claims as to the outcomes of "many" cases. 

I'm glad we cleared that up quickly.

I said "so many cases end like this" - ie, the perpetrator doesn't go to prison.  You, in that faux-teacher styling you pompously adopt, sent me off to prove it and I did:  I found you this chart in a report from The South African Law Commission that shows up how many cases hadn't even gone to Court 2 years later.  I'm still waiting for you to prove your point that Mbolombo's case is somehow special, but you can't substantiate it:  it's just another of your speculations.

So here we go again:  another one of your Nit-Picking Fests as a smoke-screen.

You're ompletely unashamed at posting lewd photos in response to my very relevant and informative posts for the benefit of other readers of this thread:  I said you'd shown your true colours when you played the racism card (such a tired cliché) and you've shown yourself up in all your unpleasant glory even more now.

I wonder what it was about that post showing the proximity of the 'jewelry shop' and hotel to lots of banks that made you completely lose it.

Whatever:  it certainly shows how emotionally involved you are in this case.  Me, I'm just a Passer-by - but you're clearly close to Dewani, or indeed are even Dewani himself.  You have an Agenda.

[dewanifacts]

Who wants me to post photos and maps of my local sandwich shops?

Lets put it to a vote!

[John]

Who wants me to post photos and maps of my local sandwich shops?

Lets put it to a vote!

Apologies if I ask a question which you might have already answered DF but what is your interest in the case?

[dewanifacts]

No need to apologise John. That is detailed on our site.

Our Agenda
About this site

[dewanifacts]

I guess those pages don't say that much about us personally. We are three people who took an interest in the case. We are united in our belief that the police and the courts in South Africa failed Anni, Shrien, the Hindocha family, the Dewani family and moreover they failed the South African people by bungling this case from start to finish.

A miscarriage of justice if ever there was one.

Mngeni got what he deserved and at least Tongo and Qwabe are doing some time in prison but to date, Anni has been cheated of justice. We hope to change that.

[John]

I guess those pages don't say that much about us personally. We are three people who took an interest in the case. We are united in our belief that the police and the courts in South Africa failed Anni, Shrien, the Hindocha family, the Dewani family and moreover they failed the South African people by bungling this case from start to finish.

A miscarriage of justice if ever there was one.

Mngeni got what he deserved and at least Tongo and Qwabe are doing some time in prison but to date, Anni has been cheated of justice. We hope to change that.

Do you think Mngeni was dumped on by Qwabe?   There is some thought that it was Qwabe who fired the fatal shot and not Mngeni who was merely a convenient scape goat?

[dewanifacts]

Its not just "some thought" that it was Qwabe who shot Anni. Judge Traverso made a catagoric determination to that effect based on the forensic evidence. Read from paragraphs 24.1.24  of the judgement. http://www.saflii.org/za/cases/ZAWCHC/2014/188.html

I am speculating but yes I think Qwabe was the smartest and most beguiling of the group - even more so than Tongo. When he realised that he was effectively f**ked, he ratted out his friend and collaborated with Mbolombo to invent the "hitman" story on Thursday 18th November 2010. Both Qwabe and Mbolombo initially admitted to a robbery gone wrong but then changed their stories to incriminate Dewani.

I really do not mean to keep plugging our own site but we have written a few blog posts that explain the sequence and the issues in detail. You need to understand the order in which these guys confessed to understand their motivations and thinking at each stage of the process.

https://dewanifacts.wordpress.com/2015/07/15/anni-dewanis-murder-who-pulled-the-trigger-and-why-it-matters/

https://dewanifacts.wordpress.com/2015/08/03/the-truth-is-in-the-confessions-2/

https://dewanifacts.wordpress.com/2015/08/10/the-trial-of-xolile-mngeni-a-cesspit-of-controversy/

[dewanifacts]

One of the big unknowns (and this will be added to our site now I think about it) is what exactly caused Qwabe to change his story at 5:21pm on the 18th November. Its likely that SAPS played a role. Did a policeman come straight out and say to Qwabe and Mbolombo "you're f**ked but we can show you a way out of this. Help us nail the husband"? 

It is precisely these types of details that SAPS and the NPA do not want aired and that is what would happen if Mbolombo was prosecuted.

At best, SAPS were stupid, blind, negligent and allowed themselves to be played by criminals.

At worst, SAPS wilfully tried to frame an innocent man who also happened to have been a victim of a horrible crime.

I am sure that Passerby and many others think he deserved it because he's gay gay and oh so gay. Speaking of that topic, I wonder if Dewani's email address was one of those compromised in the Ashley Madison hack!   

[John]

One of the big unknowns (and this will be added to our site now I think about it) is what exactly caused Qwabe to change his story at 5:21pm on the 18th November. Its likely that SAPS played a role. Did a policeman come straight out and say to Qwabe and Mbolombo "you're f**ked but we can show you a way out of this. Help us nail the husband"? 

It is precisely these types of details that SAPS and the NPA do not want aired and that is what would happen if Mbolombo was prosecuted.

At best, SAPS were stupid, blind, negligent and allowed themselves to be played by criminals.

At worst, SAPS wilfully tried to frame an innocent man who also happened to have been a victim of a horrible crime.

I am sure that Passerby and many others think he deserved it because he's gay gay and oh so gay. Speaking of that topic, I wonder if Dewani's email address was one of those compromised in the Ashley Madison hack!

Looking at what has happened to Pistorius I wouldn't like to be in Dewani's shoes just yet.

[Passer-by]

Dewanifacts, Dewanifacts, Dewanifacts:  you do yourself no favours.  I think I'm going to reply to this post a lot.

So you never have answered what Dewani was doing for 45 minutes with the Taxi driver a few hours before the murders.  It's a fact recorded on the hotel CCTV.

1). It's also a fact he carried out an illegal currency change.

2). It's also a fact we don't know exactly how much money he got.

3). And it's a fact we don't know what he did with it.

4). It's a fact he could, whilst away from Anni, have nipped round to organise the helicopter trip, but didn't

5). It's a fact he could have given some of it to the taxi driver

6) and it's a fact he was planning to give the Taxi driver more money by leaving it in the Taxi during at the time Anni was murdered.

7).  It's a fact he changed his story about whose idea it was to go to the Township after engaging a PR specialist

8).  It's a fact he changed his story about how he escaped from the car without a scratch on him after engaging a PR specialist

9).  It's a fact he lied by omission about his sexuality over and over again to Anni, her family and his own family

10).  It's a fact he gave the Taxidriver more money in an envelope after the murders

11).  It's a fact he was surfing gay bondage sites on his laptop in the hotel with his grieving father-in-law nearby 3 days after Anni's murder - the same day he angrily corrected the BBC reporter - but claimed to be too traumatised to answer questions about how he got out of the car unscathed.

12).  It's a fact that whilst he has threatened to sue newspapers who ran stories about him being gay - later dropped - and to sue various people in South Africa for causing him to be prosecuted, he has never contributed anything to ensuring Anni's murderers are properly punished.

13).  It's a fact that whilst he needed a private jet with doctors and nurses provided at the expense of South African taxpayers to fly him to the trial, he was well enough to get on a scheduled flight and sip champagne to go home again.

All these facts are too awkward and you have only countered them with speculation and conjecture.

He's as guilty as sin and damned by his own actions.

I can't for the life of me think why the blog isn't called 'Mbolombofacts' or 'Qwabefacts' or 'Tongofacts'.  Meanwhile this thread is about Dewani, so let's remind ourselves of the above facts and not get distracted.

[John]

The finger marks on Anni's lower left leg indicate that she was restrained before her death according to the Judge's report.  That in itself could indicate an attempted rape which went badly wrong when the gun was discharged.  Anyone any views on this?

[Passer-by]

The finger marks on Anni's lower left leg indicate that she was restrained before her death according to the Judge's report.  That in itself could indicate an attempted rape which went badly wrong when the gun was discharged.  Anyone any views on this?

It could just as easily indicate that either if the passengers blocking her into the car - her husband and Tongo - gripped her by the thigh to stop her trying to climb over them and out.  The bottom line is if they had wanted to rape her they could have.  The fact she wasn't raped raised lots of eyebrows amongst the locals - and she was found by waste ground, so they could easily have raped her.  Bruising on the wrists would be more likely.

I'd say they aimed at her head and she 'backed away' and up towards the rear window and it got her in the throat.

[dewanifacts]

I guess that's case closed then. We have the findings of forensic genius, Passer-by.

[Passer-by]

Who wants me to post photos and maps of my local sandwich shops?

Lets put it to a vote!

Er, have you completely lost the plot . . . ?

[John]

It could just as easily indicate that either if the passengers blocking her into the car - her husband and Tongo - gripped her by the thigh to stop her trying to climb over them and out.  The bottom line is if they had wanted to rape her they could have.  The fact she wasn't raped raised lots of eyebrows amongst the locals - and she was found by waste ground, so they could easily have raped her.  Bruising on the wrists would be more likely.

I'd say they aimed at her head and she 'backed away' and up towards the rear window and it got her in the throat.

Strangely too, it was the kitchen gloves worn by Qwabe that had the gunshot residue on them yet he claimed that it was Mngeni who shot Anni?