‘Maddie police were ignored’ Detectives have waited five months for Scotland Yard leads.

[carlymichelle]

Maddie police were ignored’ Detectives have waited five months for Scotland Yard leads
PORTUGUESE detectives tasked with helping Scotland Yard solve the Madeleine McCann mystery have spent the past five months waiting for leads to pursue from their British counterparts.
By James Murray, EXCLUSIVE
PUBLISHED: 00:01, Sun, May 8, 2016

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Detectives tasked Madeleine McCann mystery with have waited five months for Scotland Yard leads

A small team of highly experienced officers at Faro on the Algarve want to resume investigations on the case but have been left frustrated by having nothing to do.

Three senior detectives in Faro are poised to act on any Yard requests but have been left virtually twiddling their thumbs for at least five months, so have started doing other work.

When the Metropolitan Police launched Operation Grange in 2011, senior officers spent months rebuilding strained relations with their counterparts in Portugal.

The Yard has to send a so-called rogatory letter requesting Portuguese officers to make inquiries on their behalf.
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These requests go to a Portuguese prosecuting official who decides whether they are valid or not.

In the past British detectives have been present in interview rooms in Faro when suspects and witnesses have been interviewed.

A well-placed source in Faro said: “The last rogatory letter came through at the end of last year and officers gave it their full and prompt attention. Since then it has been very quiet. The detectives in Faro are enthusiastic to pursue any useful leads but there has been nothing for them to do for months and months.

“Years ago there were problems with the British and Portuguese police but Scotland Yard has smoothed over those issues and there is a good working relationship. The officers in Faro will give priority to requests from Operation Grange.

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Kate and Gerry McCann hold an artist's impression of how Madeleine might look at the age of nine

    The officers in Faro will give priority to requests from Operation Grange

    A well-placed source in Faro

“They realise the Yard’s investigation is slowing down but they want to make it absolutely clear they will help in any way they can as long as the prosecutor approves any further requests.”

Scotland Yard has declined to comment.

Madeleine McCann would be 13 on Thursday.

She disappeared from a holiday apartment in the Algarve resort town of Praia da Luz on May 3, 2007, nine years ago last week.

Her parents, doctors Kate and Gerry McCann, said prayers for her at their home town of Rothley, Leicestershire, to mark the date.

Surrounded by supportive villagers, Gerry, 47, said: “Even after nine years, and we desperately don’t want another one, we have this incredible support and it means so much to us. It makes us stronger and helps us get through it.”

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Madeleine McCann would be 13 on Thursday and she disappeared nine years ago last week

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Three senior detectives in Faro are poised to act on any Yard requests

Kate, 48, read a poem by Emily Dickinson, saying: “Hope is the thing with feathers, that perches on the soul. And sings the tune without words. And never stops – at all.”

Candles were lit for Madeleine by children in the village.

The couple have also posted a message on their Find Madeleine website saying: “As yet another anniversary comes around, we’d like to thank all our supporters for your continued help and commitment in the search for Madeleine, and the hope for her safe return.

“It has been a very long time but the investigation continues, information is still forthcoming and our hope and resolve continue. Until we have answers, until there is news, there will always be hope and we will continue to do everything we can to help find Madeleine.

“The charity Missing People is releasing the single I Hope on May 20 ahead of International Missing Children’s Day. Please support the charity to help all missing children and their families by downloading the song.”

Edited to include link
http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/668155/Madeleine-McCann-police-ignored-Detectives-waited-five-months-Scotland-Yard-leads

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[mercury]

So, people here are saying Portugal police are not helping SY ergo hampering the investigation and this article says theyre willing to but have had no requests for half a year

Well....is a deep hole

[Brietta]

So, people here are saying Portugal police are not helping SY ergo hampering the investigation and this article says theyre willing to but have had no requests for half a year

Well....is a deep hole

They certainly aren't allowing them access to the three defendants whether or not that is the hold-up in the case.

That apart ... is there anyone out there who seriously believes that the independent Portuguese inquiry has officers sitting at a desk eagerly waiting for their latest instruction from London to come through so that they can jump to it?

I don't see it happening ...


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The thesis comes from 2014.

The English police believed that Madeleine McCann had been abducted during a robbery that did not go as expected.

At the time, the Portuguese police constituted three accused men: José Carlos da Silva, 30, Ricardo Rodrigues, 24, and Paulo Ribeiro, 53.
Sources of the English police believe that this thesis deserves to be re investigated, but the Judicial Police considers that there is no evidence to incriminate the three suspects.

It is only known that Scotland Yard has a line of research to explore and to be the line to close the process. It is unknown, however, what this thesis.

According to the argument presented two years ago, one of the suspects worked at the Ocean Club Resort, where the McCann family was installed. The man was responsible for leading customers to the apartments in Praia da Luz. Police believe the suspect worked with the other two suspects. The group has broken into the family's apartment to rob.

When he entered, they will have encountered the girl to sleep and have chosen to take.

The thesis of the British police came after they recorded suspicious telephone conversations between the three men that night. Moreover, it is known that two weeks before the McCann couple and the children arrive at the Ocean Club, two apartments were robbed in the same resort.

At the time, British police sent a letter rogatory to Portugal to ask for information about the three men who were then made defendants.
But there is no evidence that the three defendants are involved in the disappearance of Maddie, by the Portuguese police considers that these three men are not suspects, found the observer to the Judiciary Police sources.
PJ said that even the English police also through a letter rogatory, still knew the Observer.

Earlier this week, the head of the Metropolitan Police told the British radio LBC researchers are following a final theory to the disappearance of Madeleine McCann and that the investigation may be terminated soon.

"There has been much research time waived in this case.
A child disappeared, everyone wants to know if she's alive, and if so, where is she (...) We must follow an investigation together with Portugal and other countries that are involved. There is a line of research that is being followed and is expected to be complete in the coming months, "said Bernard Hogan-Howe. If there is no evidence to Scotland Yard close the case, said the same official.
It remains now to know that thesis is about.
It all started in 2007
Madeleine McCann was three. He was with his parents and brother and sister on holiday in Praia da Luz, in the Algarve. The family had chosen the Ocean Club Resort. The May 3, 2007, parents were dining with friends at a tapas restaurant. Madeleine and the twins brothers were in the apartment. Only the oldest disappeared. Madeleine would four years on 12 May.
The case has happened like this: the couple was having dinner at the tapas bar, inside the Ocean Club. At 21h, the father Gerry McCann have gone to check the children to the apartment and all were well. A friend will come again at 21.30. Around 22pm, the mother Kate McCann have gone to the apartment and have found the oldest daughter's bed empty. The shutters and a window were open. GNR was told soon after. There began long months of searches and investigations.
http://observador.pt/2016/04/29/nova-teoria-madeleine-mccann-tera-sido-raptada-assalto-apartamento-feito-3-portugueses/

[mercury]

They certainly aren't allowing them access to the three defendants whether or not that is the hold-up in the case.

That apart ... is there anyone out there who seriously believes that the independent Portuguese inquiry has officers sitting at a desk eagerly waiting for their latest instruction from London to come through so that they can jump to it?

I don't see it happening ...


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British police source believes in abduction of guilt and points three suspects, an already advanced thesis in 2014. PJ believes that these three men are not suspects. But there is a line of inquiry to ascertain.
     


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The thesis comes from 2014.

The English police believed that Madeleine McCann had been abducted during a robbery that did not go as expected.

At the time, the Portuguese police constituted three accused men: José Carlos da Silva, 30, Ricardo Rodrigues, 24, and Paulo Ribeiro, 53.
Sources of the English police believe that this thesis deserves to be re investigated, but the Judicial Police considers that there is no evidence to incriminate the three suspects.

It is only known that Scotland Yard has a line of research to explore and to be the line to close the process. It is unknown, however, what this thesis.

According to the argument presented two years ago, one of the suspects worked at the Ocean Club Resort, where the McCann family was installed. The man was responsible for leading customers to the apartments in Praia da Luz. Police believe the suspect worked with the other two suspects. The group has broken into the family's apartment to rob.

When he entered, they will have encountered the girl to sleep and have chosen to take.

The thesis of the British police came after they recorded suspicious telephone conversations between the three men that night. Moreover, it is known that two weeks before the McCann couple and the children arrive at the Ocean Club, two apartments were robbed in the same resort.

At the time, British police sent a letter rogatory to Portugal to ask for information about the three men who were then made defendants.
But there is no evidence that the three defendants are involved in the disappearance of Maddie, by the Portuguese police considers that these three men are not suspects, found the observer to the Judiciary Police sources.
PJ said that even the English police also through a letter rogatory, still knew the Observer.

Earlier this week, the head of the Metropolitan Police told the British radio LBC researchers are following a final theory to the disappearance of Madeleine McCann and that the investigation may be terminated soon.

"There has been much research time waived in this case.
A child disappeared, everyone wants to know if she's alive, and if so, where is she (...) We must follow an investigation together with Portugal and other countries that are involved. There is a line of research that is being followed and is expected to be complete in the coming months, "said Bernard Hogan-Howe. If there is no evidence to Scotland Yard close the case, said the same official.
It remains now to know that thesis is about.
It all started in 2007
Madeleine McCann was three. He was with his parents and brother and sister on holiday in Praia da Luz, in the Algarve. The family had chosen the Ocean Club Resort. The May 3, 2007, parents were dining with friends at a tapas restaurant. Madeleine and the twins brothers were in the apartment. Only the oldest disappeared. Madeleine would four years on 12 May.
The case has happened like this: the couple was having dinner at the tapas bar, inside the Ocean Club. At 21h, the father Gerry McCann have gone to check the children to the apartment and all were well. A friend will come again at 21.30. Around 22pm, the mother Kate McCann have gone to the apartment and have found the oldest daughter's bed empty. The shutters and a window were open. GNR was told soon after. There began long months of searches and investigations.
http://observador.pt/2016/04/29/nova-teoria-madeleine-mccann-tera-sido-raptada-assalto-apartamento-feito-3-portugueses/

Well if the PJ are not allowing access to the suspected because of no evidence, then what more is there to say?

[Angelo222]

‘Maddie police were ignored’
Detectives have waited five months for Scotland Yard leads.

PORTUGUESE detectives tasked with helping Scotland Yard solve the Madeleine McCann mystery have spent the past five months waiting for leads to pursue from their British counterparts.

Sunday Express
By James Murray
Sun, May 8, 2016


A small team of highly experienced officers at Faro on the Algarve want to resume investigations on the case but have been left frustrated by having nothing to do.

Three senior detectives in Faro are poised to act on any Yard requests but have been left virtually twiddling their thumbs for at least five months, so have started doing other work.

When the Metropolitan Police launched Operation Grange in 2011, senior officers spent months rebuilding strained relations with their counterparts in Portugal.

The Yard has to send a so-called rogatory letter requesting Portuguese officers to make inquiries on their behalf.

These requests go to a Portuguese prosecuting official who decides whether they are valid or not.

In the past British detectives have been present in interview rooms in Faro when suspects and witnesses have been interviewed.

A well-placed source in Faro said: “The last rogatory letter came through at the end of last year and officers gave it their full and prompt attention. Since then it has been very quiet. The detectives in Faro are enthusiastic to pursue any useful leads but there has been nothing for them to do for months and months.

“Years ago there were problems with the British and Portuguese police but Scotland Yard has smoothed over those issues and there is a good working relationship. The officers in Faro will give priority to requests from Operation Grange.

“They realise the Yard’s investigation is slowing down but they want to make it absolutely clear they will help in any way they can as long as the prosecutor approves any further requests.”

Scotland Yard has declined to comment.


http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/668155/Madeleine-McCann-police-ignored-Detectives-waited-five-months-Scotland-Yard-leads

[G-Unit]

So, people here are saying Portugal police are not helping SY ergo hampering the investigation and this article says theyre willing to but have had no requests for half a year

Well....is a deep hole

What is clear is that criticism from the UK media is being noted and replied to. Portugal doesn't seem to be prepared to be lambasted by any Brits any more. Good for them.

[Mr Gray]

What is clear is that criticism from the UK media is being noted and replied to. Portugal doesn't seem to be prepared to be lambasted by any Brits any more. Good for them.

good for them that they are stopping SY from investigating Maddie;s disappearance....that is very unfair on maddie but your opinion doesn't surprise me

[Carana]

They certainly aren't allowing them access to the three defendants whether or not that is the hold-up in the case.

That apart ... is there anyone out there who seriously believes that the independent Portuguese inquiry has officers sitting at a desk eagerly waiting for their latest instruction from London to come through so that they can jump to it?

I don't see it happening ...


POLICE
Maddie McCann case. Police about to close investigation. There remains one line of inquiry
04/29/2016, 14:16  542 SHARES

British police source believes in abduction of guilt and points three suspects, an already advanced thesis in 2014. PJ believes that these three men are not suspects. But there is a line of inquiry to ascertain.
     


authors
 Luis Rosa  LuisRos04577928  Facebook  Email
 Catarina Marques Rodrigues  CatarinMR  Email

More about
CRIME POLICE SAFETY SOCIETY

The thesis comes from 2014.

The English police believed that Madeleine McCann had been abducted during a robbery that did not go as expected.

At the time, the Portuguese police constituted three accused men: José Carlos da Silva, 30, Ricardo Rodrigues, 24, and Paulo Ribeiro, 53.
Sources of the English police believe that this thesis deserves to be re investigated, but the Judicial Police considers that there is no evidence to incriminate the three suspects.

It is only known that Scotland Yard has a line of research to explore and to be the line to close the process. It is unknown, however, what this thesis.

According to the argument presented two years ago, one of the suspects worked at the Ocean Club Resort, where the McCann family was installed. The man was responsible for leading customers to the apartments in Praia da Luz. Police believe the suspect worked with the other two suspects. The group has broken into the family's apartment to rob.

When he entered, they will have encountered the girl to sleep and have chosen to take.

The thesis of the British police came after they recorded suspicious telephone conversations between the three men that night. Moreover, it is known that two weeks before the McCann couple and the children arrive at the Ocean Club, two apartments were robbed in the same resort.

At the time, British police sent a letter rogatory to Portugal to ask for information about the three men who were then made defendants.
But there is no evidence that the three defendants are involved in the disappearance of Maddie, by the Portuguese police considers that these three men are not suspects, found the observer to the Judiciary Police sources.
PJ said that even the English police also through a letter rogatory, still knew the Observer.

Earlier this week, the head of the Metropolitan Police told the British radio LBC researchers are following a final theory to the disappearance of Madeleine McCann and that the investigation may be terminated soon.

"There has been much research time waived in this case.
A child disappeared, everyone wants to know if she's alive, and if so, where is she (...) We must follow an investigation together with Portugal and other countries that are involved. There is a line of research that is being followed and is expected to be complete in the coming months, "said Bernard Hogan-Howe. If there is no evidence to Scotland Yard close the case, said the same official.
It remains now to know that thesis is about.
It all started in 2007
Madeleine McCann was three. He was with his parents and brother and sister on holiday in Praia da Luz, in the Algarve. The family had chosen the Ocean Club Resort. The May 3, 2007, parents were dining with friends at a tapas restaurant. Madeleine and the twins brothers were in the apartment. Only the oldest disappeared. Madeleine would four years on 12 May.
The case has happened like this: the couple was having dinner at the tapas bar, inside the Ocean Club. At 21h, the father Gerry McCann have gone to check the children to the apartment and all were well. A friend will come again at 21.30. Around 22pm, the mother Kate McCann have gone to the apartment and have found the oldest daughter's bed empty. The shutters and a window were open. GNR was told soon after. There began long months of searches and investigations.
http://observador.pt/2016/04/29/nova-teoria-madeleine-mccann-tera-sido-raptada-assalto-apartamento-feito-3-portugueses/

That must be one of the few "sober" (as opposed to sensationalist) articles that I can recall coming out of Portugal.

[John]

‘Maddie police were ignored’
Detectives have waited five months for Scotland Yard leads.

PORTUGUESE detectives tasked with helping Scotland Yard solve the Madeleine McCann mystery have spent the past five months waiting for leads to pursue from their British counterparts.

Sunday Express
By James Murray
Sun, May 8, 2016


A small team of highly experienced officers at Faro on the Algarve want to resume investigations on the case but have been left frustrated by having nothing to do.

Three senior detectives in Faro are poised to act on any Yard requests but have been left virtually twiddling their thumbs for at least five months, so have started doing other work.

When the Metropolitan Police launched Operation Grange in 2011, senior officers spent months rebuilding strained relations with their counterparts in Portugal.

The Yard has to send a so-called rogatory letter requesting Portuguese officers to make inquiries on their behalf.

These requests go to a Portuguese prosecuting official who decides whether they are valid or not.

In the past British detectives have been present in interview rooms in Faro when suspects and witnesses have been interviewed.

A well-placed source in Faro said: “The last rogatory letter came through at the end of last year and officers gave it their full and prompt attention. Since then it has been very quiet. The detectives in Faro are enthusiastic to pursue any useful leads but there has been nothing for them to do for months and months.

“Years ago there were problems with the British and Portuguese police but Scotland Yard has smoothed over those issues and there is a good working relationship. The officers in Faro will give priority to requests from Operation Grange.

“They realise the Yard’s investigation is slowing down but they want to make it absolutely clear they will help in any way they can as long as the prosecutor approves any further requests.”

Scotland Yard has declined to comment.


http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/668155/Madeleine-McCann-police-ignored-Detectives-waited-five-months-Scotland-Yard-leads

Looks like the trail, if there ever was one, has gone stone cold?

[Mr Gray]

Looks like the trail, if there ever was one, has gone stone cold?

If you read the article critically it   could well mean that the ILOR has been turned down ...which I think we all realise.......and this is the one remaing lead...what do SY do know.....they want to reinterview these three but the portuguese won't let them

[Carana]

Looks like the trail, if there ever was one, has gone stone cold?

I'm not convinced that the remaining active line is the three men (They could be on a backburner if they can't be formally eliminated, or perhaps they have been.)

The unnamed lead that the Met and PJ seem to both find worthwhile pursuing is likely to be Smellyman, I would have thought. I haven't found any news about him, so I presume he hasn't been identified yet (for the assault cases even if it turns out that there is no connection to Madeleine).

[Carana]

If you read the article critically it   could well mean that the ILOR has been turned down ...which I think we all realise.......and this is the one remaing lead...what do SY do know.....they want to reinterview these three but the portuguese won't let them

As there are fewer leaks, we don't actually know what's going on.

I don't see why an ILOR related to them would have been turned down (if ever there is one outstanding concerning them - they've already been interviewed, from memory).

My bet is still on Smellyman as the active lead (assuming he's not one of the three).

[Mr Gray]

the article says...

A well-placed source in Faro said: “The last rogatory letter came through at the end of last year and officers gave it their full and prompt attention.

doesn't say if it was approved and on what date the decision was given.....my understanding is it was refused and there is now an impasse...will SY walk away or will...can they appeal against the refusal...will political pressure be applied. I certainly hope SY will be allowed by the portuguese to finish their investigations. it's a shame some on here are glad to see them frustrated

[G-Unit]

good for them that they are stopping SY from investigating Maddie;s disappearance....that is very unfair on maddie but your opinion doesn't surprise me

Have you enjoyed seeing a whole country being criticised for nine years? I haven't, I have found it disgraceful.

Now the media are suggesting that the Portuguese are blocking OG's inquiry. Good for them for replying and pointing out that they are ready and waiting but haven't received any requests from OG.

Why should they take these smears any more? It is very unfair of our media to try again to damage the relationship with the PJ which SY worked hard to repair.

[Mr Gray]

Have you enjoyed seeing a whole country being criticised for nine years? I haven't, I have found it disgraceful.

Now the media are suggesting that the Portuguese are blocking OG's inquiry. Good for them for replying and pointing out that they are ready and waiting but haven't received any requests from OG.

Why should they take these smears any more? It is very unfair of our media to try again to damage the relationship with the PJ which SY worked hard to repair.

I haven't seen a whole country criticised for 9 years and neither have you...there has been criticism of the police and the judicial system that has been wholly justified...the portugues judicial system is blocking the enquiry...an absolute disgrace