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Offline pathfinder73

Re: Why was Yvonne Martin's offer of help dismissed so readily?
« Reply #165 on: November 16, 2018, 07:59:04 PM »
Yes.  She asked if Gerry was Madeleine's father.  Blimmin cheek.

Pamela Fenn didn't know it was Gerry's daughter that was missing. The McCanns are very strange folk!

"She found it strange that Gerry when said that a girl had been abducted, he did not mention that it was his daughter and that he did not mention any other scenarios." http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/PAMELA_FENN.htm

Smithman carrying a child in his arms checked his watch after passing the Smith family and the time was 10:03. Both are still unidentified 10 years later.

Offline Erngath

Re: Why was Yvonne Martin's offer of help dismissed so readily?
« Reply #166 on: November 16, 2018, 11:02:23 PM »
Pamela Fenn didn't know it was Gerry's daughter that was missing. The McCanns are very strange folk!

"She found it strange that Gerry when said that a girl had been abducted, he did not mention that it was his daughter and that he did not mention any other scenarios." http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/PAMELA_FENN.htm

"The McCanns are very strange folk"
Whose quote is that?

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Offline Robittybob1

Re: Why was Yvonne Martin's offer of help dismissed so readily?
« Reply #167 on: November 17, 2018, 03:31:58 AM »
"The McCanns are very strange folk"
Whose quote is that?
It might be Yvonne Martin.  She would have been wondering why they didn't want her help.
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Offline Erngath

Re: Why was Yvonne Martin's offer of help dismissed so readily?
« Reply #168 on: November 17, 2018, 09:02:43 AM »
It might be Yvonne Martin.  She would have been wondering why they didn't want her help.

To whom did she say that?

Or is the statement that the McCanns are very strange folk an opinion of Pathfinder. If so then he/she should say so.
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Offline Sunny

Re: Why was Yvonne Martin's offer of help dismissed so readily?
« Reply #169 on: November 17, 2018, 11:02:32 AM »
It might be Yvonne Martin.  She would have been wondering why they didn't want her help.

I am still wondering why they didn't want her help, Rob.
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Offline Erngath

Re: Why was Yvonne Martin's offer of help dismissed so readily?
« Reply #170 on: November 17, 2018, 11:11:00 AM »
I am still wondering why they didn't want her help, Rob.

I am still wondering what she could have done to help?
Did she speak Portuguese?
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Offline Sunny

Re: Why was Yvonne Martin's offer of help dismissed so readily?
« Reply #171 on: November 17, 2018, 11:14:54 AM »
I am still wondering what she could have done to help?
Did she speak Portuguese?

Did that matter, she spoke English and that was all that was necessary for her to help IMO.
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Offline Erngath

Re: Why was Yvonne Martin's offer of help dismissed so readily?
« Reply #172 on: November 17, 2018, 11:17:29 AM »
Did that matter, she spoke English and that was all that was necessary for her to help IMO.

Really?
You don't believe that not speaking Portuguese would have made any help she could offer limited?
What was the help she could offer?
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Offline Eleanor

Re: Why was Yvonne Martin's offer of help dismissed so readily?
« Reply #173 on: November 17, 2018, 11:31:22 AM »
Did that matter, she spoke English and that was all that was necessary for her to help IMO.

What do you think Yvonne Martin could have done?

Offline pathfinder73

Re: Why was Yvonne Martin's offer of help dismissed so readily?
« Reply #174 on: November 17, 2018, 12:36:58 PM »
To whom did she say that?

Or is the statement that the McCanns are very strange folk an opinion of Pathfinder. If so then he/she should say so.

It is mine! Couldn't even say it was his daughter that went missing. That's either distancing behaviour from the truth or very strange folk? Take your pick. The first officers on the scene questioned their mad praying no tears behaviour!

FB: And you can never have imagined, 10 years ago, that you would still be in this situation?

GM: I think the situation is that we tried everything in our power to not have a long protracted missing person case like this. (Kate and Gerry McCann Ten Year Interview)

1.  "Case": "Note next he does not say "Madeleine is missing" but de-personalizes Madeleine into a "case."  This is not expected by a biological father, no matter how much time has passed.  It is, however, expected by a biological father who has processed his daughter's death.  This allows the brain some protection by distancing, via depersonalization, what happened.  It is the language of parents who have lost children, for example, to illness. It helps to refer to them as a "case."

http://statement-analysis.blogspot.com/2017/05/kate-and-gerry-mccann-ten-year-interview.html
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Smithman carrying a child in his arms checked his watch after passing the Smith family and the time was 10:03. Both are still unidentified 10 years later.

Offline Alice Purjorick

Re: Why was Yvonne Martin's offer of help dismissed so readily?
« Reply #175 on: November 17, 2018, 12:44:09 PM »
Oh well nailing my colours to the mast; the last thing I would want is the STASI bobbing up, like a KellyDoll, on mi doorstep while I am on holiday.

Thought for the day. How did she beam up so bleedin' fast ?
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Offline jassi

Re: Why was Yvonne Martin's offer of help dismissed so readily?
« Reply #176 on: November 17, 2018, 12:53:47 PM »
I don't have any problem with her going to PDL, but wonder why she felt the need to bother.
She was on holiday and a fair distance away, so why not leave matters to those on the spot?
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I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
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Offline Alice Purjorick

Re: Why was Yvonne Martin's offer of help dismissed so readily?
« Reply #177 on: November 17, 2018, 01:32:27 PM »
I don't have any problem with her going to PDL, but wonder why she felt the need to bother.
She was on holiday and a fair distance away, so why not leave matters to those on the spot?

We could start a good hare running here.....or sniff sniff, a Siberian Hamster  8(0(*
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Offline Sunny

Re: Why was Yvonne Martin's offer of help dismissed so readily?
« Reply #178 on: November 17, 2018, 01:39:29 PM »
What do you think Yvonne Martin could have done?

I have already given two cites on this thread showing how she could have helped.
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Offline Erngath

Re: Why was Yvonne Martin's offer of help dismissed so readily?
« Reply #179 on: November 17, 2018, 02:09:56 PM »
I have already given two cites on this thread showing how she could have helped.

I can remember you saying she could have provided comfort to them but they already had a group of friends, some close friends, who were quite capable of doing that?
What was the other cite?


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