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Alfred R Jones

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Re: Revealed - £100k stolen from Madeleine Fund by man close to the search.
« Reply #225 on: November 01, 2015, 06:26:22 PM »

Not quite Alfie. Our beliefs and theories are constructed mainly with reference to the behaviour of the McCanns and their associates since Madeleine's disappearance. If we are not allowed to question those, in their absence, why are any of us here ?
I'm here to question you, as you are the only person who can explain your own beliefs and theories.  I don't go on another website to discuss you behind your back, put 2 and 2 together to come up with 15, as you seem to be intent on doing with the McCanns.  For example, here you have a one-sided, incomplete anecdote about whistleblowers apparently passing on infromation to a Fund Director.  you are asking questions here that none of us can answer, we don't know what actually went on behind the scenes, what these individuals are all about, anything.  There may have have been perfectly, good logical reasons why seemingly nothing happened as a result of this information being passed on but is there any point speculating either way?  It might be an amusing diversion for you, but it is ultimately pointless, as you don't have and are highly unlikely ever to have all the facts at your disposal.

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Re: Revealed - £100k stolen from Madeleine Fund by man close to the search.
« Reply #226 on: November 01, 2015, 06:33:27 PM »
I'm here to question you, as you are the only person who can explain your own beliefs and theories.  I don't go on another website to discuss you behind your back, put 2 and 2 together to come up with 15, as you seem to be intent on doing with the McCanns.  For example, here you have a one-sided, incomplete anecdote about whistleblowers apparently passing on infromation to a Fund Director.  you are asking questions here that none of us can answer, we don't know what actually went on behind the scenes, what these individuals are all about, anything.  There may have have been perfectly, good logical reasons why seemingly nothing happened as a result of this information being passed on but is there any point speculating either way?  It might be an amusing diversion for you, but it is ultimately pointless, as you don't have and are highly unlikely ever to have all the facts at your disposal.

Well that shoves the old Misericorde into this forum's eye socket then.
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Re: Revealed - £100k stolen from Madeleine Fund by man close to the search.
« Reply #227 on: November 01, 2015, 06:33:42 PM »
I'm here to question you, as you are the only person who can explain your own beliefs and theories.  I don't go on another website to discuss you behind your back, put 2 and 2 together to come up with 15, as you seem to be intent on doing with the McCanns.  For example, here you have a one-sided, incomplete anecdote about whistleblowers apparently passing on infromation to a Fund Director.  you are asking questions here that none of us can answer, we don't know what actually went on behind the scenes, what these individuals are all about, anything.  There may have have been perfectly, good logical reasons why seemingly nothing happened as a result of this information being passed on but is there any point speculating either way?  It might be an amusing diversion for you, but it is ultimately pointless, as you don't have and are highly unlikely ever to have all the facts at your disposal.

How can asking questions on a public forum be considered ' asking questions behind someone's back' ? The McCanns, if they wish, can read every word I and every member of this forum posts and, if they wish, answer them. That they choose not to should not impede the right of every member to ask those questions anyway.
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Re: Revealed - £100k stolen from Madeleine Fund by man close to the search.
« Reply #228 on: November 01, 2015, 07:51:25 PM »
How can asking questions on a public forum be considered ' asking questions behind someone's back' ? The McCanns, if they wish, can read every word I and every member of this forum posts and, if they wish, answer them. That they choose not to should not impede the right of every member to ask those questions anyway.

Thank goodness we can. Everyone else has been silenced.
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Re: Revealed - £100k stolen from Madeleine Fund by man close to the search.
« Reply #229 on: November 01, 2015, 08:47:47 PM »
How can asking questions on a public forum be considered ' asking questions behind someone's back' ? The McCanns, if they wish, can read every word I and every member of this forum posts and, if they wish, answer them. That they choose not to should not impede the right of every member to ask those questions anyway.
Who s denying you your rights, fgs?? Carry on asking you pointless, pointed questions if it brings you joy and happiness, you will of course do as you please regardless of anything I have to say anyway.

Alfred R Jones

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Re: Revealed - £100k stolen from Madeleine Fund by man close to the search.
« Reply #230 on: November 01, 2015, 08:48:39 PM »
Thank goodness we can. Everyone else has been silenced.
everyone else has been silenced?? Seriously?!

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Revealed - £100k stolen from Madeleine Fund by man close to the search.
« Reply #231 on: November 01, 2015, 09:19:01 PM »
Plenty of questions asked on here but posters seem unwilling to answer any

Offline G-Unit

Re: Revealed - £100k stolen from Madeleine Fund by man close to the search.
« Reply #232 on: November 01, 2015, 09:30:14 PM »
everyone else has been silenced?? Seriously?!
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Carter Ruck m'dear. The only person who asked searching questions was Sandra Felgueiras. Not that she got any sensible answers.
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Offline mercury

Re: Revealed - £100k stolen from Madeleine Fund by man close to the search.
« Reply #233 on: November 01, 2015, 10:25:40 PM »
What are Madeleine book sales to date?

12 May 2011 - Release date - Madeleine's birthday

2 May 2012 - Kate McCann's book about her daughter Madeleine's disappearance has sold nearly 400,000 copies.

http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2012/05/02/madeleine-mccann-kate-mccann-book-disappear-raise-1m_n_1470227.html

How much is that in pounds? Even if each book sold for a fiver which it did not thats at least 2m PLUS the SUN paid them half a million for their serialisation, (fact given by rebekah brrokes in that judicial review thingy, kind of brings up the total recieved in the fund by quite  a much?

their accounts are unclear and do not mention the 550 + 375k recieved in july 2008

their fund receipts should be well above the 5m considering the host of  payments too from 2007 to 2014




Offline pathfinder73

Re: Revealed - £100k stolen from Madeleine Fund by man close to the search.
« Reply #234 on: November 01, 2015, 10:39:02 PM »
How much is that in pounds? Even if each book sold for a fiver which it did not thats at least 2m PLUS the SUN paid them half a million for their serialisation, (fact given by rebekah brrokes in that judicial review thingy, kind of brings up the total recieved in the fund by quite  a much?

their accounts are unclear and do not mention the 550 + 375k recieved in july 2008

their fund receipts should be well above the 5m considering the host of  payments too from 2007 to 2014

£20 book price. x 400,000 first year sales = 8 million


Madeleine McCann's parents have signed a multi-million pound book deal to write about their daughter's disappearance.
By Ryan Kisiel
Last updated at 9:09 AM on 15th November 2010

McCanns sign deal for Madeleine book Yorkshire Post

Source: The Press Association
Published Date: 14 November 2010, 9:27 PM

Kate and Gerry McCann have signed a deal to write a book about the disappearance of their daughter Madeleine, their publishers announced yesterday.

After a major bidding war, Transworld won the rights to the couple's account of how the little girl vanished on a family holiday to Portugal in 2007 and their efforts to find her.

All proceeds from the book will go to the McCanns' official fund to look for Madeleine, which had been in danger of running out next year.

Precise details of the publishing deal have not been released, but a source said it included a "substantial" advance and "enhanced royalties" giving the couple a bigger share of profits from sales.

The book, simply entitled Madeleine, will be published on April 28 next year to coincide with the fourth anniversary of the child's disappearance.

Mrs McCann, 42, said: "My reason for writing is simple – to give an account of the truth. Publishing this book has been a very difficult decision and is one that we have taken after much deliberation and with a very heavy heart.

However, in the last few months, with the depletion of Madeleine's Fund, it is a decision that has virtually been taken out of our hands.

"Every penny we raise through its sales will be spent on our search for Madeleine. Nothing is more important to us than finding our little girl."

Her husband, also 42, added: "We are hopeful that this book may help the investigation to find Madeleine in other ways too.

"Our hope is that it may prompt those who have relevant information – knowingly or not – to come forward and share it with our team. Somebody holds that key piece of the jigsaw."

Transworld has acquired the rights to publish the book –which is being written by the McCanns themselves – in the UK, the Commonwealth and Europe.

The west London-based publisher is home to best-selling authors including The Da Vinci Code writer Dan Brown, fantasy novelist Terry Pratchett and theoretical physicist Stephen Hawking.

A source said the McCanns' book, which will have a recommended retail price of £20, was expected to be a big seller.

Transworld publisher Bill Scott-Kerr said: "It is an enormous privilege to be publishing this book.

"We are so pleased to be joining Kate and Gerry McCann in the Find Madeleine campaign."

Deals for newspaper serialisations and translations of the book are now expected to be negotiated.

The McCanns, from Rothley, Leicestershire, are fighting a legal battle against former Portuguese detective Goncalo Amaral over his book alleging that Madeleine died in the apartment and that her parents faked her abduction - something they strongly deny.

The appeal court in Lisbon last month overturned an injunction obtained by the couple banning publication of Mr Amaral's work, Maddie: The Truth Of The Lie.

But a source close to the McCanns said their decision to write their own book had nothing to do with rebutting Mr Amaral's allegations.

"It certainly hasn't been prompted by him," the source said.

Madeleine was nearly four when she vanished from her family's holiday apartment in Praia da Luz in the Algarve on May 3, 2007, as her parents dined with friends nearby.

Despite a massive police investigation and huge publicity worldwide, she has not been found.

The official Portuguese inquiry into Madeleine's disappearance was formally shelved in July 2008, although private detectives employed by the McCanns have continued the search.
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Smithman carrying a child in his arms checked his watch after passing the Smith family and the time was 10:03. Both are still unidentified 10 years later.

Offline mercury

Re: Revealed - £100k stolen from Madeleine Fund by man close to the search.
« Reply #235 on: November 01, 2015, 11:14:20 PM »
Like i said in the other thread there is no way the funds tally sigh what has gone in...and probably not out either and thats WITHOUT transparent accounts

4m is a very conservative estimate...unless some of the monies gained were not put in the FUND
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Offline mercury

Re: Revealed - £100k stolen from Madeleine Fund by man close to the search.
« Reply #236 on: November 01, 2015, 11:56:18 PM »
Why has the subject of Metado3 allegedly ripping off the Fund once again been been turned into what the McCanns may have gained from the Fund/Madeleine's disappearance?

because like attracts like they say

do you REALLY think the mccanns with ther multi hundred thousand pounds lawyers and advisers from day ONE would let them be ripped off to the tune of millions? Get real!!!

Even the mccanns on their own would have had the nous to NOT be ripped off....the more people that call them naive the more those  people are naive at best if not  jokers

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Offline pegasus

Re: Revealed - £100k stolen from Madeleine Fund by man close to the search.
« Reply #237 on: November 02, 2015, 01:33:28 AM »
What peeps don't realise is that after the initial 6 months, the contract was actually renewed ,

Offline misty

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« Reply #238 on: November 02, 2015, 02:04:48 AM »
"M3 worked very hard for us and, just for the record, their fees were very low; most of the money they were paid was for verified expenses. Although we went on to employ new teams we maintain good relations with M3 today".

Madeleine, (Hardback 2011) page 283.


Offline G-Unit

Re: Revealed - £100k stolen from Madeleine Fund by man close to the search.
« Reply #239 on: November 02, 2015, 07:39:54 AM »
"M3 worked very hard for us and, just for the record, their fees were very low; most of the money they were paid was for verified expenses. Although we went on to employ new teams we maintain good relations with M3 today".

Madeleine, (Hardback 2011) page 283.

No worries then. All the expenses paid to Metodo 3 were correct, accurate and justified. Kate McCann says so.

I wonder, though, if you get an invoice for expenses for 40 investigators and there were really only 4, how do you check that? You would need to know the names of the people incurring the expenses and you would need copies of receipts showing those names. Flights, hotels, mobile telephone bills and car hire companies show names. So would copies of wage records or, if the guys were self-employed, invoices for time spent on the case. If the Fund has copies of such information that would be the bulk of the costs claimed I would think. Other costs such as fuel and meals would be the smaller items.
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