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Offline Alice Purjorick

Re: Is This Case Unprecedented in the Annals of Crime Detection ?
« Reply #15 on: December 19, 2015, 08:04:48 PM »
So have over 30 officers been working on the cases mentioned above for over four years at a cost to the tax payer of over 10 million pounds because if not then that this case is unprecedented is self-evident ?

Sarah Payne....costs £250k
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/1703534.stm
Claudia Lawrence....costs £400k
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/1703534.stm

Maybe someone can find something on the costs of the searches for Millie Dowler and Suzy Lamplugh?
A woman named Shirley Banks was murdered in the late 1980s. 140,000 manhours was spent on her case but that was from start to conviction.
So with £10MM and not much further forward* than 8 years ago I guess we are approaching unprecedented.
* well if you exclude the greasing of Tannerman the Abductor  8(0(*

"Navigating the difference between weird but normal grief and truly suspicious behaviour is the key for any detective worth his salt.". ….Sarah Bailey

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Is This Case Unprecedented in the Annals of Crime Detection ?
« Reply #16 on: December 19, 2015, 08:05:56 PM »
the case is unprecedented....the end

Alfred R Jones

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Re: Is This Case Unprecedented in the Annals of Crime Detection ?
« Reply #17 on: December 19, 2015, 08:07:13 PM »
Sarah Payne....costs £250k
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/1703534.stm
Claudia Lawrence....costs £400k
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/1703534.stm

Maybe someone can find something on the costs of the searches for Millie Dowler and Suzy Lamplugh?
A woman named Shirley Banks was murdered in the late 1980s. 140,000 manhours was spent on her case but that was from start to conviction.
So with £10MM and not much further forward* than 8 years ago I guess we are approaching unprecedented.
* well if you exclude the greasing of Tannerman the Abductor  8(0(*
The hunt for April Jones' body was the largest in UK police history, so would you class that as unprecedented?

Alfred R Jones

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Re: Is This Case Unprecedented in the Annals of Crime Detection ?
« Reply #18 on: December 19, 2015, 08:10:09 PM »
Sarah Payne....costs £250k
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/1703534.stm
Claudia Lawrence....costs £400k
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/1703534.stm

Maybe someone can find something on the costs of the searches for Millie Dowler and Suzy Lamplugh?
A woman named Shirley Banks was murdered in the late 1980s. 140,000 manhours was spent on her case but that was from start to conviction.
So with £10MM and not much further forward* than 8 years ago I guess we are approaching unprecedented.
* well if you exclude the greasing of Tannerman the Abductor  8(0(*
Sarah Payne was missing for 3 weeks until her body was found, her killer brought to justice within 18 months of her death - is this case a valid comparison? 

Alfred R Jones

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Re: Is This Case Unprecedented in the Annals of Crime Detection ?
« Reply #19 on: December 19, 2015, 08:22:03 PM »
Sarah Payne....costs £250k
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/1703534.stm
Claudia Lawrence....costs £400k
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/1703534.stm

Maybe someone can find something on the costs of the searches for Millie Dowler and Suzy Lamplugh?
A woman named Shirley Banks was murdered in the late 1980s. 140,000 manhours was spent on her case but that was from start to conviction.
So with £10MM and not much further forward* than 8 years ago I guess we are approaching unprecedented.
* well if you exclude the greasing of Tannerman the Abductor  8(0(*
You didn't post the correct link for the Claudia Larence case.  The case review on its own cost £400k, the actual investigation will obviously have cost much more over the years http://www.yorkpress.co.uk/news/12960599.Review_of_Claudia_Lawrence_case_has_cost_almost___400_000/

Offline Alice Purjorick

Re: Is This Case Unprecedented in the Annals of Crime Detection ?
« Reply #20 on: December 19, 2015, 09:15:54 PM »
@Alf :
You are one life's "wait and see-ers".
If you think what I have posted is not valid or crap post what you believe to be correct including values.
"Navigating the difference between weird but normal grief and truly suspicious behaviour is the key for any detective worth his salt.". ….Sarah Bailey

Alfred R Jones

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Re: Is This Case Unprecedented in the Annals of Crime Detection ?
« Reply #21 on: December 19, 2015, 09:22:54 PM »
@Alf :
You are one life's "wait and see-ers".
If you think what I have posted is not valid or crap post what you believe to be correct including values.
I believe my observations are correct, it's up to you to tell me why they are not, and we'll take it from there.

Offline Alice Purjorick

Re: Is This Case Unprecedented in the Annals of Crime Detection ?
« Reply #22 on: December 19, 2015, 10:39:10 PM »
I believe my observations are correct, it's up to you to tell me why they are not, and we'll take it from there.

Do you believe that the costs associated with the Claudia Lawrence case exceed £10MM, if so what evidence do you have of same?
"Navigating the difference between weird but normal grief and truly suspicious behaviour is the key for any detective worth his salt.". ….Sarah Bailey

Alfred R Jones

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Re: Is This Case Unprecedented in the Annals of Crime Detection ?
« Reply #23 on: December 19, 2015, 10:40:19 PM »
Faithlilly and all critics of the Met and the length and cost of Operation Grange, have a read of this and let us have your thoughts. 


http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/jan/08/-sp-the-murder-that-has-obsessed-italy

Alfred R Jones

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Re: Is This Case Unprecedented in the Annals of Crime Detection ?
« Reply #24 on: December 19, 2015, 10:43:12 PM »
Do you believe that the costs associated with the Claudia Lawrence case exceed £10MM, if so what evidence do you have of same?
No, I shouldn't think so, nor have I suggested they have, if you re-read my posts carefully I'm sure you will realise this.

Offline Alice Purjorick

Re: Is This Case Unprecedented in the Annals of Crime Detection ?
« Reply #25 on: December 19, 2015, 10:49:02 PM »
Faithlilly and all critics of the Met and the length and cost of Operation Grange, have a read of this and let us have your thoughts. 


http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/jan/08/-sp-the-murder-that-has-obsessed-italy

Apart from the obvious difference between the Italian investigation and Operation Grange you mean?
"Navigating the difference between weird but normal grief and truly suspicious behaviour is the key for any detective worth his salt.". ….Sarah Bailey

Alfred R Jones

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Re: Is This Case Unprecedented in the Annals of Crime Detection ?
« Reply #26 on: December 19, 2015, 11:11:35 PM »
Apart from the obvious difference between the Italian investigation and Operation Grange you mean?
What obvious difference?

Offline Alice Purjorick

Re: Is This Case Unprecedented in the Annals of Crime Detection ?
« Reply #27 on: December 19, 2015, 11:33:39 PM »
No, I shouldn't think so, nor have I suggested they have, if you re-read my posts carefully I'm sure you will realise this.

That's what I thought, so why did you raise the Claudia Lawrence case on this thread?
"Navigating the difference between weird but normal grief and truly suspicious behaviour is the key for any detective worth his salt.". ….Sarah Bailey

Offline Alice Purjorick

Re: Is This Case Unprecedented in the Annals of Crime Detection ?
« Reply #28 on: December 19, 2015, 11:37:00 PM »
What obvious difference?

The Italian police, whichever branch, are responsible for investigating crimes on Italian soil.
The Met have no authority to investigate a crime committed in Portugal.
"Navigating the difference between weird but normal grief and truly suspicious behaviour is the key for any detective worth his salt.". ….Sarah Bailey

Alfred R Jones

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Re: Is This Case Unprecedented in the Annals of Crime Detection ?
« Reply #29 on: December 19, 2015, 11:41:44 PM »
That's what I thought, so why did you raise the Claudia Lawrence case on this thread?
I have already explained why.  Large amounts of money have been spent on many different criminal investigations that have not shown results (yet).  If this is simply a pissing competition in which "my case example cost more than your case example" then fine - I've already conceded that the McCann case may well be the most expensive so far, but it is hardly unprecedented as there are numerous cases worldwide that have had huge amounts of time, money and resources spent on them resulting in no conviction to date, a better example perhaps is the Italian case I have just posted a link to.