UK Justice System in turmoil over Crown failure to make disclosure.

[Mr Gray]

The whole of the uk justice system has not just learnt that they should not ignore evidence that does not fit it's narrative... That is, a basic concept

what I see is a continual criticism of the uk justice system and police simply because they do not fit the narrative of the sceptics...imo

[Robittybob1]

The whole of the uk justice system has not just learnt that they should not ignore evidence that does not fit it's narrative... That is, a basic concept

well I don't know what is happening over there.

[Mr Gray]

well I don't know what is happening over there.

Thats why I asled slarti for a cite and not you

[slartibartfast]

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/police-crown-prosecution-service-disclosure-lawyers-trial-a7846021.html

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-42841346

https://news.sky.com/story/every-rape-case-to-be-urgently-reviewed-over-evidence-disclosure-11224122

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-42834667

http://www.2harecourt.com/training-and-knowledge/disclosure-failure-the-court-of-appeal-make-it-plain-that-compliance-with-cpr-is-critical/

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-42795058

To keep you going.

[Mr Gray]

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/police-crown-prosecution-service-disclosure-lawyers-trial-a7846021.html

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-42841346

https://news.sky.com/story/every-rape-case-to-be-urgently-reviewed-over-evidence-disclosure-11224122

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-42834667

http://www.2harecourt.com/training-and-knowledge/disclosure-failure-the-court-of-appeal-make-it-plain-that-compliance-with-cpr-is-critical/

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-42795058

To keep you going.

so you can provide a cite but didnt want to ....is non disclosure only a problem in the uk or is it that our system is so open these sort of things come to light

[Wonderfulspam]

I notice they plan to review 'all live rape and serious sexual assault cases'

No plans for reviews of historic rape cases then....

Just last week Ms Saunders claimed that no one innocent is in prison due to disclosure failures....

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/rape-trials-collapse-no-innocent-people-jail-disclosure-failures-dpp-alison-saunders-police-a8166746.html

[Eleanor]

I notice they plan to review 'all live rape and serious sexual assault cases'

No plans for reviews of historic rape cases then....

Just last week Ms Saunders claimed that no one innocent is in prison due to disclosure failures....

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/rape-trials-collapse-no-innocent-people-jail-disclosure-failures-dpp-alison-saunders-police-a8166746.html

Ms. Saunders is obviously talking out of the bottom of her backside.

I am horrified by the lack of interest in Social Media, where most of the evidence of innocence is to be found.

This Social Media has been available for at least ten years.  She should be sacked, if only for incompetence.

[Wonderfulspam]

Ms. Saunders is obviously talking out of the bottom of her backside.

I am horrified by the lack of interest in Social Media, where most of the evidence of innocence is to be found.

This Social Media has been available for at least ten years.  She should be sacked, if only for incompetence.

I'm glad you said that, I was going to suggest she should be honoured with a P45.

I believe there has been a deliberate attempt to improve rape conviction rates through non disclosure.

The conviction rate is between 5% to 10%, I believe.

[slartibartfast]

so you can provide a cite but didnt want to ....is non disclosure only a problem in the uk or is it that our system is so open these sort of things come to light

We expect posters to be aware of major news stories.

[Mr Gray]

We expect posters to be aware of major news stories.

I've been out.... I am aware and think I understand  it better than you... I will explain later

[Mr Gray]

This is odd...has my explanation been removed

[Nicholas]

Departing director of public prosecutions warns that huge amounts of online evidence are adding to strain and delaying investigations
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/crime-prosecutions-uk-police-cps-budget-cuts-criminal-justice-system-alison-saunders-a8605276.html

[Eleanor]

Departing director of public prosecutions warns that huge amounts of online evidence are adding to strain and delaying investigations
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/crime-prosecutions-uk-police-cps-budget-cuts-criminal-justice-system-alison-saunders-a8605276.html

Tough, if it proves Innocence.