Author Topic: Tavares Report wrongly claims EVRD Eddie alerted within the boot of the hire car  (Read 75990 times)

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AnneGuedes

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ferryman

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Aficionados of the dogs should pay heed to the dogs' reactions.

Keela reacted to the boot but Eddie didn't = blood but no cadaver scent (also a non-alerting error by Eddie, because Eddie should have alerted to the blood).

Keela reacted to the ignition key and so did Eddie. = blood but no cadaver scent.

Confirmed in the labs.

Gerry's blood.

End of story.

AnneGuedes

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Well in that case Anne,   Gerry McCann was there when Kate raised the alarm that Madeleine was missing as Dianne Webster said in her statement  that Kate said Madeleine has gone GERRY.   So if Dianne Webster wasn't 'in on it'  she is telling the truth and not covering up isn't she?
Imo Madeleine hadn't yet disappeared when Mrs McCann raised the alarm.

AnneGuedes

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The sandbox test of the car key was IMO a sensible and precise test to do, it is surprising that the same test was not done on the toy.
It was very useful to determine if Eddie had alerted to the key card or to some part of the car that could hardly have been indirectly contaminated, whereas it was easy for the key card to have been.

Redblossom

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The sheer catatonia exhibited by some at the mere suggestion the childs body could have been the source of the cadaver dog alerts and the extraordinary lengths (some of them frankly disgusting and others blatant lies)they have gone to to "suggest/prove" this is the least possible scenario says it all IMO

Its OK if Eddie is thought to have reacted to blood, anything else is like that hair removal advert in TV, a no no


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The sheer catatonia exhibited by some at the mere suggestion the childs body could have been the source of the cadaver dog alerts and the extraordinary lengths (some of them frankly disgusting and others blatant lies)they have gone to to "suggest/prove" this is the least possible scenario says it all IMO

Its OK if Eddie is thought to have reacted to blood, anything else is like that hair removal advert in TV, a no no

What says it all is..

Martin Grime has said that the alerts have no evidential value
SY and Amarals lawyer both agree that madeleine may still be alive

You need to take your head out of the sand

Offline pegasus

It was very useful to determine if Eddie had alerted to the key card or to some part of the car that could hardly have been indirectly contaminated, whereas it was easy for the key card to have been.
A good point..
Eddie's alert to the keycard in sand, was not to the car, but to an item which for the majority of time is not in the car.

stephen25000

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Can the possibility that the dogs alerted to the 'remains' of Madeleine be dismissed ?

A definitive, NO.


Offline Mr Gray

Can the possibility that the dogs alerted to the 'remains' of Madeleine be dismissed ?

A definitive, NO.

Thats a celestial teapot argument again

Offline VIXTE

Aficionados of the dogs should pay heed to the dogs' reactions.

Keela reacted to the boot but Eddie didn't = blood but no cadaver scent (also a non-alerting error by Eddie, because Eddie should have alerted to the blood).

Keela reacted to the ignition key and so did Eddie. = blood but no cadaver scent.

Confirmed in the labs.

Gerry's blood.

End of story.

What people don't understand is that both dogs react on blood.

What Keala reacts on a Eddie doesn't is just blood
What both react to is again just blood
What Eddie reacts to and Keala doesn't should be considered as cadaver but it has to be triple checked because it can also be only blood..
Wasn't this proven behind the sofa when DNA of PJ officers was found?

Silkywhiskers

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Aficionados of the dogs should pay heed to the dogs' reactions.

Keela reacted to the boot but Eddie didn't = blood but no cadaver scent (also a non-alerting error by Eddie, because Eddie should have alerted to the blood).

Keela reacted to the ignition key and so did Eddie. = blood but no cadaver scent.

Confirmed in the labs.

Gerry's blood.

End of story.

Lol

Do you not see the flaw in your argument?

The dogs alerted.

Blood and DNA were found at the alert sites thereby confirming the dogs were correct.



Offline VIXTE

Lol

Do you not see the flaw in your argument?

The dogs alerted.

Blood and DNA were found at the alert sites thereby confirming the dogs were correct.

Yes, they were correct. On blood.
This is what they do. They alert on blood.
But this was not Madeleine's blood.

Offline Carana

What people don't understand is that both dogs react on blood.

What Keala reacts on a Eddie doesn't is just blood
What both react to is again just blood
What Eddie reacts to and Keala doesn't should be considered as cadaver but it has to be triple checked because it can also be only blood..
Wasn't this proven behind the sofa when DNA of PJ officers was found?

As we've discussed on other threads, he also reacted to sex clean-up tissues in Jersey, which Grime considered to be within his training parameters.

Redblossom

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As we've discussed on other threads, he also reacted to sex clean-up tissues in Jersey, which Grime considered to be within his training parameters.

Bit totally and utterly  irrelevant if none were found, same goes for rotting teeth falling out, toenails, abortions! Pork chops, bad breath. Wee , etc etc..fill in the ridiculous blanks

catch u later >>>
« Last Edit: March 06, 2014, 03:30:00 PM by Redblossom »

ferryman

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In the inspection of the vehicles, Keela alerted to the boot but Eddie didn't (despite, at one point, being directed by Grime to the boot area and squatting under it for several seconds).

Key question: was that an alerting error by Keela (because there was no blood in the mix removed from the boot)?

Or was it an error of failing to alert by Eddie (because there was blood in the mix from the boot)?