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« Reply #1260 on: January 19, 2018, 10:41:30 AM »
Now this changes the timeline of phone calls ... Steven Morris of The Guardian..

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Greg Reardon called  #joyeates parents at 12.36am then emergency services, police arrived 2am

6:35 AM - 17 Oct 2011


Edit... If Greg called the Yeates at 12:36am and the Police around 1:00am... The Yeates were travelling from Southampton to Bristol....

What made the Police turn up at the Flat at 2:00am, before The Yeates arrived???? 

What was said to the POLICE about this Missing adult??
What was said to the Police to make them arrive within an hour???

Did the Yeates ring the Police to tell them of their concerns.... ???



https://twitter.com/stevenmorris20/status/125928034569175040

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« Reply #1261 on: January 19, 2018, 11:14:06 AM »
Who's Micheal McParland.. and what did he have to do with the trial ??

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Barrister Michael McParland says jury couldn't hear strangulation porn evidence cos it would imply guilt and not allow fair trial. #JoYeates

Standing in the witness box and saying what happened more than implies some form of guilt!!

https://twitter.com/LornyDunkley/status/129941425860263937

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« Reply #1262 on: January 19, 2018, 11:29:03 AM »
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Judge - prosecution say Tabak defence statements are important as they did not mention facts he later relied on in court. #JoYeates

4:14 AM - 26 Oct 2011

https://twitter.com/robmayor/status/129153843807260672

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Judge #JoYeates: His no comment to police doesn't prevent you from drawing conclusions from his silence.

https://twitter.com/skymartinbrunt/status/129153441841950720

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Judge to jury #JoYeates: You must not assume that because he lied he is guilty

4:09 AM - 26 Oct 2011

https://twitter.com/skymartinbrunt/status/129152792001650690


Now if Dr Vincent Tabak made "NO COMMENT" to the Police.... How could he have lied?????

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« Reply #1263 on: January 19, 2018, 11:32:48 AM »
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#JoYeates' parents turn to glance at #Tabak in the dock behind them and then watch intently as the jury take oath.

4:23 AM - 26 Oct 2011
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https://twitter.com/SunriseIsabel/status/129156249118973952


Now forgive me if i am lost here.... But don't the jury take the oath at the start of trial and not at the end??

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« Reply #1264 on: January 19, 2018, 11:54:44 AM »
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Tabak is being shown pictures inside the kitchen on Flat 1. He "can't remember" where they were #joyeates

https://twitter.com/SWNS/status/127007505564962816

There's 2 or 3 foot of space in the kitchen we have come to know as Joanna Yeates kitchen... What pictures did they show Dr Vincent Tabak...?? He should have easily been able to say where he was !!

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« Reply #1265 on: January 19, 2018, 12:23:21 PM »
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Statement from dog walker Robert Birch describes the moment he saw Joanna Yeates body on Longwood lane. #joyeates

2:17 AM - 14 Oct 2011
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https://twitter.com/HeartWestNews/status/124775840960622592

Then a correction...  So we know the full name of Mr Birch...

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Correction: Dog walker is Daniel Robert Birch. Now hearing evidence from police forensic coordinator. #joyeates

2:34 AM - 14 Oct 2011

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« Reply #1266 on: January 19, 2018, 12:30:44 PM »
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Put in a shift at the crown court today for Tabak. Some incredible details revealed. #tabak #joyeates

1:11 PM - 10 Oct 2011

https://twitter.com/JamesSBeal/status/123490925375791104


Is this when the porn was revealed to the media???


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« Reply #1267 on: January 19, 2018, 02:01:16 PM »
Thought I would add Tweets from Avon and Somerset Police before they vanish..


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#joyeates #joannayeates Thanks to Jo's family and Greg for their assistance in the most difficult of circumstances http://bit.ly/i9eb3e

https://twitter.com/ASPolice/status/28942967095955456

What did they do to help??

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#JoYeates #JoannaYeates Man charged with the murder of Joanna Yeates (Failand): Detectives investigating the dea... http://bit.ly/i9eb3e

https://twitter.com/ASPolice/status/28930791404736513

Obviously no longer on Avon and Somersets website.

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#joyeates #yeates We have charged Vincent Tabak with the Murder of Joanna Yeates: http://bit.ly/icvwVE

1:29 PM - 22 Jan 2011

https://twitter.com/ASPolice/status/28927292038193152

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#JoYeates #JoannaYeates Warrant of further detention obtained. (Failand): This afternoon, police have been to co... http://bit.ly/dJeP0u


https://twitter.com/ASPolice/status/28490880641925120

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#JoYeates #JoannaYeates Police granted extra time to quiz man over Jo death (Failand): Update to Jo Yeates murde... http://bit.ly/fjcANl

https://twitter.com/ASPolice/status/28358987619500032


Failand gets mentioned a lot... ?

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#JoYeates #JoannaYeates Man arrested in Joanna Yeates murder investigation (Failand): Early this morning a 32 ye... http://bit.ly/eNk12N

12:53 AM - 20 Jan 2011

https://twitter.com/ASPolice/status/28012288401219584

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« Reply #1268 on: January 19, 2018, 02:02:59 PM »
This curious tweet back in 2011, has Dr vincent Tabak's age different...  very strange..

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Although, according to 192 search of 2010 electoral role, Vincent Tabak is the 40-44 age band? http://bit.ly/ehNfCK #joyeates

7:01 AM - 20 Jan 2011

https://twitter.com/Josiensor/status/28104792735744000

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« Reply #1269 on: January 20, 2018, 05:22:12 PM »
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Our barristers have unrivalled experience in all types of homicide cases.

With sixteen QC’s, including current and former senior Treasury Counsel, as well as a large number of senior leading juniors, Chambers can ensure that whatever the nature of the case an experienced counsel can be provided, tailored to the circumstances of the case.

Members both defend and prosecute in the entire range of homicide cases, including:

Terrorism
Gangland executions
Multi-handed murders
Baby shaking murders
Infanticide
Familial homicides
Sexually motivated murders
Gross negligence manslaughter
Corporate manslaughter

Where does Dr Vincent Tabak fit into this.... Dr Vincent Tabak never said anything until trial... So how would they know what catergory he would fit into?

https://www.2bedfordrow.co.uk/practice-areas/murder-and-manslaughter/

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« Reply #1270 on: January 20, 2018, 06:07:35 PM »
Why is this Image supplied by "Enterprise News?? (attached)

Enterprise News is an American paper.. Very odd!

http://metro.co.uk/2011/10/30/vincent-tabaks-ex-girlfriend-declares-sympathy-for-joanna-yeates-family-201599/

Is the metro part of Enterprise News?

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« Reply #1271 on: January 20, 2018, 07:09:43 PM »
Where is the Radiator in Joanna Yeates kitchen??

Must have been freezing in there when she returned home.. Surprised she didn't leave her coat on....

Her Green Fleece and Jacket were off.. I cannot imagine her taking them off if that kitchen is ICE cold

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"Joanna went into her flat. She took off her coat, she took off her green fleece that she was wearing under her coat and put it on a chair, she took off her boots and she went into the kitchen.

How does Clegg know her Green Fleece was on the chair?? And why has it been removed from the crime scene?? Also he say she takes off her boots.... The house is FREEZING!!

The kitchen has no heating!!

Edit... We don't even know if the heating was ever switched on!





http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/8836324/Vincent-Tabak-strangled-Joanna-Yeates-after-she-invited-him-in-for-a-drink.html

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« Reply #1272 on: January 21, 2018, 11:19:07 AM »
What did they originally arrest Dr Vincent Tabak with?? ( They only had a partial DNA sample at time of arrest)..

I want to look at this again.. William Cleggs practice...
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Our barristers have unrivalled experience in all types of homicide cases.

With sixteen QC’s, including current and former senior Treasury Counsel, as well as a large number of senior leading juniors, Chambers can ensure that whatever the nature of the case an experienced counsel can be provided, tailored to the circumstances of the case.

Members both defend and prosecute in the entire range of homicide cases, including:

Terrorism
Gangland executions
Multi-handed murders
Baby shaking murders
Infanticide
Familial homicides
Sexually motivated murders
Gross negligence manslaughter
Corporate manslaughter

Familial homicides

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Familial homicide is a form of homicide recognised in England and Wales by the Domestic Violence, Crime and Victims Act 2004 and carries a prison sentence of up to 14 years.

The Act closes a legal loophole that allows those jointly accused of the murder of a child or vulnerable adult to avoid prosecution by remaining silent or blaming each other; it puts a clear legal responsibility on adults who have frequent contact with a child or vulnerable adult to take reasonable steps of protection if they knew or should have known the child or vulnerable adult was at significant risk of serious physical harm from members of that household.


Justice Field....

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Field said his murderous attack was "a dreadful, evil act against a vulnerable young woman in her own home".

Was that it??? Was that how they managed to arrest Dr Vincent Tabak?? Joanna Yeates was a Vulnerable adult?

Was the household shared??
Is that why he felt responsible???

The sex angle seems wrong to me... Joanna Yeates letting a stranger in... Dr Vincent Tabak story that doesn't add up... The Prosecution not having any solid evidence to support the idea it was a "Sexually Motivated Murder"..

I think the idea of the "Sexually motivated Attack' came later...

Thinking back to CJ... Is that another reason why they arrested him? He was the Landord and had rented a property to a vulnerable adult??

Now lets think about what type of people CJ would allow in his property... He's not going to have any Tom dick or Harry renting... He must have some type of recommendation...

Bristol Housing for Vulnerable People...  Was CJ on some type of list?? As a suitable landlord for Vulnerable Adults??

Would make sense why the Investigation focused entirely on that house!! And why CJ was arrested...

Thinking about it... Tanja Morson could been seen as a vulnerable adult...

Is that why Dr Vincent Tabak and herself constantly kept in contact with each other ??  And why she has kept herself away from all of what has gone on in this trial... That also could be the reason that she never attended court... She was being protected because she is a Vulnerable Adult.. That too would make sense ....

So did CJ only rent to people who were Vulnerable? as a household that was a safe haven for adults in that situation?? Where there was an alarm in place and an Intercom with a door that was doubled locked at all times.....

CJ would have lost out massively, if he was a landlord on a list for vulnerable Adults to rent a property from.....

The polices attention at 44,Canygne Road from the minute that Joanna Yeates was reported 'Missing" was full on!! And the only other possible reason I can think of why that would be was Joanna yeates was classed as a Vulnerable Adult .. Making the fact that they turned up an hour after Greg rang them make lots of sense..

The Police act swiftly for Vulnerable Adults who are "Missing"... And the circumstances in which her belongings where left in the Flat only added to the heightened concern for her well being... (imo)..

Is that the reason "Paul Cook" dropped Dr Vincent Tabak? His firm are maybe not experienced in "Familial homicides?"... It's a possibility...

I can now see why "Tanja Morson" wouldn't attend court or be harrassed by the media... lets face it, she's made no statements to speak of and her father initially spoke for her... The media kept away from her and still do....


So it's a possibility that everything to do with the Investigation, was because, 44, Canygne Road, was a property that Vulnerable adults rented.. Therefore putting CJ at the top of the suspect list as he would be head of the household being the landlord!!

And if they were "protecting" vulnerable adults we can see why maybe the motive appeared to change...

One question that was never asked... Did Tanja Morson know Joanna Yeates ?? Now that is a big question... Which leaves me with many more question because of it..!!

Was The "Old Bailey " appearance to discuss about protecting someone ?? His case number bothered me (u20110387)... And the fact that it was held at court room 2... A court room for terrorist and special cases, supports the idea that someone was being protected... !!

So what is the real story of what happened to Joanna Yeates ??? Because I know we haven't been told!!!!!

Edit.. Is the reason that Joanna Yeates didn't answer her texts immediately something to do with her vulnerability?? She could have had some kind of syndrome herself... We know very little about Joanna Yeates ..


https://www.bristol.gov.uk/social-care-health/supporting-vulnerable-people
https://www.theguardian.com/uk/2011/oct/28/joanna-yeates-murder-vincent-tabak
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Familial_homicide

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« Reply #1273 on: January 21, 2018, 11:47:09 AM »
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The Act closes a legal loophole that allows those jointly accused of the murder of a child or vulnerable adult to avoid prosecution by remaining silent or blaming each other;

From the above post.....

Now is that not shouting loudly enough, why Dr Vincent Tabak remained Silent through out all of his Interviews!!!!

Oh yes... lets not forget they told us he tried to lay the Blame on CJ!!!!!

I think it's a strong possibility why Dr Vincent Tabak kept silent...!!

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« Reply #1274 on: January 21, 2018, 11:53:42 AM »
Maybe that is also the reason we never heard the 'Phone call" from Holland... Because it was actually Tanaj Morson who made the call... And Dr Vincent Tabak took responsibility for it...

Maybe they Interviewed Tanja.. And Dr Vincent Tabak was protecting her.... All very possible..(imo)

I think from this moment forward I will refer to Tanja as TM... if she is a vulnerable adult then her name splashed all over the site wouldn't be fair for her... 

I am sorry TM if i have upset you... Nine