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Offline VIXTE

Re: Latest news on the search for Madeleine McCann
« Reply #3345 on: June 25, 2014, 03:26:51 AM »
So how would you know if they had their phone or someone else did?

There are many witnesses and many calls made and received that night. Phone records would show all the calls made by Madeleine's parents. At the times the calls are made the position of the phone is known to the mast receiving the connections.
Are you saying that it wasn't them who spoke to their relatives but their presumed clones?  @)(++(*

Offline slartibartfast

Re: Latest news on the search for Madeleine McCann
« Reply #3346 on: June 25, 2014, 03:34:55 AM »
There are many witnesses and many calls made and received that night. Phone records would show all the calls made by Madeleine's parents. At the times the calls are made the position of the phone is known to the mast receiving the connections.
Are you saying that it wasn't them who spoke to their relatives but their presumed clones?  @)(++(*

Most phone pings are not to do with calls just automatic polling .
“Reasoning will never make a Man correct an ill Opinion, which by Reasoning he never acquired”.

Offline VIXTE

Re: Latest news on the search for Madeleine McCann
« Reply #3347 on: June 25, 2014, 03:40:44 AM »
Most phone pings are not to do with calls just automatic polling .

That is true.
But the massive number of the phone calls are helpful in this case. As if Gerry said he was in front of 5A at say 01.03 am talking to his sister Trish then this can be checked out. If someone else says they saw Gerry by the beach at the same time then it must have been his twin brother.  @)(++(*

I love it when there is no room for a speculation.. ?>)()<

Offline slartibartfast

Re: Latest news on the search for Madeleine McCann
« Reply #3348 on: June 25, 2014, 03:57:37 AM »
That is true.
But the massive number of the phone calls are helpful in this case. As if Gerry said he was in front of 5A at say 01.03 am talking to his sister Trish then this can be checked out. If someone else says they saw Gerry by the beach at the same time then it must have been his twin brother.  @)(++(*

I love it when there is no room for a speculation.. ?>)()<

As Benice is always saying witness statements are notoriously inaccurate, the phone location accuracy is also a lot worse than you imagine.
“Reasoning will never make a Man correct an ill Opinion, which by Reasoning he never acquired”.

Offline VIXTE

Re: Latest news on the search for Madeleine McCann
« Reply #3349 on: June 25, 2014, 04:07:09 AM »
As Benice is always saying witness statements are notoriously inaccurate, the phone location accuracy is also a lot worse than you imagine.

I don't imagine. I have experience working with this sort of data.

Offline carlymichelle

Re: Latest news on the search for Madeleine McCann
« Reply #3350 on: June 25, 2014, 06:32:35 AM »
good to see our  Australian media isn't afraid to publish honestly


''What it’s like to holiday at the beach resort where Madeleine McCann went missing

Wendy Fitzgibbon in Praia da Luz
Escape
June 24, 2014 7:30am

http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/travel/travel-news/what-its-like-to-holiday-at-the-beach-resort-where-madeleine-mccann-went-missing/story-fn[Name removed]v9zj-1226964726378?nk=376dacff0170a5cadeab97925f4eb15b

In recent weeks, police converged on a search site near the Praia da Luz beach in an attempt to finally solve the mystery of what happened to Madeleine McCann.

THE warm Mediterranean sun shines down on the blinding white sands of the popular Portuguese holiday resort of Praia da Luz as holiday makers laze under thatched umbrellas and children paddle in the shallow turquoise waters of the protected little bay with the spectacular but imposing Rocha Negra (Black Rock) looming in the background.

The scene is idyllic, but just kilometres up the road scores of British police and sniffer dogs have spent the last three weeks digging up and scouring the sandy red soil on the outskirts of the picturesque Algarve village for long-buried clues to finally solve one of Europe’s biggest mysteries.

It was in this picture-perfect family holiday setting that the now famous British toddler Madeleine McCann went missing from her family’s holiday villa just over seven years ago and became the focus of the most heavily reported missing person case in modern history.

The details of the final hours before Madeleine’s disappearance on the evening of May 3, 2007 are well documented, but despite an intense seven-year investigation conducted by law enforcement authorities on both the Portuguese and British side of the Atlantic, as well as private investigators hired by the McCann family, the fate of the cherubic-looking three-year-old remains a mystery.

The seemingly cold case of the missing youngster reared its head again a month ago when Scotland Yard sought permission from the local Portuguese authorities to probe a previously unsearched area of scrubland just a few minutes’ walk from the Ocean Club resort where the McCann family were staying on the night of their daughter’s disappearance.

It is unclear what new clues or evidence the British police were basing their latest search on, but once again, the now-familiar foreign police, forensic officers, sniffer dogs, radar equipment, and of course the attendant media pack, have invaded the small holiday town.

For Praia da Luz locals, this latest development is just another chapter in the never-ending story of Madeleine McCann, which for the past seven years has turned their previously quiet, unassuming hometown into an international circus and destroyed its reputation as a safe, peaceful family holiday destination.

The case has become Portugal’s Azaria Chamberlain case - the crime that has everyone talking but no one knows the answers.

The friendly hospitality staff at the local hotels and restaurants are happy to chat about the weather, the catch of the day and the best local tourist attractions, but just don’t mention the M word.

But like everyone else that has ever read, listened or watched any media coverage about the case, they too, have their theories about Maddie’s disappearance.

One resident who ran another holiday resort in the town at the time of Maddie’s disappearance tells of one local theory that was doing the rounds when the case first came to light.

Drainage work was taking place to pipes in the town around the time and deep holes were dotted around the town. Some of the drains were filled in and covered over a day after Madeleine went missing. Some locals believe the toddler either wandered out of her room in search of her parents and tumbled into one of the pits, others think whoever attempted to abduct her may have panicked and dumped her body into one of the holes in an attempt to cover their tracks and then absconded.

The latest search seems to give weight to these theories, with ground-penetrating radar equipment being deployed to search a hole which was previously hidden by thick undergrowth.

But as the search enters its next phase and no major clues materialise, life goes on for the locals and visitors down the road in Praia da Luz.

Although it is only early June and the beginning of the Northern hemisphere summer holiday season, Europeans, mainly Brits, have already begun trickling into town.

During the days, the beach is dotted with sun-seeking holiday makers swimming, sunbathing and paddle boarding in the still-chilly Mediterranean Sea, and by night the many restaurants, cafes and bars along the waterfront are filling up with foreign visitors drinking jugs of sangria and bottles of Sagres (the local beer), eating the delicious fresh local sardines, clams and prawns and cheering their respective teams on in the World Cup.

Most seem oblivious to the excavation work taking place nearby, or if they are aware of it, they don’t appear bothered. Parents with toddlers still walk the cobblestone streets at night, I even saw a blonde-haired little girl in pink pyjamas bearing a strong resemblance to Madeleine being pushed down the beach-side promenade in a stroller one night.

But just a few blocks back from the beach, the Ocean Club seems a little quieter. Out by the main pool, the courtyard that previously housed the infamous tapas restaurant where the McCanns and their travelling companions dined that fateful night while their children slept over the other side of the pool has now been converted into a bar and the restaurant moved to another location.

When asking for a cocktail around the 7pm one balmy night, the barman tells us the bar is closed for the evening and to perhaps head to the resort’s other bars, The Mill Pond or the Mirage, for a drink instead. The pool is empty and all the deckchairs are deserted even though it is still 25C and the sun doesn’t go down til 9pm in these parts at this time of year.

Other than an unmanned desk with a sign on the front door that announces: “Welcome to the Garden. Please show your Ocean Club passes to reception before entering the pool area” there is nothing to suggest anything more sinister than a bad sunburn or ant bite has ever taken place inside the resort walls.

Despite the relative calm in town, the long-running investigation has nevertheless taken its toll on the relationship between the local Portuguese residents and the British police.

Graffiti sprayed on a wall on the southern outskirts of town sums up the local sentiment: “Policia Ingesa estupidos”. Translated into English, it reads: “English police are stupid”.

Matters weren’t helped early on in the case when the British media accused the Portuguese police of bungling the initial investigation.

But it is a catch 22 for local businesses and tourism operators. Most of their business comes from the British tourism market, evidenced by the fact that almost all locals speak fluent English and all restaurant menus and even road signs are also in English. They can’t afford to lose this sector of the market.

So the search for Maddie goes on and life in Luz goes on.

I asked a female employee of a local riding school who was a schoolgirl at the time of Madeleine’s disappearance what her thoughts were on the case.

She shrugged her shoulders and said: “I don’t know, no one knows. We just want it to be over.”

Words that I am sure the McCann family and everyone else involved the case would agree with.

But it seems this story won’t have a happy fairy tale ending.



« Last Edit: June 25, 2014, 12:18:06 PM by Admin »

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Latest news on the search for Madeleine McCann
« Reply #3351 on: June 25, 2014, 06:43:43 AM »
good to see our   australian media isnt  afriad to publish honestly
 seems this story won’t have a happy fairy tale ending.

yes carly a very honest article...have yiu read it...

It doesnt blame the parents
« Last Edit: June 25, 2014, 12:19:50 PM by Admin »

Offline carlymichelle

Re: Latest news on the search for Madeleine McCann
« Reply #3352 on: June 25, 2014, 06:50:07 AM »
yes carly a very honest article...have yiu read it...

It doesnt blame the parents

not it doesnt but it  exposes the uk media  saying that the pj  was bungling they have not helped anyone

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Latest news on the search for Madeleine McCann
« Reply #3353 on: June 25, 2014, 06:55:29 AM »
not it doesnt but it  exposes the uk media  saying that the pj  was bungling they have not helped anyone

excellent article...thanks carly...doesnt blame the parents

Offline Admin

Re: Latest news on the search for Madeleine McCann
« Reply #3354 on: June 25, 2014, 12:28:34 PM »
good to see our  Australian media isn't afraid to publish honestly

''What it’s like to holiday at the beach resort where Madeleine McCann went missing

Wendy Fitzgibbon in Praia da Luz
Escape
June 24, 2014 7:30am.

The seemingly cold case of the missing youngster reared its head again a month ago when Scotland Yard sought permission from the local Portuguese authorities to probe a previously unsearched area of scrubland just a few minutes’ walk from the Ocean Club resort where the McCann family were staying on the night of their daughter’s disappearance.

The latest search seems to give weight to these theories, with ground-penetrating radar equipment being deployed to search a hole which was previously hidden by thick undergrowth.



For the record, these claims are false.  The mound area was searched by GNR sniffer dogs the morning after Madeline's disappearance as was every area of scrub in and around the village.

The hole covered by corrugated tin sheeting searched by SY has been visible for many years according to local British residents but let's keep the myth machine running...sells stories after all even in Oz.

http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/travel/travel-news/what-its-like-to-holiday-at-the-beach-resort-where-madeleine-mccann-went-missing/story-fn[Name removed]v9zj-1226964726378?nk=376dacff0170a5cadeab97925f4eb15b
« Last Edit: June 25, 2014, 12:35:51 PM by Admin »

Offline slartibartfast

Re: Latest news on the search for Madeleine McCann
« Reply #3355 on: June 25, 2014, 01:49:35 PM »
I don't imagine. I have experience working with this sort of data.

 @)(++(*
“Reasoning will never make a Man correct an ill Opinion, which by Reasoning he never acquired”.

Offline pegasus

Re: Latest news on the search for Madeleine McCann
« Reply #3356 on: June 25, 2014, 02:11:45 PM »
...The mound area was searched by GNR sniffer dogs the morning after Madeline's disappearance as was every area of scrub in and around the village...
Yes that sounds correct.
Also I think the mound area was searched by at least one group of non-police searchers including resort employees during the night of the disappearance (Source: Vol2 p383)
BTW I think the mound has nothing to do with the case.
« Last Edit: June 25, 2014, 04:05:25 PM by Mr Moderator »

Offline faithlilly

Re: Latest news on the search for Madeleine McCann
« Reply #3357 on: June 25, 2014, 10:44:00 PM »
Any news on those  8 imminent arrests that all our newspapers, including if I remember correctly the Guardian,  announced some weeks back ? You know the ones that weren't the McCanns and their friends.
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Alfred R Jones

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Re: Latest news on the search for Madeleine McCann
« Reply #3358 on: June 25, 2014, 10:49:25 PM »
it was just over two weeks ago that the papers reported arrests "in the very near future" - patience dear Faithlilly, patience.
« Last Edit: June 30, 2014, 12:12:34 PM by Mr Moderator »

Offline Mr Moderator

Re: Latest news on the search for Madeleine McCann
« Reply #3359 on: June 30, 2014, 12:12:21 PM »
MI5 spies know what happened to Maddie McCann, claims Portuguese detective

MI5 AGENTS know what happened to missing Madeleine McCann but are covering it up, claims former Portuguese detective Goncalo Amaral.



Kate and Gerry McCann, in Praia da Luz the year Madeleine vanished, are suing Goncalo Amaral (left)


The disgraced detective made the bombshell claim in a Portuguese television documentary that openly mocked Scotland Yard’s new investigation. When asked if people will ever learn what really happened, Mr Amaral responded: “Yes, we will, when MI5 opens the case files, we will find out.

“Don’t forget that the British secret services followed the case right from the beginning. I don’t know if that information will be made available but if it’s like the United States, it takes years to have access to confidential information.”

Mr Amaral, 56, was the officer who co-ordinated the Portuguese police investigation from May 3, 2007, when three-year-old Madeleine vanished from her family’s holiday apartment at Praia da Luz on the Algarve.

After criticising British police he was kicked off the case four months later.

In his latest interview he claims that after two British police dogs were used to searched the McCann’s apartment at the Ocean Club, his team had to take the British person responsible for the operation to Faro Airport.

Amaral, now retired and working as a crime writer, went on: “He’s at the airport waiting for a plane to return to England and he receives a phone call. Then he explains to our colleague that a member of MI5 was at the airport, waiting to talk with him about the result of the investigation.

“Someone has the information, so make the information available.”

There has been suspicion in the senior ranks of Portugal’s police that US and/or British intelligence chiefs have satellite images of the area that could be helpful but have never passed them on.

The latest Scotland Yard squad is apparently working on the theory that Madeleine was abducted by burglars who were also involved in drug trafficking. Mr Amaral said the same theory was put forward by a Yard detective seconded to his team seven years ago.

“It was discussed and completely set aside because it made no sense,” he said. “Nobody has proved the house was broken into, that there was a theft, there are no traces of a break-in. No money, cameras or anything else was taken.”

He said he expects the latest Yard inquiry to wind down soon, without a breakthrough, adding: “They are getting to the point of saying that she is dead.

“They will reach the point of saying that the cadaver can’t be found and the case can’t be solved.”

Mr Amaral will face Madeleine’s parents Kate and Gerry McCann, from Rothley, Leicestershire, at a civil court in Lisbon on July 8.

The couple, who cling to the hope their daughter might be alive, are suing him for £1million for libel over his claim that Madeleine died in the apartment, made in his book The Truth Of The Lie.

http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/485524/Portuguese-detective-says-MI5-spies-know-what-happened-to-Madeleine-McCann