So what is the latest state of play from Scotland Yard?

[John]

Scotland Yard have recently gone on record to announce many persons of interest in the Madeleine case but have not as yet indicated that any of them are suspects. They also felt invlined to go as far as to state that none of the tapas-9 are among those identified.

Are we really any further forward than we were 6 years ago?

[Rachel Granada]

The Yard have categorically stated that the McCanns and friends are not persons of interest.  Don't forget that they have been on this for over 2 years now, so will have had a thorough look at things.

[ferryman]

The Yard have categorically stated that the McCanns and friends are not persons of interest.  Don't forget that they have been on this for over 2 years now, so will have had a thorough look at things.

The Yard are saying that.

The final PJ report said that.

The Portuguese prosecutors said that

Lord Justice Tugendhat, ruling in McCann v Bennett, said that.

Quite astounding that they are all wrong, while convicted torturer Almeida Tavares, with his interim report, was right ...

[Rachel Granada]

The Yard are saying that.

The final PJ report said that.

The Portuguese prosecutors said that

Lord Justice Tugendhat, ruling in McCann v Bennett, said that.

Quite astounding that they are all wrong, while convicted torturer Almeida Tavares, with his interim report, was right ...

Nail on head, ferryman. Why oh why do people still quote the interim report, I ask myself.  It is about as much use as an ashtray on a motorbike.  Yet people still think it has credibility.

[AnneGuedes]

We need to see evidence. Computer simulations showing opportunity isn't evidence it happened.

That's for sure : without evidence of abduction SY will not be able to change the conclusions of the AG and the general opinion that this is a fishy case.
Now the HO speak of "suspects" :
"This is an ongoing police investigation with several suspects at large."
http://www.mccannfiles.com/id232.html

[Redblossom]

Hi Lyall - I hear what you are saying, but come on!  The Yard have categorically stated that the McCanns and friends are not persons of interest. 

Oh come on! Do you seriously think if they were Redwood would have said so on camera???
 

Ergo, no one knows if they are or not in reality

[Rachel Granada]

That's for sure : without evidence of abduction SY will not be able to change the conclusions of the AG and the general opinion that this is a fishy case.
Now the HO speak of "suspects" :
"This is an ongoing police investigation with several suspects at large."
http://www.mccannfiles.com/id232.html

Why is it "fishy", Anne?

[Lyall]

The Yard are saying that.

The final PJ report said that.

The Portuguese prosecutors said that

Lord Justice Tugendhat, ruling in McCann v Bennett, said that.

Quite astounding that they are all wrong, while convicted torturer Almeida Tavares, with his interim report, was right ...

We could discuss the AG report all day and night, and not agree. Everybody sees in it what they want to see.

It just says there is insufficient evidence. Insufficient to determine anything categorically.

[Redblossom]

That's for sure : without evidence of abduction SY will not be able to change the conclusions of the AG and the general opinion that this is a fishy case.
Now the HO speak of "suspects" :
"This is an ongoing police investigation with several suspects at large."
http://www.mccannfiles.com/id232.html

Dear God!

The Home Office needs to get better personnel! preferrably ones who communicate with Operation Grange

 

Several raptors running around the continent?

[AnneGuedes]

We could discuss the AG report all day and night, and not agree. Everybody sees in it what they want to see.

It just says there is insufficient evidence. Insufficient to determine anything categorically.

That answers Rachel's question : a case where the nature of the crime couldn't be determined is fishy, a fortiori if the protagonists refused to reconstruct.

[Rachel Granada]

That answers Rachel's question : a case where the nature of the crime couldn't be determined is fishy, a fortiori it the protagonists refused to reconstruct.

What the Dickens is a fortiori??!!   

[Redblossom]

I dont think so, Scotland Yard are very good, and when they are good theyare very good,  then again they can be bad, and when they are bad, its really bad, just like alot of police forces!

In this case the HO have made the same mistake as several newspapers, interpreting people of interest as *suspects*

[Redblossom]

What the Dickens is a fortiori??!!

Wiki helps sometimes


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_fortiori_argument

In other words, in what was already an odd case, with  no conclusion or direction, lingering suspicions against the family and or friends were strengthened by the refusal of the tapas group to help in a reconstruction, this is what Anne meant I believe

[AnneGuedes]

Latin is part of UK history : Julius Caesar invaded England for the first time in 55 BC.
"a fortiori" means that the second proposition is even more certain than the first, as Redblossom understood.
Very useful expression BTW.

[John]

A new thread...so what is the current state of play in the Scotland Yard investigation?  Do we really know any more than we did six years ago?