Re: The deployment of the cadaver dogs revisited.

[stephen25000]

Bang on right, Lace.

The other point is that a dog at a crime scene picking stuff up is not a trained reaction.

But I don't blame the dog ...

What exactly are your professional credentials in dog handling 'ferryman' ?

[ferryman]

What exactly are your professional credentials in dog handling 'ferryman' ?

And both dogs trampling all over stuff they are tasked to inspect is not ideal, either ...

[stephen25000]

And both dogs trampling all over stuff they are tasked to inspect is not ideal, either ...

As per usual, you don't answer the salient questions.

[ferryman]

As per usual, you don't answer the salient questions.

Try not to delude yourself that you have asked a salient question.

Here is a salient question.  Actually, two

Why did Harrison disown UK involvement in those searches he didn't recommend?

And why did those searches he didn't recommend take place?

The answer to the first is obvious.

And I believe I know the answer to the second ...

[stephen25000]

Try not to delude yourself that you have asked a salient question.

Here is a salient question.  Actually, two

Why did Harrison disown UK involvement in those searches he didn't recommend?

And why did those searches he didn't recommend take place?

The answer to the first is obvious.


And I believe I know the answer to the second ...

First things first.

What qualifications  and also experience do you in the field of dog handling ?

[ferryman]

You have been demolished on numerous occasions with  your obsession with the dogs and you still haven't learnt from it. >@@(*&)

Only in your dreams, Stephen ...

[AnneGuedes]

Why did Harrison disown UK involvement in those searches he didn't recommend?

And why did those searches he didn't recommend take place?

Prof Harrison recommended some searches, in particular in the 5A. The 5A operation, since the HRD dog smelt death (before the search Prof Harrison knew no human remains would be found, therefore the lack of forensic corroboration is irrelevant), legitimises the hypothesis that Madeleine died in the flat, a fact that her parents hardly could have ignored. Any police that would discard that hypothesis just because "the parents said the child was abducted and they know better" or "the parents adored their child" or "the idea they're involved is outrageous" would be accused of incompetence everywhere on the planet.
I guess that on that topic, Ferryman, you have no evidence that Prof Harrison discredited Mr Grime's deployment of the dogs. Or do you ?

[stephen25000]

Only in your dreams, Stephen ...

I don't need to dream or fantasize on these.

Your trouble is, your 'skin' is too thick to realize it.

Again, what are your qualifications and expertise in dog handling ?

[stephen25000]

I don't pretend to be an expert in the use of dogs sadie, unlike 'ferryman'.

Googling to use the modern term doesn't make you an expert, neither does reading by itself, nor does tapping on a keyboard.

Perhaps 'ferryman' could explain his expertise for himself, and of course indicate when he has used dogs in such a situation.

[AnneGuedes]

Ferryman never pretended to be an expert in dogs, but in Prof Harrison MBE's subliminal opinion.

[sadie]

Ferryman never pretended to be an expert in dogs, but in Prof Harrison MBE's subliminal opinion.

Subliminals 

That's about your level Anne

You remind me of Professer Trawlawny in Harry Potter.  Do you have a crystal ball, perchance ?

Any good at tea leaves?

How about palmistry?

[Rachel Granada]

I have questioned Grime's professional competence from a solid, factual, standpoint.

How many times did Grime lead the dogs back to the Scenic after they had passed it by?

Sorry to derail folks, but it had to be said.

[stephen25000]

How many times did Grime lead the dogs back to the Scenic after they had passed it by?

Sorry to derail folks, but it had to be said.

Are you now an 'expert' just like 'ferryman' in the use of dogs ?

Have you practical experience in their use and have you had professional training in this regard ?

[ferryman]

Are you now an 'expert' just like 'ferryman' in the use of dogs ?

Have you practical experience in their use and have you had professional training in this regard ?

The practice of sending dogs to search in places where the person who is the subject of the search is known, definitely, never to have been is actually not unheard of.

But the precedent is very rare.

In fact I know of only one precedent -- Martin Grime.

I doubt that several of those searches had anything whatever to do with attempts to uncover the truth of what happened to Madeleine.

[stephen25000]

The practice of sending dogs to search in places where the person who is the subject of the search is known, definitely, never to have been is actually not unheard of.

But the precedent is very rare.

In fact I know of only one precedent -- Martin Grime.

I doubt that several of those searches had anything whatever to do with attempts to uncover the truth of what happened to Madeleine.

That is your blatantly biased opinion.

He is a professional in his field and well regraded.

Your standpoint is defense of the Mccanns and not neutral.

What would Grime have to gain from being biased ?

WHY WOULD HE BE BIASED ?

and don't repeat the claptrap of the Mccanns being framed, they weren't.