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Rachel Granada

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Re: Re: The deployment of the cadaver dogs revisited.
« Reply #30 on: September 02, 2013, 09:28:21 PM »
That is your blatantly biased opinion.

He is a professional in his field and well regraded.

Your standpoint is defense of the Mccanns and not neutral.

What would Grime have to gain from being biased ?

WHY WOULD HE BE BIASED ?

and don't repeat the claptrap of the Mccanns being framed, they weren't.

So why were the dogs ushered back time and time again to the Scenic, Stephen?  They had ignored it.

ferryman

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Re: Re: The deployment of the cadaver dogs revisited.
« Reply #31 on: September 02, 2013, 09:29:37 PM »
That is your blatantly biased opinion.

He is a professional in his field and well regraded.

Your standpoint is defense of the Mccanns and not neutral.

What would Grime have to gain from being biased ?

WHY WOULD HE BE BIASED ?

and don't repeat the claptrap of the Mccanns being framed, they weren't.

And further to Rachel's post ...

Why did Mark Harrison disown UK involvement in several of those searches?

Rachel Granada

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Re: Re: The deployment of the cadaver dogs revisited.
« Reply #32 on: September 02, 2013, 09:31:32 PM »
And further to Rachel's post ...

Why did Mark Harrison disown UK involvement in several of those searches?

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stephen25000

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Re: Re: The deployment of the cadaver dogs revisited.
« Reply #33 on: September 02, 2013, 09:51:20 PM »
And further to Rachel's post ...

Why did Mark Harrison disown UK involvement in several of those searches?


How many and what percentage ?

ferryman

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Re: Re: The deployment of the cadaver dogs revisited.
« Reply #34 on: September 02, 2013, 09:56:01 PM »

How many and what percentage ?

Mark Harrison disowned uk involvement in both inspections at the villa and the gym and the inspection of the vehicles.

He owned UK involvement in the inspections he recommended: areas in and around PdL, the holiday apartments and the Murat's place.

So 50% he disowned and 50% he owned.

ferryman

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Re: Re: The deployment of the cadaver dogs revisited.
« Reply #35 on: September 02, 2013, 10:02:49 PM »
It's also interesting to note that in his own conclusions, Harrison shifted from the parameters of his brief.

He was instructed to try to find Madeleine's concealed remains and, himself, concluded that if Madeleine was dead (a crucial qualification) it was most likely her body had been jettisoned into the sea ...

Offline Albertini

Re: Re: The deployment of the cadaver dogs revisited.
« Reply #36 on: September 02, 2013, 11:56:02 PM »
That is your blatantly biased opinion.

He is a professional in his field and well regraded.

Your standpoint is defense of the Mccanns and not neutral.

What would Grime have to gain from being biased ?

WHY WOULD HE BE BIASED ?

and don't repeat the claptrap of the Mccanns being framed, they weren't.

Don't worry, it's a running theme with Ferryman.

I just don't know why he has not thrust himself forward as an expert defence witness whenever and wherever Grime has gone to court for the FBI.

Offline Albertini

Re: Re: The deployment of the cadaver dogs revisited.
« Reply #37 on: September 02, 2013, 11:57:38 PM »
Mark Harrison disowned uk involvement in both inspections at the villa and the gym and the inspection of the vehicles.

He owned UK involvement in the inspections he recommended: areas in and around PdL, the holiday apartments and the Murat's place.

So 50% he disowned and 50% he owned.

Can you provide evidence that Harrison "disowned" involvement?

ferryman

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Re: Re: The deployment of the cadaver dogs revisited.
« Reply #38 on: September 03, 2013, 07:35:12 AM »
Can you provide evidence that Harrison "disowned" involvement?

I have done so on countless occasions.

Not that you want to be educated, but for your education, I will do so again:

Harrison's summary of searches:

 The timeline of these searches was as follows:

 

On 31-07-07 the PJ conducted canine searches with a search warrant at apartments in Praia da Luz that had been previously occupied by the McCanns and their friends.

 

On 01-08-07 the PJ and GNR assisted by a canine, conducted searches on the eastern beach and wasteland in Praia da Luz.

 

On 02-08-07 the PJ conducted a search warrant at a villa in Praia da Luz currently occupied by the McCann family.

 

Later the same day PJ officers conducted a screening procedure involving items removed from the McCann’s villa.

 

On 03-08-07 PJ and GNR officers were given instruction based on translated extracts from NPIA doctrine on search management and procedures. This focused on search procedures relating to buildings and vehicles.

 

On 04-08-07 and 05-08-07 a search warrant was executed at the villa and gardens belonging to the PJ suspect Robert Murat. This search involved both PJ and GNR personnel supported by civil defence, geophysical equipment operators and a canine handler.

 

On 06-08-07 ten vehicles were searched associated to the enquiry.

 

On 07-08-07 the western beach and remaining wasteland areas were searched using canine and GNR personnel.

 

On 08-08-07 the drains around the apartment block where Madeleine McCann disappeared from were subject to a visual inspection by PJ officers.


Those searches Harrison recommended, he owns UK participation: the holiday apartments, areas in and around PdL and the Murats' place

That's it!

Both inspections at villa and gym are summarised without description as PJ exercises.

And while Harrison recommended an inspection of vehicles, his recommendation was that (sic) All vehicles owned or driven by Murat should be inspected.

There were 3.

One (a vehicle Murat hired) never made the line-up; while 7 Harrison never said anything about did.

Still more bizarre, those 7 were owned or driven by people never arguidos in the case.

And why did Harrison wait until after the inspection at the gym before issuing PJ personnel translated NPIA literature on how to conduct searches in buildings and vehicles? ....

Offline Albertini

Re: Re: The deployment of the cadaver dogs revisited.
« Reply #39 on: September 03, 2013, 08:14:56 AM »
I have done so on countless occasions.

Not that you want to be educated, but for your education, I will do so again:

Harrison's summary of searches:

 The timeline of these searches was as follows:

 

On 31-07-07 the PJ conducted canine searches with a search warrant at apartments in Praia da Luz that had been previously occupied by the McCanns and their friends.

 

On 01-08-07 the PJ and GNR assisted by a canine, conducted searches on the eastern beach and wasteland in Praia da Luz.

 

On 02-08-07 the PJ conducted a search warrant at a villa in Praia da Luz currently occupied by the McCann family.

 

Later the same day PJ officers conducted a screening procedure involving items removed from the McCann’s villa.

 

On 03-08-07 PJ and GNR officers were given instruction based on translated extracts from NPIA doctrine on search management and procedures. This focused on search procedures relating to buildings and vehicles.

 

On 04-08-07 and 05-08-07 a search warrant was executed at the villa and gardens belonging to the PJ suspect Robert Murat. This search involved both PJ and GNR personnel supported by civil defence, geophysical equipment operators and a canine handler.

 

On 06-08-07 ten vehicles were searched associated to the enquiry.

 

On 07-08-07 the western beach and remaining wasteland areas were searched using canine and GNR personnel.

 

On 08-08-07 the drains around the apartment block where Madeleine McCann disappeared from were subject to a visual inspection by PJ officers.


Those searches Harrison recommended, he owns UK participation: the holiday apartments, areas in and around PdL and the Murats' place

That's it!

Both inspections at villa and gym are summarised without description as PJ exercises.

And while Harrison recommended an inspection of vehicles, his recommendation was that (sic) All vehicles owned or driven by Murat should be inspected.

There were 3.

One (a vehicle Murat hired) never made the line-up; while 7 Harrison never said anything about did.

Still more bizarre, those 7 were owned or driven by people never arguidos in the case.

And why did Harrison wait until after the inspection at the gym before issuing PJ personnel translated NPIA literature on how to conduct searches in buildings and vehicles? ....

Ok, so how have you drawn "disowned" from all that then??

ferryman

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Re: Re: The deployment of the cadaver dogs revisited.
« Reply #40 on: September 03, 2013, 08:30:24 AM »
I knew you wouldn't be intelligent enough to understand/

You didn't disappoint ...

Fairly early in his first report, Harrison spelt out his terms of reference:

This report considers solely the possibility that Madeleine McCann has been murdered and her body is concealed within the areas previously searched by Police in Zone 1 around Praia Da Luz. Other scenarios or possibilities may on request be considered and be subject of a further report.

In a further edit, I will post how he deviated from that ...

Penultimate sentence of Harrison's third and final report:

I am currently of the opinion on the available information and statistical datasets that if death has occurred, that it is possible that Madeleine McCann’s body has been disposed into the sea at Praia da Luz. (See my second report entitled “NPIA OP TASK Search Doc Beach and Marine”).

Amaral's depiction of Harrison's role in the investigation is eye-wash and one of the reasons he is very highly likely to lose the libel trial ...
« Last Edit: September 03, 2013, 08:41:46 AM by ferryman »

stephen25000

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Re: Re: The deployment of the cadaver dogs revisited.
« Reply #41 on: September 03, 2013, 08:43:21 AM »
I knew you wouldn't be intelligent enough to understand/

You didn't disappoint ...

Fairly early in his first report, Harrison spelt out his terms of reference:

This report considers solely the possibility that Madeleine McCann has been murdered and her body is concealed within the areas previously searched by Police in Zone 1 around Praia Da Luz. Other scenarios or possibilities may on request be considered and be subject of a further report.

In a further edit, I will post how he deviated from that ...

Penultimate sentence of Harrison's third and final report:

I am currently of the opinion on the available information and statistical datasets that if death has occurred, that it is possible that Madeleine McCann’s body has been disposed into the sea at Praia da Luz. (See my second report entitled “NPIA OP TASK Search Doc Beach and Marine”).

Amaral's depiction of Harrison's role in the investigation is eye-wash and one of the reasons he is very highly likely to lose the libel trial ...

....solely the possibility that Madeleine McCann has been murdered'

What about the scenario of accidental death ?

ferryman

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Re: Re: The deployment of the cadaver dogs revisited.
« Reply #42 on: September 03, 2013, 08:44:34 AM »
....solely the possibility that Madeleine McCann has been murdered'

What about the scenario of accidental death ?

Ask Harrison.  He never considered that.

stephen25000

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Re: Re: The deployment of the cadaver dogs revisited.
« Reply #43 on: September 03, 2013, 08:51:23 AM »
Ask Harrison.  He never considered that.

Why not ?

ferryman

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Re: Re: The deployment of the cadaver dogs revisited.
« Reply #44 on: September 03, 2013, 08:57:28 AM »
Why not ?

Because he wasn't asked to.

He was asked to consider that Madeleine had been murdered and did so.

Did we get the reason why Amaral lied that no one talked about murder?