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Alleged Miscarriages of Justice => Luke Mitchell and the murder of his teenage girfriend Jodi Jones on 30 June 2003. => Topic started by: TruthSeeker2003 on May 30, 2021, 02:03:38 PM
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We have all been watching this troop of YouTube star wannabes. Sharon Indy Sunshine, Danielle Bbarclay and Kenny O’Hara. Continue to do video after video on the Luke Mitchell case. It is clear by the way their group members are talking about the group's admin and their inflated egos that they have lost sight of the reason why they started their campaign. They are all desperately vying for adulation and praise. It is clear that they all hope to become famous off the back of Luke Mitchell's miscarriage of justice and the death of 14 year old Jodi Jones. In their latest series of narcissistic indulgence they debunk misinformation printed by mainstream media. It is clear they they have gone to far in their quest for fame. A whole episode was dedicated to Daily Record Crime Reporter Jane Hamilton. Jane Hamilton has printed many disparaging articles about Luke in the past. This has enraged many of the Luke supporters. So much so that a member from “the official “ Facebook group has been charged for sending her death threats. It seems the desperate need for fame is driving the group admin to reach their goals by any means necessary.
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And yet, Dr. Lean denies Jane Hamilton was threatened. Didn't someone threaten to set JH on fire or similar?
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And yet, Dr. Lean denies Jane Hamilton was threatened. Didn't someone threaten to set JH on fire or similar?
When asked about the threats to set Jane Hamilton on fire Sandra Leans exact words were,
“Nobody threatened anybody”
Which goes to show what a bare faced liar she is *&^^&
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When asked about the threats to set Jane Hamilton on fire Sandra Leans exact words were,
“Nobody threatened anybody”
Which goes to show what a bare faced liar she is *&^^&
I read a Tweet by Jane Hamilton when it happened and I don't doubt JH.
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I read a Tweet by Jane Hamilton when it happened and I don't doubt JH.
I saw the actual threat
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I saw the actual threat
Was it via Twitter or Facebook? Not that I want to see it. I just saw JH's reaction to the threat on Twitter via a Google link. It's an absolutely vile thing to say and it's a vile thing to deny it happened or defend it. The person responsible has to take responsibility and I hope the charges aren't dropped. If the outcome is a guilty verdict then I hope the punishment is in keeping with the threat.That's not the kind of thing that someone who is safe to be around says.
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I saw the actual threat
FS was telling the truth then? Sandra publicly refuted the calling it lies.
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Was it via Twitter or Facebook? Not that I want to see it. I just saw JH's reaction to the threat on Twitter via a Google link. It's an absolutely vile thing to say and it's a vile thing to deny it happened or defend it. The person responsible has to take responsibility and I hope the charges aren't dropped. If the outcome is a guilty verdict then I hope the punishment is in keeping with the threat.That's not the kind of thing that someone who is safe to be around says.
Facebook
“This month I had to contact police over a sinister threatening comment about me on Facebook.”
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E2ieMc7XEBQm4Jn?format=jpg&name=large)
https://twitter.com/janehamilton22/status/1398541628294549504
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FS was telling the truth then? Sandra publicly refuted the calling it lies.
What Sandra Lean said was,
‘nobody threatened anybody”
After Fiona Scott asked,
“Why did one of the official get charged with threatening to set Hamilton on fire? Did they ask you if they could put that video out then?’ (Sic)
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Was it via Twitter or Facebook? Not that I want to see it. I just saw JH's reaction to the threat on Twitter via a Google link. It's an absolutely vile thing to say and it's a vile thing to deny it happened or defend it. The person responsible has to take responsibility and I hope the charges aren't dropped. If the outcome is a guilty verdict then I hope the punishment is in keeping with the threat.That's not the kind of thing that someone who is safe to be around says.
The ‘sinister threatening’ comment appears to have been made around the time people were also posting about Johnny boy Steele or Johnny boy Steele was regularly posting
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glasgow_Ice_Cream_Wars
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I saw the actual threat
Sharon Indy Sunshine. Posted this afternoon
Rules and guidance for members.
Welcome to the Jodi Jones and Luke Mitchell-Who got justice? The official group!
Thank you for choosing to fight for Jodi and Luke. As the official group working for Luke Mitchell, I can tell you he truly appreciates your support. With that said, we do lay out some ground rules to ensure this group works as it’s intended and Luke’s exoneration is at the centre of everyone’s hearts and minds.
Those rules are as follows
1. No bullying, harassment or inappropriate comments targeted at each other.
2. Be respectful towards others opinions as we all have our thoughts regarding the case.
3. Please refrain from posting speculation (especially names) as it is doing exactly what we criticise the media for doing to Luke.
*We want the group to be a source of information on the case and not clouded with false accusations and name dropping.
4. No posting images of people involved in the case as your post will be removed and if we see any similar/repeated posts on other threads these will also be removed.
*Again, it would be hypocritical to post images of others whilst condemning the media for defaming Luke's character in the same way.
5. Don't add news articles, as every click on the link funds the very people who helped to put Luke in prison. You are welcome to screenshot the story and add them.
6. Refrain from making unfounded accusations about Jodi or Luke's family. such as speculating what you would or would not do in their circumstances; everyone acts differently in tragic circumstances. It's time for compassion facts and the truth.
7. Please avoid messaging Dr Sandra Lean directly for group business as she’s inundated with other messages and is extremely busy with the case. Avoid tagging her on posts as she is not going to see it. Tagged posts will be removed unless they are part of an active conversation Dr Sandra Lean is engaging in.
8. Give more to this group than you take. Self-promotion, spam and irrelevant links aren't allowed.
Adding the same post on several threads will result in the comments being deleted.
Videos for educational purposes by the team are permitted, and certain other ones at the discretion of the team.
9. We sincerely hope that we don’t have to but if we find anyone going outside of our expectations, you will leave us no alternative but to remove you from the group at our discretion to maintain a safe and positive environment.
A safe and positive environment? 🤔 &^^&* *&^^& %56&
I am sure that JH would disagree with that.
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Sharon Indy Sunshine. Posted this afternoon
Rules and guidance for members.
Welcome to the Jodi Jones and Luke Mitchell-Who got justice? The official group!
Thank you for choosing to fight for Jodi and Luke. As the official group working for Luke Mitchell, I can tell you he truly appreciates your support. With that said, we do lay out some ground rules to ensure this group works as it’s intended and Luke’s exoneration is at the centre of everyone’s hearts and minds.
Those rules are as follows
1. No bullying, harassment or inappropriate comments targeted at each other.
2. Be respectful towards others opinions as we all have our thoughts regarding the case.
3. Please refrain from posting speculation (especially names) as it is doing exactly what we criticise the media for doing to Luke.
*We want the group to be a source of information on the case and not clouded with false accusations and name dropping.
4. No posting images of people involved in the case as your post will be removed and if we see any similar/repeated posts on other threads these will also be removed.
*Again, it would be hypocritical to post images of others whilst condemning the media for defaming Luke's character in the same way.
5. Don't add news articles, as every click on the link funds the very people who helped to put Luke in prison. You are welcome to screenshot the story and add them.
6. Refrain from making unfounded accusations about Jodi or Luke's family. such as speculating what you would or would not do in their circumstances; everyone acts differently in tragic circumstances. It's time for compassion facts and the truth.
7. Please avoid messaging Dr Sandra Lean directly for group business as she’s inundated with other messages and is extremely busy with the case. Avoid tagging her on posts as she is not going to see it. Tagged posts will be removed unless they are part of an active conversation Dr Sandra Lean is engaging in.
8. Give more to this group than you take. Self-promotion, spam and irrelevant links aren't allowed.
Adding the same post on several threads will result in the comments being deleted.
Videos for educational purposes by the team are permitted, and certain other ones at the discretion of the team.
9. We sincerely hope that we don’t have to but if we find anyone going outside of our expectations, you will leave us no alternative but to remove you from the group at our discretion to maintain a safe and positive environment.
A safe and positive environment? 🤔 &^^&* *&^^& %56&
I am sure that JH would disagree with that.
Is that a Facebook Group?
Can see the Jones family objecting to Jodi's name being used in that way.
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Yes! I absolutely agree there!
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Is that a Facebook Group?
Can see the Jones family objecting to Jodi's name being used in that way.
Sharon Indy sunshine doesn’t care about Jodi Jones or any of her family
I suspect running the Facebook group and doing the YouTube videos for killers Brendan Dassey and Luke Mitchell gives her life purpose
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She wants to be the Scottish equivalent of “making a murder” in the fame stakes.
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She wants to be the Scottish equivalent of “making a murder” in the fame stakes.
What she wants to do is stop putting her dog in a locked cage and start taking it out for regular walks
*&^^&
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Sharon Indy Sunshine -post in the official group
Which part of the case are you most confident about when debating with others?
She's definitely confident about something (&^&
It's not facts that is for sure (&^&
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Sharon Indy Sunshine
A room is currently open if anyone wants to talk about the case, you will be on camera but don't be shy It is just with your other group folk, we are all probably in pjs with lockdown hair. So don't fret 🥰 its just like a messenger chat not live or recorded.
https://www.facebook.com/groups/1105688556511863/permalink/1186654175081967/
Anything to get her face on camera 🙄🙄🙄
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Sharon Indy Sunshine
A room is currently open if anyone wants to talk about the case, you will be on camera but don't be shy It is just with your other group folk, we are all probably in pjs with lockdown hair. So don't fret 🥰 its just like a messenger chat not live or recorded.
https://www.facebook.com/groups/1105688556511863/permalink/1186654175081967/
Anything to get her face on camera 🙄🙄🙄
I feel sorry for her dog
I don’t like listening to it crying
then her apologising about the dog to camera
then telling everyone she’s going to put it in its cage *&^^&
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I feel sorry for her dog
I don’t like listening to it crying
then her apologising about the dog to camera
then telling everyone she’s going to put it in its cage *&^^&
I say we put Sunny Sharon in the cage and let the dog do the podcasts!
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I say we put Sunny Sharon in the cage and let the dog do the podcasts!
For me - she wants to show her dog some respect before asking it of others *&^^&
Sharon Indy Sunshine
‘I have been thinking if people want to have their say in a respectable way they can leave me a voice note on LUKE'S Smjw and i can add them together on a video. Real people real voices real opinions.
Just follow the group rules for these as we still need to maintain a certain standard to protect Luke case.
You can send a few different ones with different points that you may want to make.
I would love to hear all of the comments on a few videos it would be a very powerful thing. I really hope you guys will help. 🥰
I can keep your names out of it or credit you it's up to you.
Thanks for reading this and for all of your support.
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I say we put Sunny Sharon in the cage and let the dog do the podcasts!
Have you heard her dog yelp out whilst she’s sat there in front of the camera doing the YouTube videos ?
It’s happened several times now and each time she grins for the camera and says she has to put it in it’s cage *&^^&
Poor thing
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Sharon Indy Sunshine
‘I have been thinking if people want to have their say in a respectable way they can leave me a voice note on LUKE'S Smjw and i can add them together on a video. Real people real voices real opinions.
Just follow the group rules for these as we still need to maintain a certain standard to protect Luke case.
You can send a few different ones with different points that you may want to make.
I would love to hear all of the comments on a few videos it would be a very powerful thing. I really hope you guys will help. 🥰
I can keep your names out of it or credit you it's up to you.
Thanks for reading this and for all of your support.
Is she for real 🙄
And is this what Sandra Lean tells her?
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For me - she wants to show her dog some respect before asking it of others *&^^&
Sharon Indy Sunshine
‘I have been thinking if people want to have their say in a respectable way they can leave me a voice note on LUKE'S Smjw and i can add them together on a video. Real people real voices real opinions.
Just follow the group rules for these as we still need to maintain a certain standard to protect Luke case.
You can send a few different ones with different points that you may want to make.
I would love to hear all of the comments on a few videos it would be a very powerful thing. I really hope you guys will help. 🥰
I can keep your names out of it or credit you it's up to you.
Thanks for reading this and for all of your support.
I'd certainly like to have my say. Wonder if I'd be allowed on?
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I'd certainly like to have my say. Wonder if I'd be allowed on?
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Could you ‘maintain a certain standard’ ?
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Have you heard her dog yelp out whilst she’s sat there in front of the camera doing the YouTube videos ?
It’s happened several times now and each time she grins for the camera and says she has to put it in it’s cage *&^^&
Poor thing
No I haven't. I didn't know she had a dog. I have tried to watch her podcasts but I find it really difficult to watch.
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For me - she wants to show her dog some respect before asking it of others *&^^&
Sharon Indy Sunshine
‘I have been thinking if people want to have their say in a respectable way they can leave me a voice note on LUKE'S Smjw and i can add them together on a video. Real people real voices real opinions.
Just follow the group rules for these as we still need to maintain a certain standard to protect Luke case.
You can send a few different ones with different points that you may want to make.
I would love to hear all of the comments on a few videos it would be a very powerful thing. I really hope you guys will help. 🥰
I can keep your names out of it or credit you it's up to you.
Thanks for reading this and for all of your support.
From 29th March 2021 ⬇️
Sharon Indy Sunshine
💥 Social Media Justice Warriors 💥
‘We need people who are willing to volunteer to use their own snapchat, insta, fb, Twitter, youtube etc to help Luke (or start a new one for him).
You are all an amazing bunch of talented people who are so dedicated to helping.
So what better way than to tag kkw on Twitter or someone else on Instagram? We need you guys and you really can make a difference.
Remember the media hate Luke. So he needs us, his Social Media Justice Warriors to keep his story out there.
They want us to go away. should we??
They want to shut us up. Are you going to let them?
They want to get away with it. Do you want to shine a light on what they did?
#justiceforlukemitchell
Any post not about the above questions with be removed ❌
*&^^&
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From 29th March 2021 ⬇️
Sharon Indy Sunshine
💥 Social Media Justice Warriors 💥
‘We need people who are willing to volunteer to use their own snapchat, insta, fb, Twitter, youtube etc to help Luke (or start a new one for him).
You are all an amazing bunch of talented people who are so dedicated to helping.
So what better way than to tag kkw on Twitter or someone else on Instagram? We need you guys and you really can make a difference.
Remember the media hate Luke. So he needs us, his Social Media Justice Warriors to keep his story out there.
They want us to go away. should we??
They want to shut us up. Are you going to let them?
They want to get away with it. Do you want to shine a light on what they did?
#justiceforlukemitchell
Any post not about the above questions with be removed ❌
*&^^&
From 29th March 2021 ⬇️
Sharon Indy Sunshine
💥 Social Media Justice Warriors 💥
‘We need people who are willing to volunteer to use their own snapchat, insta, fb, Twitter, youtube etc to help Luke (or start a new one for him).
You are all an amazing bunch of talented people who are so dedicated to helping.
So what better way than to tag kkw on Twitter or someone else on Instagram? We need you guys and you really can make a difference.
Remember the media hate Luke. So he needs us, his Social Media Justice Warriors to keep his story out there.
They want us to go away. should we??
They want to shut us up. Are you going to let them?
They want to get away with it. Do you want to shine a light on what they did?
#justiceforlukemitchell
Any post not about the above questions with be removed ❌
*&^^&
Sharon Sunny Sunshine needs to put her talents to good use and do Avon!!
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Sharon Sunny Sunshine needs to put her talents to good use and do Avon!!
Maybe if you didn’t spend your time trolling her you’d be able to do something worthwhile too?
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I have never once replied to her or even watched a podcast after 5 minutes because it's unbearable so maybe you should stop trolling me! Accusing me of things I have never done is a desperate look.
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Maybe if you didn’t spend your time trolling her you’d be able to do something worthwhile too?
The above is for you, faithlilly.
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The above is for you, faithlilly.
Ouch…that hurt !
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Ouch…that hurt !
If sarcasm is your only shot and best shot then you're going to be easy.
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If sarcasm is your only shot and best shot then you're going to be easy.
In what way easy? Could you be a little more precise? I
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In what way easy? Could you be a little more precise? I
Tomorrow, faithlilly.
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Could you ‘maintain a certain standard’ ?
I may have to up their bar a bit to the minimal decent standard but I'm sure we could work something out 8(0(*
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Posted today on the ‘unofficial’ LM Facebook page by Lisa C Reynolds Peden ⬇️
THIS STATEMENT IS FROM LUKE AND CORINNE:
‘I have spoken to Luke and Corinne both their wishes are that everyone who is able to, attends the protest on the 17th of July in Edinburgh! They are both one hundred percent behind this group and the protest that's been organised! Luke has spoken to people the last few days and made it very clear that he will not allow ANYONE to speak for him anymore. He is a man now and will not stay in the background and longer. He has dealt with the person/people who have been telling people not to attend this protest because it wasn't organised by the 'official' group. This is not Luke's wishes and the protest is 100% legal. Luke has made it clear that the Free and retry Luke Mitchell group has his full backing and support. They I will now be posting all statements from Luke via myself.
Also they wish that all the group's come together and that any previous issues are put to bed! Luke has said that he doesn't want animosity between the groups, everyone on these groups are supposed to be here for one reason only and should all be fighting for the same cause! Luke is in charge of his life from now NO ONE ELSE!! He has taken a back seat for far too long and isn't doing it anymore.
*If you are attending any protests please wear a mask and follow all covid guide lines that are in place on the date of the protest.*
Luke and Corinne thank everyone on this group! The support is absolutely amazing! From the bonus ball tickets to raising awareness and being involved and organising two protests! It's all greatly appreciated! All money this group has raised goes directly into a bank account for Corinne.
Luke does not want photos of Jodi distributed for his fight for justice, this is insensitive to Jodis family and friends, and creates bad press for him. It is not and has never been Luke's wishes for us to find the real killer. Our job is to get Luke free and home to his mum. For anyone else to be investigated and/or charged Luke must be acquitted first.
Luke has also advised Sandra that all documents that have been withheld from the public for years be released immediately. He has been too concerned about upsetting other people, and following other wishes,but has lost his childhood, teenage years and adolescence. He will not stand for this anymore.
Luke appreciates your support and welcomes future peaceful protests and any other means of support which are within the law. All ideas from ANY groups MUST be ran by Luke in the first instance before anything is done.
Also Luke has made it very clear that the 'official' group does not speak for him nor has it ever. If you have any questions or would like to run anything by Luke please message myself as I am in daily contact with Corinne and every two days with Luke.
THANK YOU EVERYONE FOR YOUR CONTINUED SUPPORT AND HELPING ME FIGHT FOR MY FREEDOM!! BIG THINGS ARE COMING!!
Luke and Corinne have gave me permission to share with this group some pictures from his childhood. These pictures are not in the public domain. So keep your eyes peeled, I will post one later today!
💞💞💞
#lukemitchellisinnocent #freelukemitchell
George Fergie
‘Glad this is out now, a felt so persecuted for myself and the whole team that run this group, let’s get everyone on the same page, no more fighting against each other guys let’s be one like Luke and corrine want
George Fergie
‘Guys we will not tolerate abuse regarding Luke’s statement , if it persists it’ll be straight blocks , sorry but it’s time to move on , there’s an open invitation to anyone who wants to go to the Geo Protest and that includes all other groups and pages, it’s Luke and corrines will to do it all together so division will no longer be tolerated
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Posted today on the ‘unofficial’ LM Facebook page by Lisa C Reynolds Peden ⬇️
THIS STATEMENT IS FROM LUKE AND CORINNE:
Which suggest the ‘official’ LM Facebook isn’t Luke Mitchell’s ‘official’ page after all 🙄
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THIS STATEMENT IS FROM LUKE AND CORINNE:
‘Luke does not want photos of Jodi distributed for his fight for justice, this is insensitive to Jodis family and friends, and
Will there be a comment from Stephanie Nicol on this?
11th June 2021 ⬇️
Stephanie Nicol
‘My street was looking a bit plain so I decorated it with a call for Justice...
#justiceforjodijones
Sandra Lean
‘Fantastic, Stephanie!!!! Such a lovely picture of Jodi.
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Say what? - Where is the new legal team? The researchers? And why is CM not attending this march herself? I think someone is playing silly b....rs are they not? Luke Mitchell has been an adult for several years now.
This comes across as nothing short of a massive slap across the face towards Ms Lean? Has she been lying around the legal team? One can surely not jump from everything going to a legal team to now being released to the public via this other group In a matter of days.
Or has the new team in effect being these new found campaigners?
Wonder when Ms Lean will make a public statement on this? - someone is lying here?
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Will there be a comment from Stephanie Nicol on this?
11th June 2021 ⬇️
Stephanie Nicol
‘My street was looking a bit plain so I decorated it with a call for Justice...
#justiceforjodijones
Sandra Lean
‘Fantastic, Stephanie!!!! Such a lovely picture of Jodi.
Excerpt from a post made by Stephanie Nicol on the ‘official’ LM Facebook page
Stephanie Nicol
‘A Jury should have everything available in order to decide whether to commit somebody to a life behind bars. Not to do so is an injustice not just to Luke and/or Jodi but to every one of us.
I say that as somebody who has been to court as a witness/victim, had a Guilty verdict and the law said that because there was no corroborating charge, he gets let free.
That is not Justice. This is not Justice.
Danielle Barclay
‘I remember not even realising these miscarriages of justice and wrongful accusations and convictions was a thing...then it happened to someone i love. From leaving court after 3 days I just knew that people need other people in these situations and the people who do help (like this group) are the most selfless people ever. I never want anyone to feel and experience that. I will help any way i can to stop this from happening to anyone else. It's wrong and this criminal justice system needs to be turned upside down and changed. It is not good enough for us the people.
Fighting for Luke and Jodi justice is fighting for the 100s of others who are facing the same thing. People need people.
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Lets hope the legal team do their stuff whoever they are. A lot talk the talk in the beginning and end up not doing all they promise.
It seems like a tug of war at the moment which cannot be good for anyone.
Without Sandra Lean keeping this case highlighted most people in either group wouldn't be involved now .
Huge slap in the face. miscarriage of justice world brings out all sorts of people not always with the best of intentions
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Posted today on the ‘unofficial’ LM Facebook page by Lisa C Reynolds Peden ⬇️
THIS STATEMENT IS FROM LUKE AND CORINNE:
‘Luke has also advised Sandra that all documents that have been withheld from the public for years be released immediately. He has been too concerned about upsetting other people, and following other wishes,but has lost his childhood, teenage years and adolescence. He will not stand for this anymore.
‘Also Luke has made it very clear that the 'official' group does not speak for him nor has it ever. If you have any questions or would like to run anything by Luke please message myself as I am in daily contact with Corinne and every two days with Luke.
Sandra Lean
There won't be a live today - I didn't get a response from Luke in time to talk about the updates I wanted to cover today - hopefully, I'll be able to speak with him early next week. Have a great Sunday!
Sandra Lean has now had a public reply from killer Luke Mitchell
Will she ‘release’ all documents as he has requested ?
Will Luke and Corinne Mitchell’s police statements finally be published - in full - to the WWW ?
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Posted today on the ‘unofficial’ LM Facebook page by Lisa C Reynolds Peden ⬇️
On 30th April 2021 Lisa C Reynolds Peden posted the following
’So in the book it states that Ju J, Ja J and AW confirmed categorically that there was no grounding in place on the night of June 30th. Ja J remembered the specific start date of the four week punishment as beginning on May 14th, because she had an exam that day and, arriving home early, discovered the Jodi had skipped school. Ju J told police that because Jodi had been going to woodburn in recent weeks, she needed the "extra time" (i.e. ten o'clock curfew) for the additional traveling. The friend Jodi met with in woodburn was on holiday the week of the murder, therefore, the grounding had to have been lifted before then - according to Ja J recollection, it was finished by 12th June. AW said simply that the punishment had petered out until things returned to normal "a few weeks ago".
Although Jodi was at Luke's house on the 28th of June and they had got carried away and lost track of time. So a taxi was called to make sure Jodi got home in time. Luke gave Jodi the fair for this.
Luke still believed Jodi to be grounded, although she was allowed to his house on the Saturday! So sometimes Jodi's grounding would have random days break mixed in?!
So if her grounding stopped on the 12th on June and not the 30th, who was Jodi hanging around with? Who was she meeting up with after school? And what were they doing? Why didn't she tell Luke about the grounding being lifted until these texts that supposedly Jodi sent to Luke from her mum's phone? It's been referred to time and time again that Jodi was the 'other' woman as Luke was having an 'affair' but what if in real fact Luke was the 'other' guy and it was really Jodi who was having an 'affair'! 🤷🏻♀️🤔🧐
Does the above ⬆️ stem from Luke or Corinne Mitchell or both?
According to another Facebook post by Lisa C Reynolds Peden she speaks to Corinne Mitchell every day and Luke Mitchell every two days
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Posted today on the ‘unofficial’ LM Facebook page by Lisa C Reynolds Peden ⬇️
Lisa C Reynolds Peden
‘Obviously in time he wants the killer brought to justice. But Luke needs to be acquitted first because while he's in prison they will not even look at anyone else! He wants his name completely cleared.
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Lisa C Reynolds Peden
‘Obviously in time he wants the killer brought to justice. But Luke needs to be acquitted first because while he's in prison they will not even look at anyone else! He wants his name completely cleared.
Does anyone believe they will actually look for the real killer(s) if Luke manages to clear his name
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miscarriage of justice
This is a clear case of innocence fraud
With killer Luke Mitchell behaving in his usual highly narcissistic manner just days before another anniversary of [Name removed]’s murder
He’s clearly again attempting to put himself front and centre stage and ghost Jodi *&^^&
Not dissimilar to how he bahaved on the day of [Name removed]’s funeral
This also shows Corinne Mitchell was talking BS about being ‘tricked by the media’ on that day
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Does anyone believe they will actually look for the real killer(s) if Luke manages to clear his name
Luke Mitchell is the real killer!
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This is a clear case of innocence fraud
With killer Luke Mitchell behaving in his usual highly narcissistic manner just days before another anniversary of [Name removed]’s murder
He’s clearly again attempting to put himself front and centre stage and ghost Jodi *&^^&
Not dissimilar to how he bahved on the day of [Name removed]’s funeral
This also shows Corinne Mitchell was talking BS about being ‘tricked by the media’ on that day
I'm not sure what has gone on.. all seems very strange I guess only time will tell
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Say what? - Where is the new legal team? The researchers? And why is CM not attending this march herself? I think someone is playing silly b....rs are they not? Luke Mitchell has been an adult for several years now.
This comes across as nothing short of a massive slap across the face towards Ms Lean? Has she been lying around the legal team? One can surely not jump from everything going to a legal team to now being released to the public via this other group In a matter of days.
Or has the new team in effect being these new found campaigners?
Wonder when Ms Lean will make a public statement on this? - someone is lying here?
Typical guilty killer behaviour
And Sandra Lean will have experienced this behaviour from Luke & Corinne Mitchell for many years - You only need look back at some of the public statements made back in 2014 - at a time when Sandra Lean told me she thought Luke might be guilty and his mother covering for him (Or words to the effect of..)
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Posted today on the ‘unofficial’ LM Facebook page by Lisa C Reynolds Peden ⬇️
THIS STATEMENT IS FROM LUKE AND CORINNE:
‘I have spoken to Luke and Corinne both their wishes are that everyone who is able to, attends the protest on the 17th of July in Edinburgh! They are both one hundred percent behind this group and the protest that's been organised! Luke has spoken to people the last few days and made it very clear that he will not allow ANYONE to speak for him anymore. He is a man now and will not stay in the background and longer. He has dealt with the person/people who have been telling people not to attend this protest because it wasn't organised by the 'official' group. This is not Luke's wishes and the protest is 100% legal. Luke has made it clear that the Free and retry Luke Mitchell group has his full backing and support. They I will now be posting all statements from Luke via myself.
Also they wish that all the group's come together and that any previous issues are put to bed! Luke has said that he doesn't want animosity between the groups, everyone on these groups are supposed to be here for one reason only and should all be fighting for the same cause! Luke is in charge of his life from now NO ONE ELSE!! He has taken a back seat for far too long and isn't doing it anymore.
*If you are attending any protests please wear a mask and follow all covid guide lines that are in place on the date of the protest.*
Luke and Corinne thank everyone on this group! The support is absolutely amazing! From the bonus ball tickets to raising awareness and being involved and organising two protests! It's all greatly appreciated! All money this group has raised goes directly into a bank account for Corinne.
Luke does not want photos of Jodi distributed for his fight for justice, this is insensitive to Jodis family and friends, and creates bad press for him. It is not and has never been Luke's wishes for us to find the real killer. Our job is to get Luke free and home to his mum. For anyone else to be investigated and/or charged Luke must be acquitted first.
Luke has also advised Sandra that all documents that have been withheld from the public for years be released immediately. He has been too concerned about upsetting other people, and following other wishes,but has lost his childhood, teenage years and adolescence. He will not stand for this anymore.
Luke appreciates your support and welcomes future peaceful protests and any other means of support which are within the law. All ideas from ANY groups MUST be ran by Luke in the first instance before anything is done.
Also Luke has made it very clear that the 'official' group does not speak for him nor has it ever. If you have any questions or would like to run anything by Luke please message myself as I am in daily contact with Corinne and every two days with Luke.
THANK YOU EVERYONE FOR YOUR CONTINUED SUPPORT AND HELPING ME FIGHT FOR MY FREEDOM!! BIG THINGS ARE COMING!!
Luke and Corinne have gave me permission to share with this group some pictures from his childhood. These pictures are not in the public domain. So keep your eyes peeled, I will post one later today!
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#lukemitchellisinnocent #freelukemitchell
George Fergie
‘Glad this is out now, a felt so persecuted for myself and the whole team that run this group, let’s get everyone on the same page, no more fighting against each other guys let’s be one like Luke and corrine want
George Fergie
‘Guys we will not tolerate abuse regarding Luke’s statement , if it persists it’ll be straight blocks , sorry but it’s time to move on , there’s an open invitation to anyone who wants to go to the Geo Protest and that includes all other groups and pages, it’s Luke and corrines will to do it all together so division will no longer be tolerated
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Power struggling going on is there?
So come on Sandra, get these case files you have uploaded online. IMMEDIATELY @)(++(* @)(++(* @)(++(*
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Luke Mitchell has been an adult for several years now.
He appears to be exerting his psychopathic ‘power & control’ nature via Lisa C Reynolds Peden *&^^&
And I’ve long suspected Sandra Lean has been attempting to present him in a different way for many years
Sandra said things had been ‘stressful’ during her last live video
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Power struggling going on is there?
So come on Sandra, get these case files you have uploaded online. IMMEDIATELY @)(++(* @)(++(* @)(++(*
Looks that way to me
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So come on Sandra, get these case files you have uploaded online. IMMEDIATELY @)(++(* @)(++(* @)(++(*
I don’t think Sandra Lean will be ‘uploading’ any of these case files online do you
What will the contents of these files do to her and her books narrative ?
She clearly wants those case files to go into a lawyer - where their hands will be tied
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I don’t think Sandra Lean will be ‘uploading’ any of these case files online do you
What will the contents of these files do to her and her books narrative ?
She clearly wants those case files to go into a lawyer - where their hands will be tied
Maybe Luke should arrange for someone to do that. I think over 18 years Sandra has done everything and more. People in the Facebook groups confuse being in a group to working on a case.
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George Fergie
‘Glad this is out now, a felt so persecuted for myself and the whole team that run this group, let’s get everyone on the same page, no more fighting against each other guys let’s be one like Luke and corrine want d
‘Let’s be one’
like the enmeshed relationship Luke & Corinne Mitchell appear to have?
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Does anyone believe they will actually look for the real killer(s) if Luke manages to clear his name
History tells us no. There’ll be a bland statement’ we are not looking for anyone in relation to this murder’ and all those who crucified Luke will still believe that he ‘dun it’ and Jodi will never receive justice.
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I don’t think Sandra Lean will be ‘uploading’ any of these case files online do you
What will the contents of these files do to her and her books narrative ?
She clearly wants those case files to go into a lawyer - where their hands will be tied
Not a chance. If she was going to do this, it would have been done many years ago. If all she needed was Luke's permission, well, she had that for years. But she also knows it would destroy her.
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George Fergie
‘Guys we will not tolerate abuse regarding Luke’s statement , if it persists it’ll be straight blocks , sorry but it’s time to move on , there’s an open invitation to anyone who wants to go to the Geo Protest and that includes all other groups and pages, it’s Luke and corrines will to do it all together so division will no longer be tolerate[/i]d[/color]
Katie Glass
‘I guess people feel a bit let down and made to feel like the underdogs and that was due to a minority not a majority-everyone feelings came into play and its hard not to feel resentful, I think, but, yeah time to rise above it and not let it get to anything childish like .
It looks like it has been 'nipped in the bud' and maybe some lessons learned.
Well done in getting it sorted.
I think some people wanted to be solely responsible in the release of Luke and glean the accolade that goes with it and that's not what it's about.
This level of fight to not be an underdog and equal is admirable 👏
United for Luke , Corrine and Jodi getting her own truth out.’
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History tells us no. There’ll be a bland statement’ we are not looking for anyone in relation to this murder’ and all those who crucified Luke will still believe that he ‘dun it’ and Jodi will never receive justice.
Sad but very true.
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Not a chance. If she was going to do this, it would have been done many years ago. If all she needed was Luke's permission, well, she had that for years. But she also knows it would destroy her.
She didn't have his permission though did she
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I don’t think Sandra Lean will be ‘uploading’ any of these case files online do you
What will the contents of these files do to her and her books narrative ?
She clearly wants those case files to go into a lawyer - where their hands will be tied
If Luke wants the files released logic dictates they will support his narrative.
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She didn't have his permission though did she
Did she have his permission but was refusing to release them into the public domain?
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If Luke wants the files released logic dictates they will support his narrative.
There can be several interpretations put on what has been said by Luke & Corinne Mitchell via Lisa C Reynolds Peden
Luke has also advised Sandra that all documents that have been withheld from the public for years be released immediately. He has been too concerned about upsetting other people, and following other wishes,but has lost his childhood, teenage years and adolescence. He will not stand for this anymore.
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Did she have his permission but was refusing to release them into the public domain?
If the statement is true and accurate Luke Indicates he hasn't given permission for whatever reasons not that Sandra Lean has blocked any attempt to do so. More will come out in regards to this and very soon I'm sure.
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She didn't have his permission though did she
Well, according to Luke's new pet Lisa. She has now. So let's get on with it, as in Luke's own words, Immediately.
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Well, according to Luke's new pet Lisa. She has now. So let's get on with it, as in Luke's own words, Immediately.
Yes clearly but it's good to stick to the facts and not just presume.
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13th June 2021
George Fergie
Guys today’s update was no surprise , we tried to work with Sandra but if fell flat, she’s directing all the rubbish to us and al take it, everything sandra is unhappy with was me not the team, firstly she says I misrepresented her by calling her the leader , I meant leader of the campaign and she assumed I meant leader of the group
She was unhappy we wanted to sell merch and donate it to Luke’s fund , found out later she actually wanted to do all the merch herself, a found that pretty odd but I agreed, then when I was pushing for Edinburgh protest to be arranged I was told we had to do it legal, notify all authorities etc and that Sandra would handle it, days turned into weeks and I was getting frustrated we were losing momentum , after that a zoom call was arranged but a wasn’t in the right mind to do it as a have mental problems, a told fiona this and she told Sandra she was to busy that day other than say I was ill with depression and from that day on everything we did was wrong , we’re here to help Luke and corrine same as everyone else and Sandra only wants to promote her good friends group which is fair enough
Sandra left or stopped commenting in here a few weeks ago until a post came up she didn’t like , it was a valid post and she took dislike to a guy asking her why she said she didn’t know the person in his question when said person has commented he’d known her from when they were studying for their degrees , a couldn’t remove the comment the guy put his evidence up so there was obvs more to it, am sorry sandra feels this way about us considering it was our group who made the Glasgow protest a success with our banners and giant pics of Luke, fiona even donated two of those big face banners to Sandra , a thought we were all chasing the same outcome but were not just fighting for justice in here were fighting against sandra and her favourite group, she knows why we’re here yet slates us like that , why? A don’t know that but we’re still here we’re not going anywhere until luke is free
It seems George Fergie is referring to Scott Forbes here ⬆️
Did another Facebook admin remove the link to the other Scott Forbes and George Fergie not see it?
And was this whole thing blown out of proportion ?
Sandra Lean never made this clear
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13th June 2021
George Fergie
Guys today’s update was no surprise , we tried to work with Sandra but if fell flat, she’s directing all the rubbish to us and al take it, everything sandra is unhappy with was me not the team, firstly she says I misrepresented her by calling her the leader , I meant leader of the campaign and she assumed I meant leader of the group
She was unhappy we wanted to sell merch and donate it to Luke’s fund , found out later she actually wanted to do all the merch herself, a found that pretty odd but I agreed, then when I was pushing for Edinburgh protest to be arranged I was told we had to do it legal, notify all authorities etc and that Sandra would handle it, days turned into weeks and I was getting frustrated we were losing momentum , after that a zoom call was arranged but a wasn’t in the right mind to do it as a have mental problems, a told fiona this and she told Sandra she was to busy that day other than say I was ill with depression and from that day on everything we did was wrong , we’re here to help Luke and corrine same as everyone else and Sandra only wants to promote her good friends group which is fair enough
Sandra left or stopped commenting in here a few weeks ago until a post came up she didn’t like , it was a valid post and she took dislike to a guy asking her why she said she didn’t know the person in his question when said person has commented he’d known her from when they were studying for their degrees , a couldn’t remove the comment the guy put his evidence up so there was obvs more to it, am sorry sandra feels this way about us considering it was our group who made the Glasgow protest a success with our banners and giant pics of Luke, fiona even donated two of those big face banners to Sandra , a thought we were all chasing the same outcome but were not just fighting for justice in here were fighting against sandra and her favourite group, she knows why we’re here yet slates us like that , why? A don’t know that but we’re still here we’re not going anywhere until luke is free
Why would Sandra Lean want to apparently sell/handle the murderers merch herself?
or is this incorrect?
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So come on, Sandra. I was going to chill out tonight, watch a movie or two.
Let's get these files uploaded. Give me something to read instead.
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Why would Sandra Lean want to apparently sell/handle the murderers merch herself?
or is this incorrect?
Don't you think with any fund raising someone needs to be in charge..can't really have randoms going off selling stuff with no control or log of money raised.
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So come on, Sandra. I was going to chill out tonight, watch a movie or two.
Let's get these files uploaded. Give me something to read instead.
Just because permission has been given surely that doesn't mean Sandra Lean has to be the one to do it. Surely the legal team with have some input or the best friends
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Don't you think with any fund raising someone needs to be in charge..can't really have randoms going off selling stuff with no control or log of money raised.
Did Sandra Lean want to be in charge of all the fund raising ?
And who has been in charge of fund raising for Sandra?
Money was apparently being ‘gifted’ to Sandra on a monthly basis via PayPal ?!?
Someone called Paula posted a screenshot of PayPal on 1st April 2021 with a total of £570.68 stating,
‘This is the total as of 2 mins ago.. Thank you to each and everyone of you who have contributed towards helping Sandra. The money is being transferred today. Due to the bank holiday weekend I thought it best.. You people are amazing!!
Linda Malcom
‘Do this once a month for Sandra please, I will happily contribute x
Then Sandra Lean posted about 3 weeks later (24th April 2021) stating,
‘Hi, everyone. I owe many of you a massive, massive apology. You were so kind to donate money to help with my expenses associated with this work and I haven't yet said thank you. I meant to come on as soon as I received the money and say thank you so much, to everyone who donated - your kindness is really, really appreciated. With so much going on, it slipped my mind and here we are, three weeks later, with many of you thinking I must be terribly ungrateful and extremely rude. I'm so sorry.
So let me say thank you properly, now, to everyone who donated - it was really, really kind of you. I've bought two external drives so that Luke's entire case papers can be stored digitally (one is for backup, just in case), envelopes and stamps for the sorts of communications that still have to be done the old fashioned way, extra phone data and a five pack of black ink (for copies of case papers that also still have to be reproduced in the old fashioned format). I've also used some for fuel for case related travel. These are all things I've had to pay for myself in the past, so I can't thank you all enough for making it so much easier to just get what I need, when I need it. Thank you, thank you, thank you!!!!!
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Did Sandra Lean want to be in charge of all the fund raising ?
I have no idea but given how things have gone online someone needed to be.
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Then Sandra Lean posted about 3 weeks later (24th April 2021) stating,
‘Hi, everyone. I owe many of you a massive, massive apology. You were so kind to donate money to help with my expenses associated with this work and I haven't yet said thank you. I meant to come on as soon as I received the money and say thank you so much, to everyone who donated - your kindness is really, really appreciated. With so much going on, it slipped my mind and here we are, three weeks later, with many of you thinking I must be terribly ungrateful and extremely rude. I'm so sorry.
So let me say thank you properly, now, to everyone who donated - it was really, really kind of you. I've bought two external drives so that Luke's entire case papers can be stored digitally (one is for backup, just in case), envelopes and stamps for the sorts of communications that still have to be done the old fashioned way, extra phone data and a five pack of black ink (for copies of case papers that also still have to be reproduced in the old fashioned format). I've also used some for fuel for case related travel. These are all things I've had to pay for myself in the past, so I can't thank you all enough for making it so much easier to just get what I need, when I need it. Thank you, thank you, thank you!!!!!
So come on, Sandra. I was going to chill out tonight, watch a movie or two.
Let's get these files uploaded. Give me something to read instead.
Sandra Lean should be able to do that quite quickly now given she apparently purchased 2 external hard drives (One for back up) back in around early April 2021 so that the ‘entire case papers can be stored digitally ‘
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Excerpt from a post made by Stephanie Nicol on the ‘official’ LM Facebook page
Stephanie Nicol
‘A Jury should have everything available in order to decide whether to commit somebody to a life behind bars. Not to do so is an injustice not just to Luke and/or Jodi but to every one of us.
I say that as somebody who has been to court as a witness/victim, had a Guilty verdict and the law said that because there was no corroborating charge, he gets let free.
That is not Justice. This is not Justice.
If Stephanie Nicol has suffered an injustice as she seems to be suggesting
Why didn’t she use stickers which carried photographs of her OWN face instead of [Name removed]’s ?
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Danielle Barclay
‘I remember not even realising these miscarriages of justice and wrongful accusations and convictions was a thing...then it happened to someone i love.
Where can we read about this person Danielle Barclay refers to and their alleged ‘miscarriage of justice’ ?
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Sandra Lean should be able to do that quite quickly now given she apparently purchased 2 external hard drives (One for back up) back in around early April 2021 so that the ‘entire case papers can be stored digitally ‘
She has been claiming to do this for years. Anyway, the entire case papers? I think she needs to be a bit more honest to her followers, on what she really has. But no, it will not take long to upload these files, should have been done by now. Unless the old favourite excuse is used, and she could not get access to the internet. Should not be a problem, in fact she should be running super-dooper fibre optic speeds, with all that money she has been getting. Wonder if she showed them receipts?
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She has been claiming to do this for years. Anyway, the entire case papers? I think she needs to be a bit more honest to her followers, on what she really has. But no, it will not take long to upload these files, should have been done by now. Unless the old favourite excuse is used, and she could not get access to the internet. Should not be a problem, in fact she should be running super-dooper fibre optic speeds, with all that money she has been getting. Wonder if she showed them receipts?
I think you are mixing up what Sandra Lean CAN do and is legally allowed to do
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I think you are mixing up what Sandra Lean CAN do and is legally allowed to do
Sure, whatever...
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’Luke does not want photos of Jodi distributed for his fight for justice, this is insensitive to Jodis family and friends,
But he doesn’t care if he is seen to attempt to over shadow yet another Anniversary/significant day to [Name removed]’s and her family
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Storing the case papers digitally was to ensure nothing got lost when the info was handed over to lawyers and also to make it easier to search and find specific documents.. it was never to be used to upload it and make it public.
Legal papers in Scotland unlike England DO NOT belong to the convicted person but to the legal team. Without a team, they belong to the previous team not to Luke.
It doesnt make any difference if Sandra has them in her possession or Luke gives the green light to share. Its not his call
Sandra will not be sharing this information . This info can be shared with other legal people and only legal people.
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Sandra will not be sharing this information .
Tell us something we don't know.
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Tell us something we don't know, Scott.
Why would Sandra Lean do something she isn't legally allowed to do just because people are demanding to see documents that are none of their concern.
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I'm not Scott. Why would Sandra Lean do something she isn't legally allowed to do just because people are demanding to see documents that are none of their concern.
Lean can do whatever. It matters not. This case is closed. Justice has been done. If people want to milk a few hundred quid to themselves here and there off the back of this tragic case. Then good luck to them. It won't end well.
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She has been claiming to do this for years. Anyway, the entire case papers? I think she needs to be a bit more honest to her followers, on what she really has. But no, it will not take long to upload these files, should have been done by now. Unless the old favourite excuse is used, and she could not get access to the internet. Should not be a problem, in fact she should be running super-dooper fibre optic speeds, with all that money she has been getting. Wonder if she showed them receipts?
Is Sandra Lean legally allowed to upload the case files she has to the external hard drives she allegedly purchased in April 2021?
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Ah, Ok. Must have been a typo, I will get in touch with my publisher and get it sorted out.
Lean can do whatever. It matters not. This case is closed. Justice has been done. If people want to milk a few hundred quid to themselves here and there off the back of this tragic case. Then good luck to them. It won't end well.
No she can't
Just because that is what you want and expect her to do doesn't mean she can.
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Ah, Ok. Must have been a typo, I will get in touch with my publisher and get it sorted out.
Is your publisher currently in or out of prison?
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Is Sandra Lean legally allowed to upload the case files she has to the external hard drives she allegedly purchased in April 2021?
No she isn't. Legally they don't belong to her or Luke. The fact Luke has given permission doesnt overide the fact that the documents are not his either
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Just because that is what you want and expect her to do doesn't mean she can.
Luke Mitchell stated ⬇️
’Luke has also advised Sandra that all documents that have been withheld from the public for years be released immediately.
‘Released immediately’
Is he saying he wants them ‘released’ from Sandra Leans possession or ‘released’ into the public domain?
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Luke Mitchell stated ⬇️
‘Released immediately’
Is he saying he wants them ‘released’ from Sandra Leans possession or ‘released’ into the public domain?
Not sure but If it's the public domain then that isn't possible via Sandra Lean.
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‘Luke has also advised Sandra that all documents that have been withheld from the public for years be released immediately. He has been too concerned about upsetting other people, and following other wishes,but has lost his childhood, teenage years and adolescence. He will not stand for this anymore.
It does appear he seems to be asking Sandra to release all the documents into the public domain
What do you think he means when he says ‘he will not stand for this anymore’? Is this to do with Sandra or what?
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Not sure but If it's the public domain then that isn't possible via Sandra Lean.
Luke and Corinne Mitchell will know the legalities - is he meaning something else?
Is Sandra Lean refusing to hand over the case papers she has in her possession?
Does Luke Mitchell really have a new legal team?
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It does appear he seems to be asking Sandra to release all the documents into the public domain
What do you think he means when he says ‘he will not stand for this anymore’? Is this to do with Sandra or what?
I'm not sure what he means. I just hope he is grateful for all the support Sandra Lean and others have given him. You have posted yourself about some of the people involved at the moment. They think they know it all trample over the feelings of people connected to the case and make rash decisions purely because they want to and think that they can. Being able to do something doesn't make it right.
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Is your publisher currently in or out of prison?
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I'm sure mrsW will be along shortly..
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I'm sure mrsW will be along shortly..
Sandra Lean stated publicly she hasn’t been able to get hold of her publisher
It was possible he might have been in prison when she allegedly attempted to contact him ⬇️
Re Stephen T Manning https://www.ipetitions.com/petition/free-innocent-prisoner-stephen-manning
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Not sure but If it's the public domain then that isn't possible via Sandra Lean.
Did you not hear what she told Sharon Indy Sunshine here https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=-x5EIX9m1Lc
at around 46:00
Sandra Lean
‘We’re coming up to 17 years. I’m getting tired of “you can’t do this you can’t do that” and I mean in reference to the case. We’re 17 years in* (*can’t make out if she said in or down) the line there’s a kid there who’s lost his his entire youth so if it comes to getting a new website up and putting stuff on there that’s not been out before well maybe it’s time maybe it’s time
so I will announce on Facebook when we finally get a way to set up a website and all of that it will be on Facebook but if anybody wants to get in touch just look for me Sandra Lean the the picture is a hand with a yellow paper clip it’s not a picture of me so.…
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Did you not hear what she told Sharon Indy Sunshine here https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=-x5EIX9m1Lc
at around 46:00
No I haven't watched any of those . I understand why Sandra Lean would say that though. She must be worn out. No easy task before you add the people on Social Media and elsewhere making things difficult
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No I haven't watched any of those . I understand why Sandra Lean would say that though. She must be worn out. No easy task before you add the people on Social Media and elsewhere making things difficult
I fail to understand how members can on one hand condemn, quite rightly, the threats made against Jane Hamilton, yet condone the same tactics used against Dr Lean.
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Not sure but If it's the public domain then that isn't possible via Sandra Lean.
Who put the BBC frontline TV show in the public domain?
Sandra Lean claimed to Sharon Indy Sunshine she hadn’t had permission to do so
(Here https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=5W0fnJqhih0 towards the end)
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No I haven't watched any of those . I understand why Sandra Lean would say that though.
What do Luke and Corinne Mitchell say about this? ⬇️
Did you not hear what she told Sharon Indy Sunshine here https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=-x5EIX9m1Lc
at around 46:00
Sandra Lean
‘We’re coming up to 17 years. I’m getting tired of “you can’t do this you can’t do that” and I mean in reference to the case. We’re 17 years in* (*can’t make out if she said in or down) the line there’s a kid there who’s lost his his entire youth so if it comes to getting a new website up and putting stuff on there that’s not been out before well maybe it’s time maybe it’s time ..’
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What do Luke and Corinne Mitchell say about this?
No idea but if Luke is really being as vocal as is being claimed then he could explain.
Maybe people are hearing what they want to hear. Agreeing that a protest is a good idea might not mean that everything else in the statement is as it appears.
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Shona Miller
‘Is there a live tomorrow with Sandra Lean ?’
I’m guessing there won’t be
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She didn't have his permission though did she
She didn’t have the BBC’s permission to upload the frontline doc either did she?
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History tells us no. There’ll be a bland statement’ we are not looking for anyone in relation to this murder’ and all those who crucified Luke will still believe that he ‘dun it’ and Jodi will never receive justice.
No there won’t !
And you appear to be referring to previous cases of innocence fraud
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Sandra Lean stated publicly she hasn’t been able to get hold of her publisher
It was possible he might have been in prison when she allegedly attempted to contact him ⬇️
Re Stephen T Manning https://www.ipetitions.com/petition/free-innocent-prisoner-stephen-manning
Re Sandra Leans book ‘No Smoke’
If you listen to at around 31:00 here https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=-x5EIX9m1Lc she states,
“It’s actually withdrawn at the minute it needs to be updated there’s been a lot that needs updated so it’s not on sale at the minute’
She’s such a bare faced liar!!
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Sharon Indy Sunshine
I have been thinking if people want to have their say in a respectable way they can leave me a voice note on LUKE'S Smjw and i can add them together on a video. Real people real voices real opinions.
Just follow the group rules for these as we still need to maintain a certain standard to protect Luke case.
You can send a few different ones with different points that you may want to make.
I would love to hear all of the comments on a few videos it would be a very powerful thing. I really hope you guys will help. 🥰
I can keep your names out of it on youtube or credit you it's up to you.
Thanks for reading this and for all of your support.
Touting for content for more videos for her channel 🙄
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Sharon Indy Sunshine
I have been thinking if people want to have their say in a respectable way they can leave me a voice note on LUKE'S Smjw and i can add them together on a video. Real people real voices real opinions.
Just follow the group rules for these as we still need to maintain a certain standard to protect Luke case.
You can send a few different ones with different points that you may want to make.
I would love to hear all of the comments on a few videos it would be a very powerful thing. I really hope you guys will help. 🥰
I can keep your names out of it on youtube or credit you it's up to you.
Thanks for reading this and for all of your support.
Touting for content for more videos for her channel 🙄
Has Sharon Indy Sunshine shared Luke and Corinne Mitchell’s message yet? ⬇️
KBB
‘This should be posted on the "official" group also but I don't see it....I wish they would help to get along as has been said we're all here for the same reason mabee mistakes have been made by both groups but the "official" group seems to be a bit stuck up when it comes to this group which is wrong. Were all here for Luke I wish we could all get along together
George Fergie
KBB a hope they reconsider mate , it’s for wits best for luke
Lisa C Reynolds Peden
‘I can only post here as I'm blocked from the 'official' group. I also hope that everyone can put everything to bed to show just how much support there is for both Luke and Corinne.
KG
‘Lisa C Reynolds Peden why would they block you, you have the best connections to those we are campaigning for. That is just bizarre.
Lisa C Reynolds Peden
‘You are right I do have the best and direct connection. Anyway it all started because I put out a statement from Corinne, about how she would like the money that was being raised at the time via go fund me to be put aside for Luke. People were angry because that statement was seen by or sent to go fund me and was stopped. I did say a day or so after that statement I had spoken to Luke and that he wished to money to go to his mum so he could worry a little less. But still it was shut down and I was block! That's the honest truth of it. X
LW
‘George Fergie I am confused. Does this mean Sandra is no longer involved with the campaign
NJ
‘I did try and say this to everyone this isn’t about Sandra or anyone here this is about Luke first and corrine second. Maybe this will stop the pettiness and shameless promotion of the other group by its admin ( I say little and watch everything). This activism is not a competition and yes this group has got out of control but I have never ever seen anyone in this group try and ask people to pick Facebook sides - it’s pathetic. Good on you guys and rememver this is about luke corrine and the pursuit of justice. No one else’s ego matters
Lisa C Reynolds Peden
‘NJ your absolutely spot on 👌🙌
CL
‘Fantastic news ! Now for others to learn how to be team players ! X and not to continue with their one band ego campaigns ! TEAMWORK ! WE ALL WANT THE SAME THING ! LUKE MITCHELL FREE X X X
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LW
‘I am sure I have heard Sandra say many times she has revealed to us as much information in the files as she legally can. I am confused therefore what documents that have been withheld for years can now just be released [/color]
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History tells us no. There’ll be a bland statement’ we are not looking for anyone in relation to this murder’ and all those who crucified Luke will still believe that he ‘dun it’ and Jodi will never receive justice.
Police statement already made ⬇️
‘Police Scotland have since issued a statement to the effect that they are satisfied that Mitchell was guilty and they are not looking for anyone else in connection with the crime.
https://theedinburghreporter.co.uk/2021/02/evidence-that-convinced-a-jury-of-luke-mitchells-guilt/
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Did Sandra Lean have anything to do with Lisa C Reynolds Peden being blocked from the ‘official’ LM Facebook page?
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Lisa C Reynolds Peden
‘You are right I do have the best and direct connection. Anyway it all started because I put out a statement from Corinne, about how she would like the money that was being raised at the time via go fund me to be put aside for Luke. People were angry because that statement was seen by or sent to go fund me and was stopped. I did say a day or so after that statement I had spoken to Luke and that he wished to money to go to his mum so he could worry a little less. But still it was shut down and I was block! That's the honest truth of it. X
9th March 2021
Sandra Lean
‘I am so very sorry - this is the email I received from Go Fund Me this afternoon:
Our Terms of Service, along with strictly enforced policies from the payments industry, prohibit GoFundMe from allowing you to continue raising money for this fundraiser. Any donations made to your fundraiser that have not been withdrawn have been refunded and will be returned to your donors within 3-7 business days.
Regards,
GoFundMe Trust & Safety team
Your kindness and generosity was amazing. I'm heartbroken that this is the final outcome.
And then on the same day Sandra Lean posted ⬇️
‘Please don't think I'm being rude, but I'm going offline for a bit - I need some time out.
See you all later and thanks for all your kind comments and suggestions.
Then on the following day - 10th March 2021 ⬇️
Sandra Lean
Books!!!! Hi everyone. Sorry that some of you have had a slightly longer wait for books - the demand was incredible! Each book had to be signed, hand wrapped and physically posted at the post office or delivered by an amazing local volunteer - there's no part of the process that could be automated!!!
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Police statement already made ⬇️
‘Police Scotland have since issued a statement to the effect that they are satisfied that Mitchell was guilty and they are not looking for anyone else in connection with the crime.
https://theedinburghreporter.co.uk/2021/02/evidence-that-convinced-a-jury-of-luke-mitchells-guilt/
No I’m talking about the one they issue after Luke’s conviction has been quashed and when L&B police fail to take responsibility for their incompetent investigation which left two children without justice.
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From 29th March 2021 ⬇️
Sharon Indy Sunshine
💥 Social Media Justice Warriors 💥
‘We need people who are willing to volunteer to use their own snapchat, insta, fb, Twitter, youtube etc to help Luke (or start a new one for him).
You are all an amazing bunch of talented people who are so dedicated to helping.
So what better way than to tag kkw on Twitter or someone else on Instagram? We need you guys and you really can make a difference.
Remember the media hate Luke. So he needs us, his Social Media Justice Warriors to keep his story out there.
They want us to go away. should we??
They want to shut us up. Are you going to let them?
They want to get away with it. Do you want to shine a light on what they did?
#justiceforlukemitchell
Any post not about the above questions with be removed ❌
*&^^&
Kate Glass
Hi
I am a bit confused regarding the protest. Why two?
Then there is the banner march yesterday.
It seems like everyone is off doing their own thing, bitty, here and there. On different tangents.
Isn't a campaign about inclusiveness, not them v us? Not cliques and the same people getting their faces out there?
I think a few people here and elsewhere are feeling excluded as no idea if it an official campaign or not or just admins from all these groups doing all while we give applause from the sidelines.
Maybe some more official organisation be ideal and not where the Daily Rags succeed in mocking it.
Just my feelings here.
I really think it is crucial for more organised events and can't wait to get to see what unfolds.
Stephanie Nicol
Hi Kate,
The banner was organised and paid for by individuals who know each other and decided to do what they did off their own back.
It wasn’t intended to be an official gathering, just these people doing their bit for Justice. Much like has been done before with posters, stickers, videos etc
Anybody could do what was done yesterday and before. We all live in different places and what with Covid rules, it’s not ideal to have big groups together all the time.
I do believe Sandra wanted to organise an official protest which included everybody and would perhaps offer more of an impact but nobody can stop anybody else organising protests off their own back.
I hope the protest goes well and the intended outcome of raising awareness is achieved 🙂
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Kate Glass
Hi
I am a bit confused regarding the protest. Why two?
Then there is the banner march yesterday.
It seems like everyone is off doing their own thing, bitty, here and there. On different tangents.
Isn't a campaign about inclusiveness, not them v us? Not cliques and the same people getting their faces out there?
I think a few people here and elsewhere are feeling excluded as no idea if it an official campaign or not or just admins from all these groups doing all while we give applause from the sidelines.
Maybe some more official organisation be ideal and not where the Daily Rags succeed in mocking it.
Just my feelings here.
I really think it is crucial for more organised events and can't wait to get to see what unfolds.
Stephanie Nicol
Hi Kate,
The banner was organised and paid for by individuals who know each other and decided to do what they did off their own back.
It wasn’t intended to be an official gathering, just these people doing their bit for Justice. Much like has been done before with posters, stickers, videos etc
Anybody could do what was done yesterday and before. We all live in different places and what with Covid rules, it’s not ideal to have big groups together all the time.
I do believe Sandra wanted to organise an official protest which included everybody and would perhaps offer more of an impact but nobody can stop anybody else organising protests off their own back.
I hope the protest goes well and the intended outcome of raising awareness is achieved 🙂
Stephanie Nicol was referring to Danielle Barclay ⬇️
Danielle Barclay
‘I remember not even realising these miscarriages of justice and wrongful accusations and convictions was a thing...then it happened to someone i love…’
Does anyone know where we can read about Danielle Barclay campaigning on behalf of the person she loves or loved?
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Yet to see evidence of that.....
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Kate Glass
Hi
I am a bit confused regarding the protest. Why two?
Then there is the banner march yesterday.
It seems like everyone is off doing their own thing, bitty, here and there. On different tangents.
SAME FEED
Sharon Indy Sunshine
Hi, Kate Glass It will all be explained in the Sandra video.
I know without seeing it things may seem needlessly fragmented.
Don't be afraid to ask for advice if you want to plan something local for yourself.
Being the official group working for Luke, many of the members go out weekly and spread awareness talking to people etc. giving out leaflets with printed information.
We encourage all members to be proactive and do whatever they can manage.
Everything is very much appreciated.
Hopefully, you will feel more at ease once you have seen Sandra's update on the recent issues she has had to endure with the breakaway groups from the Official one.
Good news though Luke has a lawyer.
Isn't a campaign about inclusiveness, not them v us? Not cliques and the same people getting their faces out there?
I think a few people here and elsewhere are feeling excluded as no idea if it an official campaign or not or just admins from all these groups doing all while we give applause from the sidelines.
Maybe some more official organisation be ideal and not where the Daily Rags succeed in mocking it.
Just my feelings here.
I really think it is crucial for more organised events and can't wait to get to see what unfolds.
Stephanie Nicol
Hi Kate,
The banner was organised and paid for by individuals who know each other and decided to do what they did off their own back.
It wasn’t intended to be an official gathering, just these people doing their bit for Justice. Much like has been done before with posters, stickers, videos etc
Anybody could do what was done yesterday and before. We all live in different places and what with Covid rules, it’s not ideal to have big groups together all the time.
I do believe Sandra wanted to organise an official protest which included everybody and would perhaps offer more of an impact but nobody can stop anybody else organising protests off their own back.
I hope the protest goes well and the intended outcome of raising awareness is achieved 🙂
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Sharon Indy Sunshine
‘…..Being the official group working for Luke,’
I’ve already pointed out Sharon is prone to telling lies
She claimed to have received DM’s (direct messages) from me
I did not and would not send her a DM!
She’s quite clearly deluded
She also supports killers Steven Avery and Brendan Dassey and thinks Amanda Knox was found ‘legally innocent’ - she wasn’t!
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Why is she making such claims? Trying to make herself relevant or looking for sympathy? Because she says she is allegedly being trolled? By whom?
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On the 13th June 2021 alongside a link to Sandra Leans live video
Sharon Indy Sunshine stated,
‘I am not happy with how this lady has been treated.’
Who and what is she referring to?
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I don't know who. She is unlikely to elaborate I am sure.
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Why is she making such claims?
Maybe she’s lies to protect the liar - in this case Sandra Lean who falsely claimed I’ve ‘trolled her for years’
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Because she says she is allegedly being trolled? By whom?
I suspect she’s lying
Other than a couple of tweets in response to her nonsense on Amanda Knox and Sandra Lean - which I shared links to on the forum - I’ve had no other interaction with her
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Maybe she’s lies to protect the liar - in this case Sandra Lean who falsely claimed I’ve ‘trolled her for years’
Why make such claims? Sympathy?
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I suspect she’s lying
Other than a couple of tweets in response to her nonsense on Amanda Knox and Sandra Lean - which I shared links to on the forum - I’ve had no other interaction with her
Clearly playing the sympathy card
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Maybe she’s lies to protect the liar - in this case Sandra Lean who falsely claimed I’ve ‘trolled her for years’
Lynn Wardlaw
I appear to have been deleted from the other group. Following the statement from Lisa Peden I simply asked if this meant Sandra would no longer be involved in the campaign. I am confused about the whole situation. Sandra has been fighting for Luke for 18 years. Without her would the podcasts documentaries and more importantly the new legal team even have happened.
Another one blindly following Sandra. Does her 18 years mean that she is right? 🤷♀️🤔🤥
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Typical guilty killer behaviour
And Sandra Lean will have experienced this behaviour from Luke & Corinne Mitchell for many years - You only need look back at some of the public statements made back in 2014 - at a time when Sandra Lean told me she thought Luke might be guilty and his mother covering for him (Or words to the effect of..)
Do you have a copy of Lean’s comments?
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Typical guilty killer behaviour
And Sandra Lean will have experienced this behaviour from Luke & Corinne Mitchell for many years - You only need look back at some of the public statements made back in 2014 - at a time when Sandra Lean told me she thought Luke might be guilty and his mother covering for him (Or words to the effect of..)
Do you have a copy of Lean’s comments?
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Then on 16th July 2014
“A CRIMINOLOGIST who spearheaded efforts to overturn Luke Mitchell’s conviction for the murder of his girlfriend Jodi Jones has withdrawn from the campaign to free him.
Dr Sandra Lean, who highlighted his case in her book No Smoke! The Shocking Truth About British Justice, led the battle against Mitchell’s life sentence alongside his mother, Corinne.
Her withdrawal follows a ruling by the Scottish Criminal Cases Review Commission (SCCRC), which found there were no grounds to challenge the guilty verdict.
Following the report’s publication, Dr Lean admitted it was a “shattering blow” to the long-running campaign to clear 25-year-old Mitchell’s name, but said he would “not give up his fight”.
Sources said Mrs Mitchell had become unhappy with Dr Lean’s involvement in the wake of the SCCRC ruling, which followed two years of investigation by Scotland’s official justice watchdog.
Dr Lean would not comment on any factors behind her departure, adding the “reasons would remain private as a matter of respect”.
Mrs Mitchell confirmed Dr Lean had left, but did not want to comment further.
Dr Lean said: “I really have nothing to say about this. I believe Luke is 100 per cent completely innocent. The reason for my withdrawal will remain private as a matter of respect.”
Dr Lean added she would not be involved with the website and forum set up to promote Mitchell’s cause as “I no longer have power of attorney”.
But a source said: “Mrs Mitchell blames Dr Lean for the SCCRC appeal failing, which is completely wrong. Dr Lean has dedicated ten years of her life to the cause and has done a really good job.
“It’s appalling for her to be treated this way and it’s left the campaign in disarray.”
https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/news/crime/criminologist-withdraws-from-fight-to-free-luke-mitchell-1-3478153
Sandra Leans co admin at Wrongly Accused Person Organsation, Billy Middleton, explains in his latest rendering...
The road to where things now are for Luke and his case has been a long, difficult and often stressful one for all those who have genuinely believed in and supported him. I say genuinely because, as we know from experience, not everyone who becomes involved in cases such as this have genuine motives. Sandra became involved at a much earlier stage than most, but I don't think anyone with any credibility would suggest she has been anything other than supportive, or that she hasn't tried hard for almost 11 years, at great personal hardship, and often in difficult circumstances, to both help and to expose facts of the case which otherwise would probably still not be known.
Unfortunately, shortly before the SCCRC refusal, at a time when she knew it's decision was imminent, Sandra came to a point whereby she was no longer prepared to carry on and wrote to Luke explaining why. She remains supportive to this day. Anyone involved in the horror of fighting a wrongful conviction will understand the ever present difficulties of the situation.
Luke was merely a child himself when he was incarcerated, now, although he's not been allowed to develop as he should have been, he's a man. What he does now, and the choices he now makes are his alone to make and his responsibility. I wish him well, hope he makes wise choices and is someday successful. For me every day longer will be yet another too long for both him and Jodi to finally get the justice they deserve. However, in the absence of the connection that once existed, and the mandate which went along with it to validate what has been exposed both here on the forum and on his caseblog, WAP is in a difficult position. It is the most sensitive of cases, and the extent and nature of what has been highlighted could only be done in large part due to the fact it has been done on the basis of having access to the supporting documents. Clearly that is no longer the case, and while I had hoped to be able to archive it due to a SCCRC referral, I don't really see how it can remain available.
So while I wish Luke well and hope for a positive outcome, anything which depends on access to his paperwork will have to be taken offline in a week's time roughly. It does not in any way reflect a change in opinion on his case, and if anyone wants to start a topic which isn't notably said to be backed up by case papers they are perfectly free to do so in the general forum area as with any other deserved case providing discussion remains polite, respectful to all concern and dignified.l
Considerable thought has been given to this decision, and it has not been arrived at lightly, but sadly I can't see how, given the nature of the case and all that goes along with it how it can remain now.
www.forum.wronglyaccusedperson.org.uk/series-on-cases-from-sandra-leans-book-no-smoke/luke-mitchell-wrongly-convicted-of-murder-general/150/
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Posted today on the ‘unofficial’ LM Facebook page by Lisa C Reynolds Peden ⬇️
THIS STATEMENT IS FROM LUKE AND CORINNE:
‘I have spoken to Luke and Corinne both their wishes are that everyone who is able to, attends the protest on the 17th of July in Edinburgh! They are both one hundred percent behind this group and the protest that's been organised! Luke has spoken to people the last few days and made it very clear that he will not allow ANYONE to speak for him anymore. He is a man now and will not stay in the background and longer. He has dealt with the person/people who have been telling people not to attend this protest because it wasn't organised by the 'official' group. This is not Luke's wishes and the protest is 100% legal. Luke has made it clear that the Free and retry Luke Mitchell group has his full backing and support. They I will now be posting all statements from Luke via myself.
Also they wish that all the group's come together and that any previous issues are put to bed! Luke has said that he doesn't want animosity between the groups, everyone on these groups are supposed to be here for one reason only and should all be fighting for the same cause! Luke is in charge of his life from now NO ONE ELSE!! He has taken a back seat for far too long and isn't doing it anymore.
*If you are attending any protests please wear a mask and follow all covid guide lines that are in place on the date of the protest.*
Luke and Corinne thank everyone on this group! The support is absolutely amazing! From the bonus ball tickets to raising awareness and being involved and organising two protests! It's all greatly appreciated! All money this group has raised goes directly into a bank account for Corinne.
Luke does not want photos of Jodi distributed for his fight for justice, this is insensitive to Jodis family and friends, and creates bad press for him. It is not and has never been Luke's wishes for us to find the real killer. Our job is to get Luke free and home to his mum. For anyone else to be investigated and/or charged Luke must be acquitted first.
Luke has also advised Sandra that all documents that have been withheld from the public for years be released immediately. He has been too concerned about upsetting other people, and following other wishes,but has lost his childhood, teenage years and adolescence. He will not stand for this anymore.
Luke appreciates your support and welcomes future peaceful protests and any other means of support which are within the law. All ideas from ANY groups MUST be ran by Luke in the first instance before anything is done.
Also Luke has made it very clear that the 'official' group does not speak for him nor has it ever. If you have any questions or would like to run anything by Luke please message myself as I am in daily contact with Corinne and every two days with Luke.
THANK YOU EVERYONE FOR YOUR CONTINUED SUPPORT AND HELPING ME FIGHT FOR MY FREEDOM!! BIG THINGS ARE COMING!!
Luke and Corinne have gave me permission to share with this group some pictures from his childhood. These pictures are not in the public domain. So keep your eyes peeled, I will post one later today!
💞💞💞
#lukemitchellisinnocent #freelukemitchell
Sandra Lean stated during her live video (13th June 2021)
“I spoke to Luke on Tuesday or Wednesday sorry I don’t even lost track of time and erm his he he was he was upset and you’ve got to understand you know Luke doesn’t he doesn’t know the extent of social media like we do because he doesn’t have access to it and his wish was that we would all get round the table and sort it out so that we were all working together and it was really really really hard to to have to say to him it’s been tried it’s been tried and the danger with people running off wanting to do their own thing is that I spoke about this way back at the beginning unintended consequences you could do something today that seems like a great idea and it probably looks like a great idea but without the experience of how these things end up how do you know that next year or in five years that’s not gonna come back as an obstacle as an aspect to the case and the answer is you don’t so when I ask people not to do things or not to do things in a certain way it’s because I know how these things can go galloping off and end up in disaster So that’s that’s where we’re at so I spoke to Luke earlier this week couple of amazing things...”
‘he doesn’t know the extent of social media like we do because he doesn’t have access to it’
By he ‘doesn’t have access to it’ I think what Sandra Lean means is Luke has never used it
Luke Mitchell will have a concept of social media because unless he doesn’t watch tv or read or speak to other people it’s part and parcel of our every day lives nowadays - including within prisons
This isn’t about Luke not knowing the extent of social media - this is all about people’s personalities - including Sandra Leans
And Luke Mitchell will know a whole lot about varying personality types and people’s behaviour - he’s not an idiot - as Corinne pointed out to James English
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Sandra Lean stated during her live video (13th June 2021)
“I spoke to Luke on Tuesday or Wednesday sorry I don’t even lost track of time and erm his he he was he was upset and you’ve got to understand you know Luke doesn’t he doesn’t know the extent of social media like we do because he doesn’t have access to it and his wish was that we would all get round the table and sort it out so that we were all working together and it was really really really hard to to have to say to him it’s been tried it’s been tried and the danger with people running off wanting to do their own thing is that I spoke about this way back at the beginning unintended consequences you could do something today that seems like a great idea and it probably looks like a great idea but without the experience of how these things end up how do you know that next year or in five years that’s not gonna come back as an obstacle as an aspect to the case and the answer is you don’t so when I ask people not to do things or not to do things in a certain way it’s because I know how these things can go galloping off and end up in disaster So that’s that’s where we’re at so I spoke to Luke earlier this week couple of amazing things...”
‘he doesn’t know the extent of social media like we do because he doesn’t have access to it’
By he ‘doesn’t have access to it’ I think what Sandra Lean means is Luke has never used it
Luke Mitchell will have a concept of social media because unless he doesn’t watch tv or read or speak to other people it’s part and parcel of our every day lives nowadays - including within prisons
This isn’t about Luke not knowing the extent of social media - this is all about people’s personalities - including Sandra Leans
And Luke Mitchell will know a whole lot about varying personality types and people’s behaviour - he’s not an idiot - as Corinne pointed out to James English
Sandra Lean stated today (27th June 2021) during what she called her ‘last live’ video
”I spoke with Luke the day before this statement was posted and a great deal of what was in the statement didn’t come up in that conversation at all and what did come up wasn’t discussed in the tone or the interpretation that the statement would suggest so yet it came as a little bit of a surprise to me as well the day after erm I’d had a conversation with Luke I knew decisions were being taken about the direction of the campaign but not anything like what was said in the statement…”
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Say what? - Where is the new legal team?
Do you think there really ever was a new legal team?
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Sandra Lean stated today (27th June 2021) during what she called her ‘last live’ video
”I spoke with Luke the day before this statement was posted and a great deal of what was in the statement didn’t come up in that conversation at all and what did come up wasn’t discussed in the tone or the interpretation that the statement would suggest so yet it came as a little bit of a surprise to me as well the day after erm I’d had a conversation with Luke I knew decisions were being taken about the direction of the campaign but not anything like what was said in the statement…”
I don’t suppose this is the first time things have been like this ⬆️
I do however suspect it’s the first time Sandra Lean has chosen to comment publicly on it
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Sandra Lean stated today (27th June 2021) during what she called her ‘last live’ video
”I spoke with Luke the day before this statement was posted and a great deal of what was in the statement didn’t come up in that conversation at all and what did come up wasn’t discussed in the tone or the interpretation that the statement would suggest so yet it came as a little bit of a surprise to me as well the day after erm I’d had a conversation with Luke I knew decisions were being taken about the direction of the campaign but not anything like what was said in the statement…”
Will Luke Mitchell now finally confess to his crimes of having killed [Name removed]’s and for being too much of a coward to admit the truth for all these years?
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Posted today on the ‘unofficial’ LM Facebook page by Lisa C Reynolds Peden ⬇️
THIS STATEMENT IS FROM LUKE AND CORINNE:
‘I have spoken to Luke and Corinne both their wishes are that everyone who is able to, attends the protest on the 17th of July in Edinburgh! They are both one hundred percent behind this group and the protest that's been organised! Luke has spoken to people the last few days and made it very clear that he will not allow ANYONE to speak for him anymore. He is a man now and will not stay in the background and longer. He has dealt with the person/people who have been telling people not to attend this protest because it wasn't organised by the 'official' group. This is not Luke's wishes and the protest is 100% legal. Luke has made it clear that the Free and retry Luke Mitchell group has his full backing and support. They I will now be posting all statements from Luke via myself.
This reminds me of the fiasco re killer Simon Hall from 2012/13
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Will Luke Mitchell now finally confess to his crimes of having killed [Name removed]’s and for being too much of a coward to admit the truth for all these years?
Why would he? Do you think that some of the comments in the statement have been exaggerated in a desperate attempt for the other group to gain control over what was classed the official group?
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Do you think that some of the comments in the statement have been exaggerated in a desperate attempt for the other group to gain control over what was classed the official group?
No
I’m of the view this has come directly from killer Luke Mitchell and his mother and that the public are finally seeing a glimpse of his psychopathic personality
Sandra Lean stated today (27th June 2021) during what she called her ‘last live’ video
”I spoke with Luke the day before this statement was posted and a great deal of what was in the statement didn’t come up in that conversation at all and what did come up wasn’t discussed in the tone or the interpretation that the statement would suggest so yet it came as a little bit of a surprise to me as well the day after erm I’d had a conversation with Luke I knew decisions were being taken about the direction of the campaign but not anything like what was said in the statement…”
The above suggests Luke Mitchell presents differently depending on who he’s speaking with
”They are highly manipulative and chameleon like as they will play a role designed to meet your expectations:
'A psychopath can appear strong, naive, dominant, honest, submissive, trustworthy, worldly, or whatever he or she believes will get others to respond positively to manipulative overtures...'
https://www.remorselessfiction.com/chameleons.html
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No I’m of the view this has come directly from killer Luke Mitchell and that the public are finally seeing a glimpse of his psychopathic personality
I think the personalities have let their egos run away with them. As I've said before being admin on a group isn't working on a case is it. Looks bad for Luke really so hope they did quote him correctly as it's not a game.
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No
I’m of the view this has come directly from killer Luke Mitchell and his mother and that the public are finally seeing a glimpse of his psychopathic personality
The above suggests Luke Mitchell presents differently depending on who he’s speaking with
Maybe it does. It's quite possible that the group members have got a bit of new info and inflated it too.
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Will Luke Mitchell now finally confess to his crimes of having killed [Name removed]’s and for being too much of a coward to admit the truth for all these years?
Why would he?
Why wouldn’t he?
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Maybe it does. It's quite possible that the group members have got a bit of new info and inflated it too.
If Luke Mitchell weren’t a coward ⬇️ he would have told Sandra Lean what he’s instead chosen to put in a public statement via Lisa C Reynolds Peden - who he’s also using by the way
Sandra Lean stated today (27th June 2021) during what she called her ‘last live’ video
”I spoke with Luke the day before this statement was posted and a great deal of what was in the statement didn’t come up in that conversation at all and what did come up wasn’t discussed in the tone or the interpretation that the statement would suggest so yet it came as a little bit of a surprise to me as well the day after erm I’d had a conversation with Luke I knew decisions were being taken about the direction of the campaign but not anything like what was said in the statement…”
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If Luke Mitchell weren’t a coward ⬇️ he would have told Sandra Lean what he’s instead chosen to put in a public statement via Lisa C Reynolds Peden - who he’s also using by the way
It's all very strange
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It's all very strange
How so?
He’s a coward ⬇️
”Luke has spoken to people the last few days and made it very clear that he will not allow ANYONE to speak for him anymore. He is a man now and will not stay in the background and longer.[/i]d[/color]
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How so?
Has LM relieved Sandra Lean of her duties?
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Has LM relieved Sandra Lean of her duties?
Looks like it
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Has LM relieved Sandra Lean of her duties?
Perhaps he really does have a new legal team, and he and they intend to take over from Sandra Lean.
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Perhaps he really does have a new legal team, and he and they intend to take over from Sandra Lean.
Perhaps he doesn’t
Perhaps it was said to get his case files back from Sandra Lean?
Did she wish the alleged new legal team well today going forward?
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Perhaps he really does have a new legal team, and he and they intend to take over from Sandra Lean.
It's possible but the animosity would indicate differently.
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Perhaps he really does have a new legal team, and he and they intend to take over from Sandra Lean.
Let's hope so
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Perhaps he doesn’t
Perhaps it was said to get his case files back from Sandra Lean?
Did she wish the alleged new legal team well today going forward?
What will happen to the group members now?
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Poor Sandra, shoved to the side again. Not to worry, i'll give it a year before she is back in the fray. Wonder if Corrine will send her instead, to go dumpster diving for the documents when the time comes.
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Has Corrine Mitchell finally decided to publish her and Luke’s police witness statements in full?
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Sandra Lean stated today (27th June 2021) during what she called her ‘last live’ video
”I spoke with Luke the day before this statement was posted and a great deal of what was in the statement didn’t come up in that conversation at all and what did come up wasn’t discussed in the tone or the interpretation that the statement would suggest so yet it came as a little bit of a surprise to me as well the day after erm I’d had a conversation with Luke I knew decisions were being taken about the direction of the campaign but not anything like what was said in the statement…”
For me this suggests trouble has been brewing for some time
Sandra Lean didn’t need to make any comment today - she could have waited another week or more
Excerpt from P.270-271 ‘Hidden in Plain View’ by Sandra Lean
Internet campaigns
‘The steady increase in internet campaigns, although creating an outlet for information which is largely ignored or dismissed by the mainstream print and broadcast media, is orchestrated by individuals who have little or no experience of creating and guiding a large media presence, or how to maintain and increase interest once a case has begun to draw attention. An apparently successful campaign for one high profile case in 2009/2010, which drew several hundred supporters, collapsed amidst a very public, bitter and acrimonious dispute between various contributors.89 There were several consequences, including some contributors and supporters withdrawing from internet advocacy, others withdrawing from some campaigns whilst supporting others, and the creation of a general rift in what had, prior to that, been an encouraging and cohesive group. Anonymous and malicious posting, and posters using multiple online identities, have been an ongoing difficulty for online campaigns (and campaigners), with smear tactics and dishonesty being used to discredit individuals and cases, sometimes spilling over into physical threats and arrests90.
Restrictions in Scotland introduce an added difficulty for individuals wishing to run internet campaigns, as it is an offence to make public many documents used in trials or court proceedings,91 something which is a central part of internet campaigns both in England and in the USA. The ability to make available publicly actual copies of documents used in investigative and trial proceedings is considered to be a strong factor in convincing members of the public that a conviction is wrongful, but in Scotland, the inability to do so leaves open accusations that supporters of wrongly accused/convicted persons cannot “prove‟ that their claims have any basis in truth or fact, and those supporters and campaigners have no way of effectively responding to such accusations.
89 This campaign was beset with difficulties introduced by control issues, contributors who were ignorant of the actual legal processes involved, defensiveness, a tendency for contributors to interpret criticisms and suggestions as personal attacks, and the recurring difficulties of malicious and disingenuous contributors posting under numerous false identities.
90 In the course of this study, four people were arrested for online harassment and intimidation, direct physical threats were made to at least three individuals, including death threats, photographs of individuals‟ homes and family members were posted online, and personal addresses and phone numbers were released. Police in England acted on complaints of online harassment and intimidation, whereas Scottish police refused repeatedly to do so.
91 In Scotland, where case papers are deemed to belong to the solicitor, the solicitor is prohibited from disclosing information to „third parties‟ – for example, statements and expert reports in cases in England and Wales have been incorporated into campaign websites, but this would be an offence in Scotland.
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I hope whoever is heading up Luke’s campaign has the same drive, determination and dedication that Sandra has had for the past 18 years, keeping it in the public eye and people talking about the case. The documentary and book is what has made the difference now, whether you agree with their contents or not it certainly got a lot of awareness. I hope Luke and his mum appreciate all the years of hard work she put in and all the years hassle she has had to put up with in order to get to where he is now. It seems such a shame she is walking away from the case but seems Luke wants to head in a different direction. Totally agree he was wrong to not discuss it with her prior to the statement being released, Really does not reflect well on him IMO!!
Well done Sandra for all your work. I for one thank you for opening my eyes up to the farce that is the Scottish policing / justice system!
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Well said 8@??)(
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Well said 8@??)(
I second that !
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Perhaps he really does have a new legal team, and he and they intend to take over from Sandra Lean.
She said she'll be handing all of the papers over on June 30th - presumably to the lawyers?
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I second that !
Third here.
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Luke Mitchell has been an adult for several years now.
He has indeed Parky - a grown man
So why did he choose to make the following statement?
Luke has spoken to people the last few days and made it very clear that he will not allow ANYONE to speak for him anymore. He is a man now and will not stay in the background and longer.
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Lisa C Reynolds Peden
‘I can only post here as I'm blocked from the 'official' group. I also hope that everyone can put everything to bed to show just how much support there is for both Luke and Corinne.
Lisa C Reynolds Peden
‘You are right I do have the best and direct connection. Anyway it all started because I put out a statement from Corinne, about how she would like the money that was being raised at the time via go fund me to be put aside for Luke. People were angry because that statement was seen by or sent to go fund me and was stopped. I did say a day or so after that statement I had spoken to Luke and that he wished to money to go to his mum so he could worry a little less. But still it was shut down and I was block! That's the honest truth of it. X
Paula
‘Another transparency that I will lay down for you all.
When I first started this page, there were false statements being made on here which I had to delete, I've babysat this page on my own for months due to a few horrible things being said and FALSE reporting. Morning, noon and night I have had to monitor peoples comments and posts. I am NOT complaining, I CHOOSE to do this voluntarily!
I Need to tell you all this..... the below statement was written from someone I BLOCKED from this page months ago, why? Because it was down to a post she shared on here which resulted in 15k pounds having to be REFUNDED to Gifters that was collected for Corinne....
Think of that as you will...
I have ALWAYS run this page with honesty. And will ALWAYS continue to do so.
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Lisa C Reynolds Peden
Luke has spoken to people the last few days and made it very clear that he will not allow ANYONE to speak for him anymore. He is a man now and will not stay in the background and longer.
In the meantime Lisa C Reynolds Peden will post photos of Luke when he was a child 🙄
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Lisa C Reynolds Peden
In the meantime Lisa C Reynolds Peden will post photos of Luke when he was a child 🙄
*&^^&
https://twitter.com/LisaPeden6/status/1383136469125111808
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*&^^&
https://twitter.com/LisaPeden6/status/1383136469125111808
Why would anyone want to see a child killer as a child? Awwww, isn't he cute???? No!!
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Really does not reflect well on him IMO!!
’The time has come for family of Luke Mitchell murder victim Jodi Jones to be respected’
‘The family of murdered schoolgirl Jodi Jones have suffered years of anguish since she was brutally killed by twisted Luke Mitchell.
Not only have they endured the horror of losing the 14-year-old but they have also had to watch a misinformation campaign snowball.
False claims of Mitchell’s innocence have been stepped up in recent years – adding to the agony of Jodi’s loved ones.
https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scottish-news/record-view-jodi-jones-murder-24319536.amp?__twitter_impression=true
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Lisa C Reynolds Peden
In the meantime Lisa C Reynolds Peden will post photos of Luke when he was a child 🙄
https://twitter.com/LisaPeden6/status/1295850269159424002
https://twitter.com/LisaPeden6/status/1293572630591807488
I’m guessing she’s not read exhibit 500 http://callahan.mysite.com/wm3/img/exh500.html and isn’t aware Echols confessed to having murdered Michael Moore, Christopher Byers and Steve Branch
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’The time has come for family of Luke Mitchell murder victim Jodi Jones to be respected’
‘The family of murdered schoolgirl Jodi Jones have suffered years of anguish since she was brutally killed by twisted Luke Mitchell.
Not only have they endured the horror of losing the 14-year-old but they have also had to watch a misinformation campaign snowball.
False claims of Mitchell’s innocence have been stepped up in recent years – adding to the agony of Jodi’s loved ones.
https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scottish-news/record-view-jodi-jones-murder-24319536.amp?__twitter_impression=true
Yeah, it's most definitely time. Poor Jodi and the pain her mother must feel every single day since that day until now must be such a heavy burden to bear it's unimaginable. Then, for keyboard warriors and internet cowards to have their say about Jodi's family and anyone else living or dead is abhorrent. They are allowed to remain anonymous whilst nothing's in the public domain, no proof! Cowards, one and all because if it cannot be shared then it shouldn't be mentioned.
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KG
‘Lisa C Reynolds Peden why would they block you, you have the best connections to those we are campaigning for. That is just bizarre.
Lisa C Reynolds Peden
‘You are right I do have the best and direct connection. Anyway it all started because I put out a statement from Corinne, about how she would like the money that was being raised at the time via go fund me to be put aside for Luke. People were angry because that statement was seen by or sent to go fund me and was stopped. I did say a day or so after that statement I had spoken to Luke and that he wished to money to go to his mum so he could worry a little less. But still it was shut down and I was block! That's the honest truth of it. X
And she’s apparently been Luke Mitchell’s pen pal since 2019
https://twitter.com/LisaPeden6/status/1145049700900495363
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And she’s apparently been Luke Mitchell’s pen pal since 2019
https://twitter.com/LisaPeden6/status/1145049700900495363
Penpal? I did that in primary. As a woman, I find them embarrassing.
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“Statement” Official Group
Lianna Mackie
As a team, we feel it only fair to address today’s update. We understand that you may all be shocked and upset by Sandra taking a step back in a professional capacity. As a team, we are also shaken. Some of the team are taking a much needed break, and as a result we are trying to keep all comments related to today’s update in one place so that it is easier to monitor, and so that we can turn off commenting if there is no one around to check in.
As always, our main focus is on justice. So as ever, we need to stick to our group rules. We have however decided as a team to be a little looser with the rules in these exceptional circumstances, to give all of you a safe place to vent and speak about your worries.
Please use this post to do so. All other posts about Sandra’s live will be declined, and comments on current posts disabled.
We really hope you can understand our decision.
https://fb.watch/6oFgMk2Fgw/
Encouraging members to speak about their worries? What worries could their possibly be? The loss of their leader?
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“Statement” Official Group
Lianna Mackie
As a team, we feel it only fair to address today’s update. We understand that you may all be shocked and upset by Sandra taking a step back in a professional capacity. As a team, we are also shaken. Some of the team are taking a much needed break, and as a result we are trying to keep all comments related to today’s update in one place so that it is easier to monitor, and so that we can turn off commenting if there is no one around to check in.
As always, our main focus is on justice. So as ever, we need to stick to our group rules. We have however decided as a team to be a little looser with the rules in these exceptional circumstances, to give all of you a safe place to vent and speak about your worries.
Please use this post to do so. All other posts about Sandra’s live will be declined, and comments on current posts disabled.
We really hope you can understand our decision.
https://fb.watch/6oFgMk2Fgw/
Encouraging members to speak about their worries? What worries could their possibly be? The loss of their leader?
What appears clear is many people who have commented don’t seem to know what’s going on
I suspect it will only be a matter of time before some of them recognise they’ve been duped - not only by the Mitchell’s but also by Sandra Lean
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“Statement” Official Group
Lianna Mackie
As a team, we feel it only fair to address today’s update. We understand that you may all be shocked and upset by Sandra taking a step back in a professional capacity. As a team, we are also shaken. Some of the team are taking a much needed break, and as a result we are trying to keep all comments related to today’s update in one place so that it is easier to monitor, and so that we can turn off commenting if there is no one around to check in.
As always, our main focus is on justice. So as ever, we need to stick to our group rules. We have however decided as a team to be a little looser with the rules in these exceptional circumstances, to give all of you a safe place to vent and speak about your worries.
Please use this post to do so. All other posts about Sandra’s live will be declined, and comments on current posts disabled.
We really hope you can understand our decision.
https://fb.watch/6oFgMk2Fgw/
Encouraging members to speak about their worries? What worries could their possibly be? The loss of their leader?
Keeping all the quotes in one place as much as possible so they can maintain a central control. I'll post where I like and exactly, what worries? Shaken? Why would anyone be shaken? I find it impossible to have any sympathy given some of the disgusting comments made by some from that group. Comments that went unchecked by their ex.
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Keeping all the quotes in one place as much as possible so they can maintain a central control. I'll post where I like and exactly, what worries? Shaken? Why would anyone be shaken? I find it impossible to have any sympathy given some of the disgusting comments made by some from that group. Comments that went unchecked by their ex.
We haven't agreed on much so far, if anything? but on this we do agree. Some disgusting comments on the groups, accusations and vile comments that got way out of hand. No one can control what others try to post . They are responsible for their own actions no matter what impact it has on others
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We haven't agreed on much so far, if anything? but on this we do agree. Some disgusting comments on the groups, accusations and vile comments that got way out of hand. No one can control what others try to post . They are responsible for their own actions no matter what impact it has on others
Lots of cognitive dissonance on display also and [Name removed]’s has again been ghosted
‘I would personally like to Thank Sandra for 18 years of dedication to Lukes Case.
For 18 years of fighting a little boys corner, supporting him through his teenage years, being there whilst he grew into the man he is today..
18 years of sheer commitment to, as Sandra says, "doing the right thing".
I am absolutely heartbroken that she feels she NEEDS to step away now, in MY opinion has been pushed aside, discarded even...
I just hope she knows how much of a dignified, caring and strong woman she is. I am full of admiration that ONE woman has fought this fight alone for the best part of 18 years. She has worked tirelessly, without financial support, EVERYTHING shes given selflessly has been given because she wants JUSTICE for Luke...
I want to wish her all the success in the future with the other Miscarriages of Justice she fights for.
WE NEED more "Sandras" in this world..
Thank you for everything.. ❤
PAULA X
#MakeOfThatAsYouWill
Will be interesting to see how long it takes some of these people to recognise the difference between ‘doing the right thing’ and promoting innocence fraud
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And she’s apparently been Luke Mitchell’s pen pal since 2019
https://twitter.com/LisaPeden6/status/1145049700900495363
Lisa C Reynolds Peden also described as ‘a friend’ of Corinne Mitchell’s
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On the 13th June 2021 alongside a link to Sandra Leans live video
Sharon Indy Sunshine stated,
‘I am not happy with how this lady has been treated.’
Who and what is she referring to?
Sharon Indy Sunshine
‘The disrespect towards Sandra has been so difficult to see.
What about the disrespect displayed towards [Name removed]’s and her family? *&^^&
‘Luke Mitchell was found guilty - slinging mud at Jodi Jones' family is desperate’
https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scottish-news/luke-mitchell-found-guilty-murder-24016568
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We haven't agreed on much so far, if anything? but on this we do agree. Some disgusting comments on the groups, accusations and vile comments that got way out of hand. No one can control what others try to post . They are responsible for their own actions no matter what impact it has on others
Don't forget the bit where it all went unchecked. You've made some vicious comments yourself that you still haven't provided any proof of.
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Don't forget the bit where it all went unchecked. You've made some vicious comments yourself that you still haven't provided any proof of.
I have not vicious comments and I have not accused anyone of anything. I do not know who killed Jodi. We have had this convo a few times now. What exactly do you want me to provide?
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I have not vicious comments and I have not accused anyone of anything. I do not know who killed Jodi. We have had this convo a few times now. What exactly do you want me to provide?
The dates Scott Forbes attended Stirling uni and confirmation in writing he completed his stint there
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The dates Scott Forbes attended Stirling uni and confirmation in writing he completed his stint there
And do you think he has this kind of document as I have no idea
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Will be interesting to see how long it takes some of these people to recognise the difference between ‘doing the right thing’ and promoting innocence fraud
The forthcoming ‘protest’ in Edinburgh isn’t looking good either
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The forthcoming ‘protest’ in Edinburgh isn’t looking good either
No?
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The forthcoming ‘protest’ in Edinburgh isn’t looking good either
I shall look that up.
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Lisa C Reynolds Peden also described as ‘a friend’ of Corinne Mitchell’s
Lisa C Reynolds Peden (30th April 2021
‘So in the book it states that Ju J, Ja J and AW confirmed categorically that there was no grounding in place on the night of June 30th. Ja J remembered the specific start date of the four week punishment as beginning on May 14th, because she had an exam that day and, arriving home early, discovered the Jodi had skipped school. Ju J told police that because Jodi had been going to woodburn in recent weeks, she needed the "extra time" (i.e. ten o'clock curfew) for the additional traveling. The friend Jodi met with in woodburn was on holiday the week of the murder, therefore, the grounding had to have been lifted before then - according to Ja J recollection, it was finished by 12th June. AW said simply that the punishment had petered out until things returned to normal "a few weeks ago".
Although Jodi was at Luke's house on the 28th of June and they had got carried away and lost track of time. So a taxi was called to make sure Jodi got home in time. Luke gave Jodi the fair for this.
Luke still believed Jodi to be grounded, although she was allowed to his house on the Saturday! So sometimes Jodi's grounding would have random days break mixed in?!
So if her grounding stopped on the 12th on June and not the 30th, who was Jodi hanging around with? Who was she meeting up with after school? And what were they doing? Why didn't she tell Luke about the grounding being lifted until these texts that supposedly Jodi sent to Luke from her mum's phone? It's been referred to time and time again that Jodi was the 'other' woman as Luke was having an 'affair' but what if in real fact Luke was the 'other' guy and it was really Jodi who was having an 'affair'!🤷🏻♀️🤔🧐
*&^^&
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ELJ:
NG…… does this make sense to u ? If so please pm n let me know what’s actual even happening 🤷🏽♀️🙄🙈
It can’t be what I’m thinking it is
No one spends 18 years fighting someone’s corner n then just says thanks it’s been a pleasure but carry on without me ….. for nothing 🤷🏽♀️
Surely over the past 18 years there must have been things they didn’t both agree on n I’m sure they overcame those situations so what’s happened here that’s so bad that one of them has lost faith in the others way of doing things n couldn’t be reconciled 🙈🙈
I just feel this is gny create such a massive set back in many ways 😳
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What lessons, if any, did Sandra Lean learn from killer Simon Hall’s ‘campaign’ ⬇️ ⬇️ ⬇️ ?
Excerpt from P.270-271 ‘Hidden in Plain View’ by Sandra Lean
Internet campaigns
‘The steady increase in internet campaigns, although creating an outlet for information which is largely ignored or dismissed by the mainstream print and broadcast media, is orchestrated by individuals who have little or no experience of creating and guiding a large media presence, or how to maintain and increase interest once a case has begun to draw attention. An apparently successful campaign for one high profile case in 2009/2010, which drew several hundred supporters, collapsed amidst a very public, bitter and acrimonious dispute between various contributors.89 There were several consequences, including some contributors and supporters withdrawing from internet advocacy, others withdrawing from some campaigns whilst supporting others, and the creation of a general rift in what had, prior to that, been an encouraging and cohesive group. Anonymous and malicious posting, and posters using multiple online identities, have been an ongoing difficulty for online campaigns (and campaigners), with smear tactics and dishonesty being used to discredit individuals and cases, sometimes spilling over into physical threats and arrests90.
Restrictions in Scotland introduce an added difficulty for individuals wishing to run internet campaigns, as it is an offence to make public many documents used in trials or court proceedings,91 something which is a central part of internet campaigns both in England and in the USA. The ability to make available publicly actual copies of documents used in investigative and trial proceedings is considered to be a strong factor in convincing members of the public that a conviction is wrongful, but in Scotland, the inability to do so leaves open accusations that supporters of wrongly accused/convicted persons cannot “prove‟ that their claims have any basis in truth or fact, and those supporters and campaigners have no way of effectively responding to such accusations.
89 This campaign was beset with difficulties introduced by control issues, contributors who were ignorant of the actual legal processes involved, defensiveness, a tendency for contributors to interpret criticisms and suggestions as personal attacks, and the recurring difficulties of malicious and disingenuous contributors posting under numerous false identities.
90 In the course of this study, four people were arrested for online harassment and intimidation, direct physical threats were made to at least three individuals, including death threats, photographs of individuals‟ homes and family members were posted online, and personal addresses and phone numbers were released. Police in England acted on complaints of online harassment and intimidation, whereas Scottish police refused repeatedly to do so.
91 In Scotland, where case papers are deemed to belong to the solicitor, the solicitor is prohibited from disclosing information to „third parties‟ – for example, statements and expert reports in cases in England and Wales have been incorporated into campaign websites, but this would be an offence in Scotland.
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Sharon Indy Sunshine
‘The disrespect towards Sandra has been so difficult to see.
What about the disrespect displayed towards [Name removed]’s and her family? *&^^&
‘Luke Mitchell was found guilty - slinging mud at Jodi Jones' family is desperate’
https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scottish-news/luke-mitchell-found-guilty-murder-24016568
Sharon behaves like a ‘flying monkey’
https://www.wellandgood.com/narcissistic-flying-monkeys/
https://www.psychologytoday.com/gb/blog/women-autism-spectrum-disorder/202010/are-you-narcissist-s-flying-monkey
https://psychcentral.com/pro/exhausted-woman/2019/07/narcissists-and-their-flying-monkeys#1
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Posted today on the ‘unofficial’ LM Facebook page by Lisa C Reynolds Peden ⬇️
THIS STATEMENT IS FROM LUKE AND CORINNE:
‘I have spoken to Luke and Corinne both their wishes are that everyone who is able to, attends the protest on the 17th of July in Edinburgh! They are both one hundred percent behind this group and the protest that's been organised! Luke has spoken to people the last few days and made it very clear that he will not allow ANYONE to speak for him anymore. He is a man now and will not stay in the background and longer. He has dealt with the person/people who have been telling people not to attend this protest because it wasn't organised by the 'official' group. This is not Luke's wishes and the protest is 100% legal. Luke has made it clear that the Free and retry Luke Mitchell group has his full backing and support. They I will now be posting all statements from Luke via myself.
Also they wish that all the group's come together and that any previous issues are put to bed! Luke has said that he doesn't want animosity between the groups, everyone on these groups are supposed to be here for one reason only and should all be fighting for the same cause! Luke is in charge of his life from now NO ONE ELSE!! He has taken a back seat for far too long and isn't doing it anymore.
*If you are attending any protests please wear a mask and follow all covid guide lines that are in place on the date of the protest.*
Luke and Corinne thank everyone on this group! The support is absolutely amazing! From the bonus ball tickets to raising awareness and being involved and organising two protests! It's all greatly appreciated! All money this group has raised goes directly into a bank account for Corinne.
Luke does not want photos of Jodi distributed for his fight for justice, this is insensitive to Jodis family and friends, and creates bad press for him. It is not and has never been Luke's wishes for us to find the real killer. Our job is to get Luke free and home to his mum. For anyone else to be investigated and/or charged Luke must be acquitted first.
Luke has also advised Sandra that all documents that have been withheld from the public for years be released immediately. He has been too concerned about upsetting other people, and following other wishes,but has lost his childhood, teenage years and adolescence. He will not stand for this anymore.
Luke appreciates your support and welcomes future peaceful protests and any other means of support which are within the law. All ideas from ANY groups MUST be ran by Luke in the first instance before anything is done.
Also Luke has made it very clear that the 'official' group does not speak for him nor has it ever. If you have any questions or would like to run anything by Luke please message myself as I am in daily contact with Corinne and every two days with Luke.
THANK YOU EVERYONE FOR YOUR CONTINUED SUPPORT AND HELPING ME FIGHT FOR MY FREEDOM!! BIG THINGS ARE COMING!!
Luke and Corinne have gave me permission to share with this group some pictures from his childhood. These pictures are not in the public domain. So keep your eyes peeled, I will post one later today!
💞💞💞
#lukemitchellisinnocent #freelukemitchell
George Fergie
‘Glad this is out now, a felt so persecuted for myself and the whole team that run this group, let’s get everyone on the same page, no more fighting against each other guys let’s be one like Luke and corrine want
George Fergie
‘Guys we will not tolerate abuse regarding Luke’s statement , if it persists it’ll be straight blocks , sorry but it’s time to move on , there’s an open invitation to anyone who wants to go to the Geo Protest and that includes all other groups and pages, it’s Luke and corrines will to do it all together so division will no longer be tolerated
Another version ⬇️
June 26 at 12:26 PM Lisa C Reynolds Peden Admin
THIS STATEMENT IS FROM LUKE AND CORINNE:
I have spoken to Luke and Corinne both their wishes are that everyone who is able to, attends the protest on the 17th of July in Edinburgh! They are both one hundred percent behind this group and the protest that's been organised! Luke has spoken to people the last few days and made it very clear that he will not allow ANYONE to speak for him anymore. He is a man now and will not stay in the background and longer. He has dealt with the person/people who have been telling people not to attend this protest because it wasn't organised by the 'official' group. This is not Luke's wishes and the protest is 100% legal. Luke has made it clear that the Free and retry Luke Mitchell group has his full backing and support. They I will now be posting all statements from Luke via myself.
Also they wish that all the group's come together and that any previous issues are put to bed! Luke has said that he doesn't want animosity between the groups, everyone on these groups are supposed to be here for one reason only and should all be fighting for the same cause! Luke is in charge of his life from now NO ONE ELSE!! He has taken a back seat for far too long and isn't doing it anymore.
*If you are attending any protests please wear a mask and follow all covid guide lines that are in place on the date of the protest.*
Luke and Corinne thank everyone on this group! The support is absolutely amazing! From the bonus ball tickets to raising awareness and being involved and organising two protests! It's all greatly appreciated! All money this group has raised goes directly into a bank account for Corinne.
Luke does not want photos of Jodi distributed for his fight for justice, this is insensitive to Jodis family and friends, and creates bad press for him. It is not and has never been Luke's wishes for us to find the real killer, that's the police's job. But our job is to make people aware that Luke is 100% innocent. We all want Luke free and home to his mum. For anyone else to be investigated and/or charged Luke must be acquitted first.
Luke has also advised Sandra that all documents that have been withheld for years be released immediately. Were law allows of course, Luke's new lawyer will be looking over everything and advising what inform can be made more readily available. He has been too concerned about upsetting other people, and following other wishes,but has lost his childhood, teenage years and adolescence. He will not stand for this anymore.
Luke appreciates your support and welcomes future peaceful protests and any other means of support which are within the law. All ideas from ANY groups MUST be ran by Luke in the first instance before anything is done.
Also Luke has made it very clear that the 'official' group does not speak for him nor has it ever. If you have any questions or would like to run anything by Luke please message myself as I am in daily contact with Corinne and every two days with Luke.
THANK YOU EVERYONE FOR YOUR CONTINUED SUPPORT AND HELPING ME FIGHT FOR MY FREEDOM!! BIG THINGS ARE COMING!!
Luke and Corinne have gave me permission to share with this group some pictures from his childhood. These pictures are not in the public domain. So keep your eyes peeled, I will post one later today!
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Posted today on the ‘unofficial’ LM Facebook page by Lisa C Reynolds Peden ⬇️
THIS STATEMENT IS FROM LUKE AND CORINNE:
‘I have spoken to Luke and Corinne both their wishes are that everyone who is able to, attends the protest on the 17th of July in Edinburgh! They are both one hundred percent behind this group and the protest that's been organised! Luke has spoken to people the last few days and made it very clear that he will not allow ANYONE to speak for him anymore. He is a man now and will not stay in the background and longer. He has dealt with the person/people who have been telling people not to attend this protest because it wasn't organised by the 'official' group. This is not Luke's wishes and the protest is 100% legal. Luke has made it clear that the Free and retry Luke Mitchell group has his full backing and support. They I will now be posting all statements from Luke via myself.
Also they wish that all the group's come together and that any previous issues are put to bed! Luke has said that he doesn't want animosity between the groups, everyone on these groups are supposed to be here for one reason only and should all be fighting for the same cause! Luke is in charge of his life from now NO ONE ELSE!! He has taken a back seat for far too long and isn't doing it anymore.
*If you are attending any protests please wear a mask and follow all covid guide lines that are in place on the date of the protest.*
Luke and Corinne thank everyone on this group! The support is absolutely amazing! From the bonus ball tickets to raising awareness and being involved and organising two protests! It's all greatly appreciated! All money this group has raised goes directly into a bank account for Corinne.
Luke does not want photos of Jodi distributed for his fight for justice, this is insensitive to Jodis family and friends, and creates bad press for him. It is not and has never been Luke's wishes for us to find the real killer. Our job is to get Luke free and home to his mum. For anyone else to be investigated and/or charged Luke must be acquitted first.
Luke has also advised Sandra that all documents that have been withheld from the public for years be released immediately. He has been too concerned about upsetting other people, and following other wishes,but has lost his childhood, teenage years and adolescence. He will not stand for this anymore.
Luke appreciates your support and welcomes future peaceful protests and any other means of support which are within the law. All ideas from ANY groups MUST be ran by Luke in the first instance before anything is done.
Also Luke has made it very clear that the 'official' group does not speak for him nor has it ever. If you have any questions or would like to run anything by Luke please message myself as I am in daily contact with Corinne and every two days with Luke.
THANK YOU EVERYONE FOR YOUR CONTINUED SUPPORT AND HELPING ME FIGHT FOR MY FREEDOM!! BIG THINGS ARE COMING!!
Luke and Corinne have gave me permission to share with this group some pictures from his childhood. These pictures are not in the public domain. So keep your eyes peeled, I will post one later today!
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#lukemitchellisinnocent #freelukemitchell
Another version ⬇️
June 26 at 12:26 PM Lisa C Reynolds Peden Admin
THIS STATEMENT IS FROM LUKE AND CORINNE:
I have spoken to Luke and Corinne both their wishes are that everyone who is able to, attends the protest on the 17th of July in Edinburgh! They are both one hundred percent behind this group and the protest that's been organised! Luke has spoken to people the last few days and made it very clear that he will not allow ANYONE to speak for him anymore. He is a man now and will not stay in the background and longer. He has dealt with the person/people who have been telling people not to attend this protest because it wasn't organised by the 'official' group. This is not Luke's wishes and the protest is 100% legal. Luke has made it clear that the Free and retry Luke Mitchell group has his full backing and support. They I will now be posting all statements from Luke via myself.
Also they wish that all the group's come together and that any previous issues are put to bed! Luke has said that he doesn't want animosity between the groups, everyone on these groups are supposed to be here for one reason only and should all be fighting for the same cause! Luke is in charge of his life from now NO ONE ELSE!! He has taken a back seat for far too long and isn't doing it anymore.
*If you are attending any protests please wear a mask and follow all covid guide lines that are in place on the date of the protest.*
Luke and Corinne thank everyone on this group! The support is absolutely amazing! From the bonus ball tickets to raising awareness and being involved and organising two protests! It's all greatly appreciated! All money this group has raised goes directly into a bank account for Corinne.
Luke does not want photos of Jodi distributed for his fight for justice, this is insensitive to Jodis family and friends, and creates bad press for him. It is not and has never been Luke's wishes for us to find the real killer, that's the police's job. But our job is to make people aware that Luke is 100% innocent. We all want Luke free and home to his mum. For anyone else to be investigated and/or charged Luke must be acquitted first.
Luke has also advised Sandra that all documents that have been withheld for years be released immediately. Were law allows of course, Luke's new lawyer will be looking over everything and advising what inform can be made more readily available. He has been too concerned about upsetting other people, and following other wishes,but has lost his childhood, teenage years and adolescence. He will not stand for this anymore.
Luke appreciates your support and welcomes future peaceful protests and any other means of support which are within the law. All ideas from ANY groups MUST be ran by Luke in the first instance before anything is done.
Also Luke has made it very clear that the 'official' group does not speak for him nor has it ever. If you have any questions or would like to run anything by Luke please message myself as I am in daily contact with Corinne and every two days with Luke.
THANK YOU EVERYONE FOR YOUR CONTINUED SUPPORT AND HELPING ME FIGHT FOR MY FREEDOM!! BIG THINGS ARE COMING!!
Luke and Corinne have gave me permission to share with this group some pictures from his childhood. These pictures are not in the public domain. So keep your eyes peeled, I will post one later today!
So which version of killer Luke and Corinne Mitchell’s statement did Sandra Lean respond to during her live video yesterday?
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’It is not and has never been Luke's wishes for us to find the real killer, that's the police's job.
The same police who he and his mother and Sandra have slated all these years ?
What a psychopathic moron!
http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=12082.msg652931#msg652931
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THANK YOU EVERYONE FOR YOUR CONTINUED SUPPORT AND HELPING ME FIGHT FOR MY FREEDOM!! BIG THINGS ARE COMING!!
The ‘big things are coming’ comment was posted by Sharon Indy Sunshine although her version is ‘a big change is coming’ (posted 2nd June 2021 on LM ‘official’)
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Lisa C Reynolds Peden
‘Obviously in time he wants the killer brought to justice. But Luke needs to be acquitted first because while he's in prison they will not even look at anyone else! He wants his name completely cleared.
Lisa Peden
@LisaPeden6
Why do people just assume that if your belief is LaVeyan Satanism it means devil worship and sacrifice. Do your research before you open your mouth!The media is ridiculous just because a wrongfully convicted prisoner requested The Satanic Bible doesn't mean he worships the devil!
6:54 PM · Jul 21, 2019·Twitter for Android
https://twitter.com/LisaPeden6/status/1153000421897711617
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Do you think there really ever was a new legal team?
No I don't.
The other important factor in all of this are the reports on CM's health? Getting kept under wraps, to not ask questions around her just that she is doing well? I wonder if this legal person/lawyer is not someone to take on case but to keep those case files safe. They can't just be passed about to any person. Is Ms Mitchells health more serious than is being let on? Uncertain thus the case files need to be kept somewhere should something happen with her? Kept safe for Luke? We know she could not take part in the protest and will not be at the next one. Why would LP have to be speaking, seeing her daily? And Luke every two days? is this even allowed unless there are personal circumstances that warrant it? Which could be the health of his mother?
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The other important factor in all of this are the reports on CM's health? Getting kept under wraps, to not ask questions around her just that she is doing well? I wonder if this legal person/lawyer is not someone to take on case but to keep those case files safe. They can't just be passed about to any person. Is Ms Mitchells health more serious than is being let on? Uncertain thus the case files need to be kept somewhere should something happen with her? Kept safe for Luke? We know she could not take part in the protest and will not be at the next one. Why would LP have to be speaking, seeing her daily? And Luke every two days? is this even allowed unless there are personal circumstances that warrant it? Which could be the health of his mother?
Someone has posted Corinne has been in hospital - so this is not a secret
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No I don't.
Me neither
The behaviour of all involved is looking very familiar to me
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Me neither
The behaviour of all involved is looking very familiar to me
Some of these people don't come across as being Luke Mitchell supporters at all. They come across as being Sandra Lean supporters. I may be wrong. I've only been interested in this for about 12 weeks but it certainly looks like that to me.
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Some of these people don't come across as being Luke Mitchell supporters at all. They come across as being Sandra Lean supporters. I may be wrong. I've only been interested in this for about 12 weeks but it certainly looks like that to me.
Well they will come to learn in time all isn’t as it appears re Sandra Lean if that is the case
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Some of these people don't come across as being Luke Mitchell supporters at all. They come across as being Sandra Lean supporters. I may be wrong. I've only been interested in this for about 12 weeks but it certainly looks like that to me.
Some of these people seem to have their own alleged axe to grind re the criminal justice system and appear to be using killer Luke Mitchell’s notoriety, following the airing of the sham channel 5 show, in some kind of attempt to get even
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The other important factor in all of this are the reports on CM's health? Getting kept under wraps, to not ask questions around her just that she is doing well? I wonder if this legal person/lawyer is not someone to take on case but to keep those case files safe. They can't just be passed about to any person. Is Ms Mitchells health more serious than is being let on? Uncertain thus the case files need to be kept somewhere should something happen with her? Kept safe for Luke? We know she could not take part in the protest and will not be at the next one. Why would LP have to be speaking, seeing her daily? And Luke every two days? is this even allowed unless there are personal circumstances that warrant it? Which could be the health of his mother?
Do you mean like a storage facility similar to MOJO?
‘But Mojo bosses last night said they were only providing “space and facilities” to Lean’
https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scottish-news/mum-jodi-jones-killer-fresh-16534131
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Some of these people seem to have their own alleged axe to grind re the criminal justice system and appear to be using killer Luke Mitchell’s notoriety, following the airing of the sham channel 5 show, in some kind of attempt to get even
8((()*/
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No I don't.
‘During a live Facebook video, Dr Lean said: “First up, Luke’s legal representation, I can’t say who, it’s in the very early stages at the minute but that was a big obstacle we had to get over.
“To get someone willing to take the case on and take it forward and now we have it.
“We are absolutely delighted with that.”
She continued: “The boxes of evidence will now go to Luke’s legal time and I won’t have them in my possession at all.” https://www.deadlinenews.co.uk/2021/06/14/scots-convicted-murderer-luke-mitchell-now-has-new-legal-representation-scottish-crime-news/amp/?__twitter_impression=true
What about those two external drives she allegedly purchased - will they also be going with the ‘boxes of evidence’ ?
I've bought two external drives so that Luke's entire case papers can be stored digitally (one is for backup, just in case), envelopes and stamps for the sorts of communications that still have to be done the old fashioned way, extra phone data and a five pack of black ink (for copies of case papers that also still have to be reproduced in the old fashioned format). I've also used some for fuel for case related travel. These are all things I've had to pay for myself in the past, so I can't thank you all enough for making it so much easier to just get what I need, when I need it. Thank you, thank you, thank you!!!!!
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The same police who he and his mother and Sandra have slated all these years ?
What a psychopathic moron!
http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=12082.msg652931#msg652931
Wait! Luke Mitchell has no interest in the police finding the vicious murderer of his girlfriend?? Why ever not?
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Wait! Luke Mitchell has no interest in the police finding the vicious murderer of his girlfriend?? Why ever not?
Oh I see. It IS the job of the police. So, sometimes he trusts them and sometimes he doesn't? Can't have it both ways.
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Oh I see. It IS the job of the police. So, sometimes he trusts them and sometimes he doesn't? Can't have it both ways.
As the police, and by extension the PF, are the only entity with the legal power to lay charges Luke doesn’t have much choice but to rely on them does he?
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As the police, and by extension the PF, are the only entity with the legal power to lay charges Luke doesn’t have much choice but to rely on them does he?
Then it's foolish for him to rely on them at all. Would you get in a boat because it MIGHT not sink?
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Then it's foolish for him to rely on them at all. Would you get in a boat because it MIGHT not sink?
All boats might not sink. Maybe you need to rethink your analogy.
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All boats might not sink. Maybe you need to rethink your analogy.
But according to Luke, one boat has so why would I rethink?
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‘It is not and has never been Luke's wishes for us to find the real killer, that's the police's job.[/b]
The same police who he and his mother and Sandra have slated all these years ?
What a psychopathic moron!
http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=12082.msg652931#msg652931
Wait! Luke Mitchell has no interest in the police finding the vicious murderer of his girlfriend?? Why ever not?
I found that statement telling
Whilst he may have said it to stop his ‘supporters’ accusing [Name removed]’s family members - it’s an odd statement to make
It is not and has never been
No because he’s the real killer attempting to get his murder conviction overturned on a technicality
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But according to Luke, one boat has so why would I rethink?
I’ve never heard Luke discussing boats. Do you have a link?
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I’ve never heard Luke discussing boats. Do you have a link?
Your sarcasm may amuse you and some others but if you have nothing to say then please don't waste precious minutes of your life on me because your "wit" is wasted on me.
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Your sarcasm may amuse you and some others but if you have nothing to say then please don't waste precious minutes of your life on me because your "wit" is wasted on me.
At last something we agree on.
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At last something we agree on.
I'm hurt and I'm angry but I will never turn into you. Yeah, your rubbish is wasted on me.
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I'm hurt and I'm angry but I will never turn into you. Yeah, your rubbish is wasted on me.
I’m crushed Rules…
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I’m crushed Rules…now I’ll only have the intelligent members to appreciate my humour.
Again, sarcastic rubbish.
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Um-----can we please keep the unpleasantness out of this discussion.
Thanks !
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Um-----can we please keep the unpleasantness out of this discussion.
Thanks !
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Is that aimed at me please? Because you have ignored much nastiness previously.
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‘During a live Facebook video, Dr Lean said: “First up, Luke’s legal representation, I can’t say who, it’s in the very early stages at the minute but that was a big obstacle we had to get over.
“To get someone willing to take the case on and take it forward and now we have it.
“We are absolutely delighted with that.”
She continued: “The boxes of evidence will now go to Luke’s legal time and I won’t have them in my possession at all.” https://www.deadlinenews.co.uk/2021/06/14/scots-convicted-murderer-luke-mitchell-now-has-new-legal-representation-scottish-crime-news/amp/?__twitter_impression=true
What about those two external drives she allegedly purchased - will they also be going with the ‘boxes of evidence’ ?
A little bit on how secure evidence is with lawyers. I handed over some very crucial original documents to my lawyers and they managed to lose them. Subsequently we had to use photocopies in court which went against us. When I complained, each lawyer firm blamed the other for the loss.
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We have all been watching this troop of YouTube star wannabes. Sharon Indy Sunshine, Danielle Bbarclay and Kenny O’Hara. Continue to do video after video on the Luke Mitchell case. It is clear by the way their group members are talking about the group's admin and their inflated egos that they have lost sight of the reason why they started their campaign. They are all desperately vying for adulation and praise.
Someone I know has recently watched Sandra Leans latest Facebook video and they’ve said it reminds them a lot of Nxivm cult leaders talk.
They’ve also said she must be using Neurolinguistic Programming
I tend to agree
She certainly appears to have a cult like following after her latest performance
She didn’t fool me though
And it doesn’t look as though the press were taken in by it either
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Someone I know has recently watched Sandra Leans latest Facebook video and they’ve said it reminds them a lot of Nxivm cult leaders talk.
They’ve also said she must be using Neurolinguistic Programming
I tend to agree
She certainly appears to have a cult like following after her latest performance
She didn’t fool me though
And it doesn’t look as though the press were taken in by it either
Loads of 8((()*/ for you today.
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Is that a Facebook Group?
Can see the Jones family objecting to Jodi's name being used in that way.
It's pretty monstrous to use a murdered girl's name in such a manner alongside that of her murderer.
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It's pretty monstrous to use a murdered girl's name in such a manner alongside that of her murderer.
I think monstrous is rather over egging the pudding…insensitive would be a better description I think.
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Is that aimed at me please? Because you have ignored much nastiness previously.
Not only you! I have had to edit/delete quite a few posts in the last few days----from various people.
I have been away recently, and apologise for what I've missed. I am very much here now, however!
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Not only you! I have had to edit/delete quite a few posts in the last few days----from various people.
I have been away recently, and apologise for what I've missed. I am very much here now, however!
Maybe you could address the two-pronged attack on Nicholas in the 'wheels off' thread, then?
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Maybe you could address the two-pronged attack on Nicholas in the 'wheels off' thread, then?
Can address all the personal attacks on Sandra Lean running throughout the forum too then. Fairs fair. Eh
Oh and the attacks with full names on others on a Facebook group asking for personal info they have been involved with. They have had the names edited but didn't stop Nicholas posting them for all to see.
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Can address all the personal attacks on Sandra Lean running throughout the forum too then. Fairs fair. Eh
Does SL post on here, then?
Glad you agree you're tag-teaming on Nicholas.
No need for it, though, is there?
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Does SL post on here, then?
Glad you agree you're tag-teaming on Nicholas.
No need for it, though, is there?
I'm not tag teaming anyone. Yesterday was two people talking to each other all day calling various people out as they see fit true or not
Nicholas can quote every action or word spoken or written by Sandra Lean so am I wrong
Takes some hours and dedication to achieve that shared for us all to see. Maybe if she doesn't want to leave that impression then dont do it ??????
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I'm not tag teaming anyone. Yesterday was two people talking to each other all day calling various people out as they see fit true or not
Nicholas can quote every action or word spoken or written by Sandra Lean so am I wrong
Takes some hours and dedication to achieve that shared for us all to see. Maybe if she doesn't want to leave that impression then dont do it ??????
That's up to them if they want to do that.
SL et al have attempted to make a name for themselves on the back of a landmark case - to an extent, they have, and it seems they take flak from the campaign - a few words on an internet forum isn't much to worry about.
Nicholas has reasons for the stance on SL.
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That's up to them if they want to do that.
SL et al have attempted to make a name for themselves on the back of a landmark case - to an extent, they have, and it seems they flak from the campaign - a few words on an internet forum isn't much to worry about.
Nicholas has reasons for the stance on SL.
So it doesn't matter if it's true or not then. That is a cop out. plus you decided to call us out for doing what Nicholas does day In day out. Fair and reasonable? NO
What about the individuals who have been named accused and attacked who don't post on here either?
I have seen many names mentioned Including demands to know what their personal circumstances are just because they made a post somewhere she happen to read double standards or what
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So it doesn't matter if it's true or not then. That is a cop out. plus you decided to call us out for doing what Nicholas does day In day out. Fair and reasonable? NO
What about the individuals who have been named accused and attacked who don't post on here either?
I have seen many names mentioned Including demands to know what their personal circumstances are just because they made a post somewhere she happen to read double standards or what
Like I said, that's up to them if they want to do that - the moderators will remove anything inappropriate.
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I’m afraid your support is misplaced.
TBH if I was Dr Lean I would have had several of you in court over the allegations made on this forum. I’m sure she would have been able to find a solicitor who would represent her on a no win, no fee basis.
At the risk of tag teaming that seems to be acceptable on here firstly cos she doesn't post herself so is fair game and secondly it's in the name of the case.
It seems it's very wrong to try and attempt a balanced view of any subject as we are clearly wrong even when people have no clue about the truth ie Sandra helping on other cases. FACT.
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Sandra Lean destroyed any credibility she had a long time ago when she tried to get numerous murderers convictions overturned. Murderers who later confessed to their crimes. The Adrian Prout and the Simon Hall cases being two such examples.
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Sandra Lean destroyed any credibility she had a long time ago when she tried to get numerous murderers convictions overturned. Murderers who later confessed to their crimes. The Adrian Prout and the Simon Hall cases being two such examples.
She wasn't alone in believing in Hall. Back in the day other suspects were named and shamed wrongly. Short memories and all that
As a person she deserves none of the disgusting comments made about her on this forum. Neither do the others connected to her in any small way
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I would suggest that, since we all know full well what tomorrow's date is, we make a determined effort to refrain from making nasty comments about anybody, whether we agree with their views or not!
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I would suggest that, since we all know full well what tomorrow's date is, we make a determined effort to refrain from making nasty comments about anybody, whether we agree with their views or not!
It would be nice to make that the way forward each and every day too. Good call.
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Sandra Lean destroyed any credibility she had a long time ago when she tried to get numerous murderers convictions overturned. Murderers who later confessed to their crimes. The Adrian Prout and the Simon Hall cases being two such examples.
It’s not about credibility. As has been pointed out you yourself have also made erroneous judgements when it has come to miscarriages of justice. This is about character assassination and not a little misogyny.
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It’s not about credibility. As has been pointed out you yourself have also made erroneous judgements when it has come to miscarriages of justice. This is about character assassination and not a little misogyny.
Says the woman who had spent years looking down her nose at Kate McCann.
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I would suggest that, since we all know full well what tomorrow's date is, we make a determined effort to refrain from making nasty comments about anybody, whether we agree with their views or not!
Or indeed on any day.
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Keep up the great work Nic. Despite the constant toxic attempts to silence you over the years. There are those that appreciate the excellent work you put in exposing these frauds.
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It would be nice to make that the way forward each and every day too. Good call.
Only just a few days ago, you came on here and accused MK of all sorts, you also said you would provide evidence in a few days. Your few days is up. Lets see this evidence..
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Only just a few days ago, you came on here and accused MK of all sorts, you also said you would provide evidence in a few days. Your few days is up. Lets see this evidence..
Did you not read the post by mrswah or does that just apply to Nicholas. Quit the name calling.i have never accused anyone of anything. Yes I have put forward some things for SF which I would continue with and NO I have not accused anyone of killing Jodi. A bit of respect considering the day tomorrow eh
Ps i did not promise to provide anything. I don't have Luke's legal papers or access to SF uni life not that anyone should want or be entitled to see that anyway
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Did you not read the post by mrswah or does that just apply to Nicholas. Quit the name calling.i have never accused anyone of anything. Yes I have put forward some things for SF which I would continue with and NO I have not accused anyone of killing Jodi. A bit of respect considering the day tomorrow eh
Ps i did not promise to provide anything. I don't have Luke's legal papers or access to SF uni life not that anyone should want or be entitled to see that anyway
So you are not going to back up with evidence, the claims you made about MK?
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So you are not going to back up with evidence, the claims you made about MK? Glad we have cleared that up. So what exactly is your roll here? To attack other posters and like posts by others? She has over 17'000 of them. I suggest to get a move on, pettle.
Grow up. Why the attack on a poster who, as far as I can see, has never attacked you? The sheer hypocrisy of you and your ilk is eye watering at times.
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So you are not going to back up with evidence, the claims you made about MK? Glad we have cleared that up. So what exactly is your roll here? To attack other posters and like posts by others? She has over 17'000 of them. I suggest to get a move on, pettle.
Please quote me right...SF said he would be providing info in the upcoming days not me
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Grow up. Why the attack on a poster who, as far as I can see, has never attacked you? The sheer hypocrisy of you and your ilk is eye watering at times.
Thank you and that is correct
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Grow up. Why the attack on a poster who, as far as I can see, has never attacked you? The sheer hypocrisy of you and your ilk is eye watering at times.
*bites tongue hard*
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It's pretty monstrous to use a murdered girl's name in such a manner alongside that of her murderer.
This is monstrous too.
From the Official Group
Lianna Mackie
Tomorrow marks 18 years since Jodi was tragically taken. As a mark of respect, at midnight tonight we will be closing the group. It shall remain closed throughout tomorrow, and will reopen at 10.10am on Thursday 1st July.
For the remainder of Thursday, this will be the only post that will be open for comments. And it will only be to receive kind words for Jodi, and in remembrance of Jodi.
No other posts will be accepted into the group until the 2nd of July when we will fully open up again. However, please bare with us. For the members of our team who personally knew Jodi, or know Luke, it is a delicate time of year. And for the rest of the team who have tirelessly fought for justice, whether for years, or for months, it’s been a tough few months behind the scenes. We will be taking some time to regroup, speak to Luke, and figure out the best way forward. We will update you all as soon as we can. Let’s not speculate, and remain calm and united in a fight for justice for Luke, but most importantly for Jodi.
Jodi was a true individual, she just shone. And I have no doubt, had she still been here today, she’d be absolutely amazing at whatever she chose to do. The empty space she left in so many hearts is immeasurable.
“Come as you are, as you were,
As I want you to be,
As a friend, as a friend.”
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This is monstrous too.
From the Official Group
Lianna Mackie
Tomorrow marks 18 years since Jodi was tragically taken. As a mark of respect, at midnight tonight we will be closing the group. It shall remain closed throughout tomorrow, and will reopen at 10.10am on Thursday 1st July.
For the remainder of Thursday, this will be the only post that will be open for comments. And it will only be to receive kind words for Jodi, and in remembrance of Jodi.
No other posts will be accepted into the group until the 2nd of July when we will fully open up again. However, please bare with us. For the members of our team who personally knew Jodi, or know Luke, it is a delicate time of year. And for the rest of the team who have tirelessly fought for justice, whether for years, or for months, it’s been a tough few months behind the scenes. We will be taking some time to regroup, speak to Luke, and figure out the best way forward. We will update you all as soon as we can. Let’s not speculate, and remain calm and united in a fight for justice for Luke, but most importantly for Jodi.
Jodi was a true individual, she just shone. And I have no doubt, had she still been here today, she’d be absolutely amazing at whatever she chose to do. The empty space she left in so many hearts is immeasurable.
“Come as you are, as you were,
As I want you to be,
As a friend, as a friend.”
Why is it monstrous? It is perfectly possible to respect Jodi and her family, while believing Luke to be innocent of her murder.
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Why is it monstrous? It is perfectly possible to respect Jodi and her family, while believing Luke to be innocent of her murder.
I'm sorry - that is truly horrendous is it not? Are these not the words on this girls headstone chosen by her family for her? That this person is using, who is saying the person who murdered her, the very reason this girl has a headstone with those words - is innocent. Hang your head in shame LM! How very insensitive. These campaigners, the same one's using this girls picture? Disgusting.
Perhaps not monstrous but it is disgusting to use this.
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Why is it monstrous? It is perfectly possible to respect Jodi and her family, while believing Luke to be innocent of her murder.
Is this some kind of joke?
These people do not speak for the Jones, utterly disgusting to use a phase from the headstone.
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I'm sorry - that is truly horrendous is it not? Are these not the words on this girls headstone chosen by her family for her? That this person is using, who is saying the person who murdered her, the very reason this girl has a headstone with those words - is innocent. Hang your head in shame LM! How very insensitive. These campaigners, the same one's using this girls picture? Disgusting.
Perhaps not monstrous but it is disgusting to use this.
Ah, I hadn't realised the words were from Jodi's headstone.
I will stand by what I said, however, on the other point I made.
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Is this some kind of joke?
These people do not speak for the Jones, utterly disgusting to use a phase from the headstone.
Some of them were friends with Jodi. If they hadn't mentioned anything that would be wrong too
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Why is it monstrous? It is perfectly possible to respect Jodi and her family, while believing Luke to be innocent of her murder.
Of course it is and who knows some of Jodi’s extended family might think he’s innocent too.
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Some of them were friends with Jodi. If they hadn't mentioned anything that would be wrong too
It’s that infantile assumption that if you believe Luke to innocent then you can’t possibly be appalled at what happened to Jodi and want justice for her. For me it’s quiet the opposite. Jodi deserved a far more professional investigation than the lazy on she received.
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It’s that infantile assumption that if you believe Luke to innocent then you can’t possibly be appalled at what happened to Jodi and want justice for her. For me it’s quiet the opposite. Jodi deserved a far more professional investigation than the lazy on she received.
I agree with your comments and that's the reason I have shared some of the comments that I have. Every possible stone should have been unturned, and it wasnt
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Some of them were friends with Jodi. If they hadn't mentioned anything that would be wrong too
I agree. I would have been disgusted had they not acknowledged the date.
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Some of them were friends with Jodi. If they hadn't mentioned anything that would be wrong too
No they weren’t! Some of them went to the same school she went to - there’s a difference
Derek Edmund publicly stated he once saw [Name removed] and her killer in the school playground
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No they weren’t! Some of them went to the same school she went to - there’s a difference
Derek Edmund publicly stated he once saw [Name removed] and her killer in the school playground
So you know better than people who were actually her friends? How is that?
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So you know better than people who were actually her friends? How is that?
Laura Wightman was allegedly a friend
Where’s she?
Kirsten was one of [Name removed]’s genuine friends https://www.thefreelibrary.com/JODI+JONES%3A+HER+SOULMATES+My+Luke+has+all+these+knives+in+his...-a0127512558
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Laura Wightman was allegedly a friend
Where’s she?
Kirsten was one of [Name removed]’s genuine friends https://www.thefreelibrary.com/JODI+JONES%3A+HER+SOULMATES+My+Luke+has+all+these+knives+in+his...-a0127512558
Perhaps Laura’s memories of Jodi were too precious to be bought?
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Perhaps Laura’s memories of Jodi were too precious to be bought?
‘But only weeks into the relationship, Jodi became worried about Mitchell's close friendship with Laura Wightman, a girl he would later take to her graveside.
Kirsten said: 'Laura was with Luke a lot and once Jodi heard that he might have been cheating on her but I think she spoke to him and they sorted it out.'
https://www.thefreelibrary.com/JODI+JONES%3A+HER+SOULMATES+My+Luke+has+all+these+knives+in+his...-a0127512558
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I’m really not sure the point you are trying to make. Could you explain please?
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Why is it monstrous? It is perfectly possible to respect Jodi and her family, while believing Luke to be innocent of her murder.
If you read it the post isn't dedicated to Jodi at all. Or Luke.
It's used Jodi ‘s name and memory to advertise the fact that they are going to take the time to talk to Luke, regroup and decide on the Official’s “best way forward”
The post isn't about Jodi at all, it's about them as a group.
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I’m really not sure the point you are trying to make. Could you explain please?
Have you seen Laura Wightmans police witness statement ?
And did she omit anything from it?
What did she say to police about killer Luke Mitchell and her relationship with him?
Was she honest?
Did [Name removed]’s and killer LM argue about Laura Wightman on the day he murdered her?
Had [Name removed] finally sussed him out and called him out on his deception?
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Ah, I hadn't realised the words were from Jodi's headstone.
I will stand by what I said, however, on the other point I made.
It has always been the case, this mark of respect on these forums. And I still stand by my point, that is is disgusting to use Jodi's families words for their daughter/sister on a forum that supports her murderer. More so when it has always been clear by their silence that they have voiced no doubt upon his conviction. May Justice prevail always in this case.
And upon very good authority I will leave you with that direction to the jury, of the acceptance of a strong majority of no less than 13. In circumstantial cases there is always going to be room for doubt upon those who need direct evidence.
And thoughts with this young girl and her family as we all respect that sorrowful day tomorrow.
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It has always been the case, this mark of respect on these forums. And I still stand by my point, that is is disgusting to use Jodi's families words for their daughter/sister on a forum that supports her murderer. More so when it has always been clear by their silence that they have voiced no doubt upon his conviction. May Justice prevail always in this case.
And upon very good authority I will leave you with that direction to the jury, of the acceptance of a strong majority of no less than 13. In circumstantial cases there is always going to be room for doubt upon those who need direct evidence.
And thoughts with this young girl and her family as we all respect that sorrowful day tomorrow.
They are Nirvana’s words not those of the Jones family. Further there are many reasons for remaining silent, family pressure, not wishing to upset other family members, valuing privacy etc, etc.
Unless you are willing to reveal on whose ‘very good authority’ you learned this direction by the judge I think the members are quite at liberty to treat your claim as yet another piece of the misinformation you are now famous for spreading. I post that the jury could have been split 7/8 and you suddenly have a source, that you’ve never mentioned before, who says otherwise.
I think it’s time to put up….well you know the rest.
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Another version ⬇️
June 26 at 12:26 PM Lisa C Reynolds Peden Admin
THIS STATEMENT IS FROM LUKE AND CORINNE:
I have spoken to Luke and Corinne both their wishes are that everyone who is able to, attends the protest on the 17th of July in Edinburgh! They are both one hundred percent behind this group and the protest that's been organised! Luke has spoken to people the last few days and made it very clear that he will not allow ANYONE to speak for him anymore. He is a man now and will not stay in the background and longer. He has dealt with the person/people who have been telling people not to attend this protest because it wasn't organised by the 'official' group. This is not Luke's wishes and the protest is 100% legal. Luke has made it clear that the Free and retry Luke Mitchell group has his full backing and support. They I will now be posting all statements from Luke via myself.
Also they wish that all the group's come together and that any previous issues are put to bed! Luke has said that he doesn't want animosity between the groups, everyone on these groups are supposed to be here for one reason only and should all be fighting for the same cause! Luke is in charge of his life from now NO ONE ELSE!! He has taken a back seat for far too long and isn't doing it anymore.
*If you are attending any protests please wear a mask and follow all covid guide lines that are in place on the date of the protest.*
Luke and Corinne thank everyone on this group! The support is absolutely amazing! From the bonus ball tickets to raising awareness and being involved and organising two protests! It's all greatly appreciated! All money this group has raised goes directly into a bank account for Corinne.
Luke does not want photos of Jodi distributed for his fight for justice, this is insensitive to Jodis family and friends, and creates bad press for him. It is not and has never been Luke's wishes for us to find the real killer, that's the police's job. But our job is to make people aware that Luke is 100% innocent. We all want Luke free and home to his mum. For anyone else to be investigated and/or charged Luke must be acquitted first.
Luke has also advised Sandra that all documents that have been withheld for years be released immediately. Were law allows of course, Luke's new lawyer will be looking over everything and advising what inform can be made more readily available. He has been too concerned about upsetting other people, and following other wishes,but has lost his childhood, teenage years and adolescence. He will not stand for this anymore.
Luke appreciates your support and welcomes future peaceful protests and any other means of support which are within the law. All ideas from ANY groups MUST be ran by Luke in the first instance before anything is done.
Also Luke has made it very clear that the 'official' group does not speak for him nor has it ever. If you have any questions or would like to run anything by Luke please message myself as I am in daily contact with Corinne and every two days with Luke.
THANK YOU EVERYONE FOR YOUR CONTINUED SUPPORT AND HELPING ME FIGHT FOR MY FREEDOM!! BIG THINGS ARE COMING!!
Luke and Corinne have gave me permission to share with this group some pictures from his childhood. These pictures are not in the public domain. So keep your eyes peeled, I will post one later today!
Paula
‘I received this message this morning from a reliable source..
Makes you think doesn't it.. In all honesty it makes me personally, question Lisa Peden, and those on the "Groups" Agenda...
"Good morning Paula.
I just noticed you've got the "statement" on the group page. You probably don't know, but this is the altered version - they changed it after Sandra's live on Sunday. The original didn't include "Were [where] law allows of course, Luke's new lawyer will be looking over everything and advising what inform [information] can be made more readily available."
That was clearly in Sandra's response to her comment that it would be an offence to release the documents - that part of the statement reads very differently without the caveat of "where laws allow." Also, how can She have been told to release everything immediately if it's dependent on what the lawyer (who doesn't have the papers yet) says?
This makes no sense. Why would someone alter the original Statement?!!
Why are people doing this?? To make Sandra look bad?? "
Seems Paula, and many others, are focusing on Sandra Lean and not killer Luke Mitchell
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Paula
‘I received this message this morning from a reliable source..
Makes you think doesn't it.. In all honesty it makes me personally, question Lisa Peden, and those on the "Groups" Agenda...
"Good morning Paula.
I just noticed you've got the "statement" on the group page. You probably don't know, but this is the altered version - they changed it after Sandra's live on Sunday. The original didn't include "Were [where] law allows of course, Luke's new lawyer will be looking over everything and advising what inform [information] can be made more readily available."
That was clearly in Sandra's response to her comment that it would be an offence to release the documents - that part of the statement reads very differently without the caveat of "where laws allow." Also, how can She have been told to release everything immediately if it's dependent on what the lawyer (who doesn't have the papers yet) says?
This makes no sense. Why would someone alter the original Statement?!!
Why are people doing this?? To make Sandra look bad?? "
Seems Paula, and many others, are focusing on Sandra Lean and not killer Luke Mitchell
I wonder if the message Paula received was taken from something Sandra Lean originally wrote?
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They are Nirvana’s words not those of the Jones family. Further there are many reasons for remaining silent, family pressure, not wishing to upset other family members, valuing privacy etc, etc.
Unless you are willing to reveal on whose ‘very good authority’ you learned this direction by the judge I think the members are quite at liberty to treat your claim as yet another piece of the misinformation you are now famous for spreading. I post that the jury could have been split 7/8 and you suddenly have a source, that you’ve never mentioned before, who says otherwise.
I think it’s time to put up….well you know the rest.
I won't even ask for a cite as way of proof. Neither will I need one to state that Nirvana far less Kurt Cobain chose those words for this girls memorial stone. Best to leave it at that in case this tiny spot of cyber space, "two bit forum" should be read and the Jones family get done over copyright issues. ;-)
Perhaps now that Mitchell has suddenly reached manhood he will tell the truth, one has their doubts however. That the many people who read this thread may ask him about that direction. Does it matter if I am believed in this "two bit forum?" It is insignificant is it not? Oddly or coincidently? many of the points raised have found their way over to different groups/social media. Ms Lean no less has brought up several areas of discussion from here. This forum that she has always maintained she will never be a part of, for personal reasons over her claimed distaste? Oddly or coincidently yet again - she is far from not being actively part of it, to the point where one can almost see those strings being pulled on her puppets?
Of these character assassination claims, a far cry from those over time who have received this treatment? Which stemmed directly from that period of time prior to Mitchells arrest. The formation of that jigsaw in the birth of Jigsawman? One could accurately describe it as hounding people mercilessly, one person/family in particular to have them in that top spot of suspects publicly. Via a book and onto the cover of this doc with that intentional blip at the end. And perhaps this plays a real part in why there is that withdrawal - mission accomplished in getting it out there. And I am not talking of the case of LM V HMA here, but that of Jigsawman V these others.Where this woman clearly believed, in excess of 7 months prior to Mitchells arrest that there was no case to answer to. - How gravely wrong has she been albeit steadfast in touting one's wares? Her questions set in stone then were never going to go away. Most of which were formed whilst colluding with the Mitchells. The murderer his mother and friend?
Ah the infamous shampoo by Parky, that cherry picking of wording. - Of Ms Lean knowing that the doctor meant Mitchells hair was greasy, dirty, manky, not washed for days due to the doctor not saying, "It smelled of shampoo" So let us think of misinformation and of that doctors report and that verbatim of "unwashed". And now some proper context. This report is from samples taken between 5-6am some 12 hours after the murder. The doctor took a sample, his hair was not forensically tested all over for blood and all else. The sample was for comparison of anything that may be found at the crime scene. And how this appeared "unwashed" some 12hrs later. Now the boys in the wood. Of LM being somewhat cleaner, of his hair being different - not his usual unkempt self. Let's go further back to the murder and of that parka with it's hood, with boots on covering his ankles over his socks and trousers. So we have a boy covered quite literally from head to foot. We have an area which is surrounded by rivers. We have a house just minutes from the murder scene. It is detached. And out of all these people (others) LM's is the one house that required just a very short distance to reach from the woodland.The duo a noisy bike, two of them over an open exposed area of paths onto field and house. Seen. SK a village and a half away with a solid alibi that was not concocted, he knew not of when one was required for. Completely oblivious to his DNA being present. For that is the reality here, of not striving to give one The Jones house, half a village away. And again no concoction of anything, no need to make anything up. It was as it was.
To conclude of what I have witnessed by reading these many forums. That there has been a clear vendetta against these others, namely Jodi's family. That stemmed from that friendship with the Mitchells at a time they thought there would be no arrest. The birth of that first question. Of double standards, of why these two families were not being treated the same? Of why others appeared to be eliminated when one thought there was still a killer out there (SL) That these claims have always been without foundation. For there was no way of knowing at the time and onwards of how the investigation had been led. That ones personal niggles and beliefs had no place in the slightest upon the murder of Jodi Jones. More so, when one had the projection of what is claimed to have happened put to them by the actual murderer. Exactly how much of a mug has the Jigsawman then to present day been? - believing not for a moment they could outsmart those who truly matter, but certainly those whom give not a jot for the actual truth. And we know this, as common sense tells those with it - that the truth does not lie in a book, from one whom colluded from the off with Luke Mitchell and his mother. That there can be no doubt of the lies told. No need for scraping at the bottom of any barrels. Scraping to project this, but "what about them?"
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Many thanks yet again Faith, your knowledge is nothing short of astounding. I won't even ask for a cite as way of proof. Neither will I need one to state that Nirvana far less Kurt Cobain chose those words for this girls memorial stone. Best to leave it at that in case this tiny spot of cyber space, "two bit forum" should be read and the Jones family get done over copyright issues. ;-)
Perhaps now that Mitchell has suddenly reached manhood he will tell the truth, one has their doubts however. That the many people who read this thread may ask him about that direction. Does it matter if I am believed in this "two bit forum?" It is insignificant is it not? Oddly or coincidently? many of the points raised have found their way over to different groups/social media. Ms Lean no less has brought up several areas of discussion from here. This forum that she has always maintained she will never be a part of, for personal reasons over her claimed distaste? Oddly or coincidently yet again - she is far from not being actively part of it, to the point where one can almost see those strings being pulled on her puppets?
Of these character assassination claims, a far cry from those over time who have received this treatment? Which stemmed directly from that period of time prior to Mitchells arrest. The formation of that jigsaw in the birth of Jigsawman? One could accurately describe it as hounding people mercilessly, one person/family in particular to have them in that top spot of suspects publicly. Via a book and onto the cover of this doc with that intentional blip at the end. And perhaps this plays a real part in why there is that withdrawal - mission accomplished in getting it out there. And I am not talking of the case of LM V HMA here, but that of Jigsawman V these others.Where this woman clearly believed, in excess of 7 months prior to Mitchells arrest that there was no case to answer to. - How gravely wrong has she been albeit steadfast in touting one's wares? Her questions set in stone then were never going to go away. Most of which were formed whilst colluding with the Mitchells. The murderer his mother and friend?
Ah the infamous shampoo by Parky, that cherry picking of wording. - Of Ms Lean knowing that the doctor meant Mitchells hair was greasy, dirty, manky, not washed for days due to the doctor not saying, "It smelled of shampoo" So let us think of misinformation and of that doctors report and that verbatim of "unwashed". And now some proper context. This report is from samples taken between 5-6am some 12 hours after the murder. The doctor took a sample, his hair was not forensically tested all over for blood and all else. The sample was for comparison of anything that may be found at the crime scene. And how this appeared "unwashed" some 12hrs later. Now the boys in the wood. Of LM being somewhat cleaner, of his hair being different - not his usual unkempt self. Let's go further back to the murder and of that parka with it's hood, with boots on covering his ankles over his socks and trousers. So we have a boy covered quite literally from head to foot. We have an area which is surrounded by rivers. We have a house just minutes from the murder scene. It is detached. And out of all these people (others) LM's is the one house that required just a very short distance to reach from the woodland.The duo a noisy bike, two of them over an open exposed area of paths onto field and house. Seen. SK a village and a half away with a solid alibi that was not concocted, he knew not of when one was required for. Completely oblivious to his DNA being present. For that is the reality here, of not striving to give one The Jones house, half a village away. And again no concoction of anything, no need to make anything up. It was as it was.
To conclude of what I have witnessed by reading these many forums. That there has been a clear vendetta against these others, namely Jodi's family. That stemmed from that friendship with the Mitchells at a time they thought there would be no arrest. The birth of that first question. Of double standards, of why these two families were not being treated the same? Of why others appeared to be eliminated when one thought there was still a killer out there (SL) That these claims have always been without foundation. For there was no way of knowing at the time and onwards of how the investigation had been led. That ones personal niggles and beliefs had no place in the slightest upon the murder of Jodi Jones. More so, when one had the projection of what is claimed to have happened put to them by the actual murderer. Exactly how much of a mug has the Jigsawman then to present day been? - believing not for a moment they could outsmart those who truly matter, but certainly those whom give not a jot for the actual truth. And we know this, as common sense tells those with it - that the truth does not lie in a book, from one whom colluded from the off with Luke Mitchell and his mother. That there can be no doubt of the lies told. No need for scraping at the bottom of any barrels. Scraping to project this, but "what about them?"
This is what I asked.
‘Unless you are willing to reveal on whose ‘very good authority’ you learned this direction by the judge I think the members are quite at liberty to treat your claim as yet another piece of the misinformation you are now famous for spreading. I post that the jury could have been split 7/8 and you suddenly have a source, that you’ve never mentioned before, who says otherwise.’
Through your long, and rather torturous post, you appear to have answered every question, albeit dishonestly, but the one I asked. Deflection at its very best.
As Brietta has previously pointed out, you do not need to answer a question put to you if you chose not to but of course forum members are then quite at liberty to conclude that you’re telling a whopper and disregard your claim. That is the course I’m taking but of course if you can provide a cite I may just have to reconsider.
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This is what I asked.
‘Unless you are willing to reveal on whose ‘very good authority’ you learned this direction by the judge I think the members are quite at liberty to treat your claim as yet another piece of the misinformation you are now famous for spreading. I post that the jury could have been split 7/8 and you suddenly have a source, that you’ve never mentioned before, who says otherwise.’
Through your long, and rather torturous post, you appear to have answered every question, albeit dishonestly, but the one I asked. Deflection at its very best.
As Brietta has previously pointed out, you do not need to answer a question put to you if you chose not to but of course forum members are then quite at liberty to conclude that you’re telling a whopper and disregard your claim. That is the course I’m taking but of course if you can provide a cite I may just have to reconsider.
I will repeat, perhaps Mitchell will now be asked that question around the Judge's direction, perhaps he will be honest - we will not of course hold our breath upon Mitchells honesty. From the lies then to the convicted murderer he is. To clarify yet again less tortuously ;-) That information/questions are taken from here and asked directly elsewhere. Someone is paying attention.
Not everyone in life needs adulation and likes of their posts. Rather vain is it not?
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Thank you yet again Faith. That predictive, indicative response of projection. From that master puppet of distraction. Who body swerves away from direct questions continuously and lies to add weight to fallible reasoning. It matters not one jot to myself, that was my clear answer. In what you describe as this tiny spot of cyber space, "two bit forum" (loved the approval of that comment by your fair self Mr Swah, admin of this "two bit forum" On the other post Faith made attempting to bring down Nicholas. - class) If members like or hold belief in what I may post, it is of no consequence to myself. However torturous they may be to you Faith, perhaps you are into some form of word S&M ? For you certainly love to read them.
Therefore I will repeat, perhaps Mitchell will now be asked that question around the Judge's direction, perhaps he will be honest - we will not of course hold our breath upon Mitchells honesty. From the lies then to the convicted murderer he is. To clarify yet again less tortuously ;-) That information/questions are taken from here and asked directly elsewhere. Someone is paying attention.
Not everyone in life needs adulation and likes of their posts. Rather vain is it not?
You, not Mitchell, have been asked that question around the alleged Judge’s direction and you, not Mitchell, have refused consistently to provide a cite to validate you claim and by doing so it is your honesty that is in question at this point, not Mitchell’s.
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In response to the title of the thread, yes. It's a cult. Or it was.
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Of these character assassination claims, a far cry from those over time who have received this treatment? Which stemmed directly from that period of time prior to Mitchells arrest. The formation of that jigsaw in the birth of Jigsawman? One could accurately describe it as hounding people mercilessly, one person/family in particular to have them in that top spot of suspects publicly. Via a book and onto the cover of this doc with that intentional blip at the end. And perhaps this plays a real part in why there is that withdrawal - mission accomplished in getting it out there. And I am not talking of the case of LM V HMA here, but that of Jigsawman V these others.Where this woman clearly believed, in excess of 7 months prior to Mitchells arrest that there was no case to answer to. - How gravely wrong has she been albeit steadfast in touting one's wares? Her questions set in stone then were never going to go away. Most of which were formed whilst colluding with the Mitchells. The murderer his mother and friend?
Aka the ‘dark triad’
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You, not Mitchell, have been asked that question around the alleged Judge’s direction and you, not Mitchell, have refused consistently to provide a cite to validate you claim and by doing so it is your honesty that is in question at this point, not Mitchell’s.
That horrible defence of what should be indefensible
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Ah my dearest Faith, whilst I like feisty woman I draw the line at proven liars. When I first started discussion with yourself I admit to being somewhat drawn by your false sense of knowledge in this case. Lots of noise with little substance. The day you decided to blatantly lie, I ditched your credibility in the bin. Where my friend it rightly belongs. I suppose it comes down to trust in source. Of your friends whom you claim you have, to be trusted? The one who verified how long it took to eat a dinner in ten minutes was just the tops!.Fantastic stuff. Well surpassed the Scotmid one ;-) Perhaps you were lying about your sources? Perhaps that is why you project doubt upon others?
So while you stomp away on your keyboard/phone or whatever method you choose to use. With those somewhat infantile demands. Dear Faith please be advised with only your best interests at heart. Technology these days is expensive, please try not to break anything. Even that proverbial leg with your demands. You made me smile, even chuckle. Thank you.
Faux gratitude…the last refuge of the discredited debater.
Do you really think that by calling me a liar you take any heat at all away from your rather embarrassing inability to provide even a scintilla of evidence for your claim regarding the judge’s direction? You can however redeem yourself, and your credibility, even at this late stage, but providing that most simple of requests, a source for your claim.
The ball is in your court.
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Just a reminder------please do not call other posters liars.
Let's keep the discussion civilised, whatever views we hold re Luke Mitchell.
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Just a reminder------please do not call other posters liars.
Let's keep the discussion civilised, whatever views we hold re Luke Mitchell.
Am I allowed to post to you?
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Faux gratitude…the last refuge of the discredited debater.
Do you really think that by calling me a liar you take any heat at all away from your rather embarrassing inability to provide even a scintilla of evidence for your claim regarding the judge’s direction? You can however redeem yourself, and your credibility, even at this late stage, but providing that most simple of requests, a source for your claim.
The ball is in your court.
Ah so you got to it prior to Mr Swah removing it. Now now. Are we still playing demand here. You first for we are talking of trust in these sources we have are we not? So we will need your friends name that worked with Scotmid. Their employee status and proof of their time there. Of back up of the claims of how the whole system works, but above all them saying, along with their name that the police were lying, that there was nothing wrong with the till mechanism the day in question. Of how long they keep CCTV if there was any request for it and so forth. - Sound ridiculous? Or you could simply prove the word of my source to be wrong. I'm absolutely fine with that. Ask a friend? If not Mitchell himself. Of the direction in those case notes. It should be there, word for word.
Of this copy cat "ball in your court" game. I've said it before to you and I will do so again. Grow up faith. It is the campaigners attempting to prove a liar and murderer to be erm innocent that should worry about truth. Not us posters putting forward the Crowns case. It has already been proved. It matters not if it grinds you or anyone else personally involved.
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Some of them were friends with Jodi. If they hadn't mentioned anything that would be wrong too
Nobody is denying them the right to a tribute. The tribute that the did was just wrong.
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I agree. I would have been disgusted had they not acknowledged the date.
There were better ways that they could have gone about it.
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Ah so you got to it prior to Mr Swah removing it. Now now. Are we still playing demand here. You first for we are talking of trust in these sources we have are we not? So we will need your friends name that worked with Scotmid. Their employee status and proof of their time there. Of back up of the claims of how the whole system works, but above all them saying, along with their name that the police were lying, that there was nothing wrong with the till mechanism the day in question. Of how long they keep CCTV if there was any request for it and so forth. - Sound ridiculous? Or you could simply prove the word of my source to be wrong. I'm absolutely fine with that. Ask a friend? If not Mitchell himself. Of the direction in those case notes. It should be there, word for word.
Of this copy cat "ball in your court" game. I've said it before to you and I will do so again. Grow up faith. It is the campaigners attempting to prove a liar and murderer to be erm innocent that should worry about truth. Not us posters putting forward the Crowns case. It has already been proved. It matters not if it grinds you or anyone else personally involved.
To be clear I’m not demanding anything, I am simply asking you to respect forum rules.
For weeks, if not months I have put forward the perfectly reasonable deduction that it is possible with a majority verdict 7 out of the 15 jury members could have voted not to convict. For weeks if not months you have answered my posts without a whisper of the information you have latterly brought to the forum about the judge’s direction. So my first question would be why reveal it now?
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There were better ways that they could have gone about it.
Be honest, you wouldn’t have been satisfied no matter what the group had done to pay tribute. As it was some of your number decided to mark the day by, again, stalking anyone remotely linked to this case. Do you think that that was a fitting tribute?
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Maybe if you didn’t spend your time trolling her you’d be able to do something worthwhile too?
Trolling who? Sharon Sunshine? I have never tolled her. You've accused me of it so please show proof of this imaginary trolling. Thanks.
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Trolling who? Sharon Sunshine? I have never tolled her. You've accused me of it so please show proof of this imaginary trolling. Thanks.
The last few posts I've read from certain people on here reminds me of the bullies at school. Desperate to impress rude couldnt care less makes no sense and wrong
Read some of the comments back
Its already been asked but where was the respect on the day of the anniversary and where is the respect with demands to read every single word about the case where a young girl was slaughtered
For your entertainment it seems as it's a full time job.
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Yet again I have had to delete posts because they are unacceptably rude.
Please follow the forum rules, and show respect to other posters. Thank you.
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Yet again I have had to delete posts because they are unacceptably rude.
Please follow the forum rules, and show respect to other posters. Thank you.
You have also left damaging posts with no cities, nothing to back up claims, nothing but accusations made with no backing so ,forgive me if I come across as rude but I was just looking for, fair.
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Be honest, you wouldn’t have been satisfied no matter what the group had done to pay tribute. As it was some of your number decided to mark the day by, again, stalking anyone remotely linked to this case. Do you think that that was a fitting tribute?
Stalking? It's all over social media. If that makes me a stalker for being on social media. Surely you being in the forum in the same thing? No? (&^& @)(++(* *&^^& *&^^& *&^^& *&^^&
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Posted today on the ‘unofficial’ LM Facebook page by Lisa C Reynolds Peden ⬇️
Luke has also advised Sandra that all documents that have been withheld from the public for years be released immediately. He has been too concerned about upsetting other people, and following other wishes,but has lost his childhood, teenage years and adolescence. He will not stand for this anymore.
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What is the penalty in Scotland if someone - a lay person not a lawyer - were to publish for example Killer Luke Mitchell’s police witness statements?
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What is the penalty in Scotland if someone - a lay person not a lawyer - were to publish for example Killer Luke Mitchell’s police witness statements?
Would it be a crime to publish LM's statement?
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Would it be a crime to publish LM's statement?
Was his first interview with police as a ‘witness’ manually recorded or tape recorded?
They’ll be transcripts of his tape recorded police interviews as opposed to handwritten statements
although I refer to them as ‘statements’ also
Given he’s in prison and doesn’t have access to the WWW - or at least shouldn’t have - he can’t physically publish his own statements/transcripts but Corinne could
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Lianna Mackie
‘KG we aren’t collapsing, never will. Just waiting to hear back from Luke, and go forward accordingly. I’ve been on this for 18 years, the world will collapse before I will x
Lianna Mackie
KG Sandra has only pulled out professionally for now, she is still very much a supporter, however. There is no confirmation that statement is Luke’s own words. But please know, the second we can confirm more we absolutely will. We don’t want to add to the rife speculation which helps no one, and the drama certainly doesn’t either. So until we have absolute facts to update you all with we are not commenting on anything.
Anyone know what her twitter account was suspended for? ⬇️
https://mobile.twitter.com/liannamackie?lang=en
Was her twitter suspension killer Luke Mitchell related?
And who’s ‘drama’ is she referring to - Sandra Leans?
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Paula (admin of the LM MOJ Facebook page)
‘LF why did Luke not mention any of this to Sandra when they spoke not 2 days before then? It really is baffling to me That "Statement" went up 2 days later and then AFTER Sandra's live, was altered to cover their own backs....
Really is something question is it not...?
What does Paula make of Sandra Leans behaviour ie; why Sandra chose to react as she did when she did without choosing to talk to killer Luke first?
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George Fergie
‘JPJ mate she publicly told folk to leave our group and join official, Sandra left the group before she was blocked
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Most of the time I'm on this forum I think of the Jones family. I have no idea if any of them look through this forum. I don't know them. Occasionally, I become so frustrated defending them and some innocent others that I forget about the very dignified silence Jodi's mother keeps. Nothing is expected of me except not to make their pain worse and I sincerely hope I haven't. Judy Jones is a hero to me. I hope Judy Jones realises how brave she is. I hope someone is beside her every day reminding her that vicious trolls are only that. That's all they are because they are keyboard cowards IMO. Judy Jones lives it. My apolology is to Judy Jones and no one else. I acknowledge Mark Kane's mother and despite her losing her only child, still acknowledged Judy Jones' greater pain. Another hero for me. Two heroes right there! IMO.
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Lianna Mackie
‘KG we aren’t collapsing, never will. Just waiting to hear back from Luke, and go forward accordingly. I’ve been on this for 18 years, the world will collapse before I will x
What does she think Luke will tell her re their ‘official’ Facebook group?
And didn’t she listen to what Sandra Lean stated?
SL
Luke doesn’t he doesn’t know the extent of social media like we do because he doesn’t have access to it
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The last few posts I've read from certain people on here reminds me of the bullies at school. Desperate to impress rude couldnt care less makes no sense and wrong
Read some of the comments back
Its already been asked but where was the respect on the day of the anniversary and where is the respect with demands to read every single word about the case where a young girl was slaughtered
For your entertainment it seems as it's a full time job.
You couldn't be more wrong. I know people involved. That's why I care.
Her name is Jodi Jones 🌻
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You couldn't be more wrong. I know people involved. That's why I care.
Her name is Jodi Jones 🌻
No im 100 per cent right. Im not talking about people outside this forum. Its all on here for everyone to see.
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What does she think Luke will tell her re their ‘official’ Facebook group?
And didn’t she listen to what Sandra Lean stated?
SL
it kills you that you dont know doesnt it?
Keep on quoting yourself banging the hate drum while time rolls on
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No im 100 per cent right. Im not talking about people outside this forum. Its all on here for everyone to see.
Nor am I.
Her name is Jodi Jones 🌻
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Nor am I.
Her name is Jodi Jones 🌻
Next you will be saying everyone respected the anniversary date and didn't post . Hmmm some of us didn't post. Others just could not help themselves
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Next you will be saying everyone respected the anniversary date and didn't post . Hmmm some of us didn't post. Others just could not help themselves
Neither could a certain newspaper!
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Next you will be saying everyone respected the anniversary date and didn't post . Hmmm some of us didn't post. Others just could not help themselves
Oh you couldn't be more wrong? You have no clue of why I would say or how my mind was. Rather presumtious of you to suggest that. Oh dear oh dear oh dear (&^&
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Oh you couldn't be more wrong? You have no clue of why I would say or how my mind was. Rather presumtious of you to suggest that. Oh dear oh dear oh dear (&^&
No presumption it's out there for all to see.
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No im 100 per cent right. Im not talking about people outside this forum. Its all on here for everyone to see.
Oh well if you said that it must be true 🙄🤔🤣
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Oh well if you said that it must be true 🙄🤔🤣
I didnt say it, i read it on here. Maybe some in the readiness to spread the word about SL dont actually read the posts or what day / time there were posted
Are you saying that no one posted on that day? even late into the evening &^^&*
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George Fergie
‘Guys can I just say am shocked at some of the messages am receiving regarding Sandra and the other group refusing to get on board with the protest that’s been set up for Edinburgh, I find this really petty, it’s not about individual people or groups it’s about Luke and corrine , I made this protest all legal , foned all the correct ppl and was told it’s perfectly legal to do so, I made a new tag as geo protest so no group alone was involved in setting it up, I done it all on my own
Corrine herself is over the moon I’ve done this and I really tried to keep it away from my group so as not to upset anyone, regardless of any of this we’ve loads of support and the legal council authorised protest will go ahead, a just hope in the time from now to then some people think long and hard that this is for Luke
George Fergie
‘JPJ mate she publicly told folk to leave our group and join official, Sandra left the group before she was blocked
George Fergie referred to Sandra Lean as ‘wonder women’ following the Glasgow protest
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Next you will be saying everyone respected the anniversary date and didn't post . Hmmm some of us didn't post. Others just could not help themselves
I did post on the 30th June. I wish I hadn't now but I did. I hold my hands up to that.
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I did post on the 30th June. I wish I hadn't now but I did. I hold my hands up to that.
And all respect to you, for saying so.
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And all respect to you, for saying so.
Agreed.
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I did post on the 30th June. I wish I hadn't now but I did. I hold my hands up to that.
Why did you? Was there really something that had to be said on that day?
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Why did you? Was there really something that had to be said on that day?
I don't know why. I didn't have anything especially important to say. As I've said, I wish I hadn't. Why did you post on the 30th June? Actually, forget that because it's none of my business.
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I don't know why. I didn't have anything especially important to say. As I've said, I wish I hadn't. Why did you post on the 30th June? Actually, forget that because it's none of my business.
No wonder you’re convinced of Luke’s guilt. Can’t you conduct even basic research? I did not post on the 30th and anyone who feels inclined can look at my posts to verify it.
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No wonder you’re convinced of Luke’s guilt. Can’t you conduct even basic research? I did not post on the 30th and anyone who feels inclined can look at my posts to verify it.
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They are Nirvana’s words not those of the Jones family. Further there are many reasons for remaining silent, family pressure, not wishing to upset other family members, valuing privacy etc, etc.
Unless you are willing to reveal on whose ‘very good authority’ you learned this direction by the judge I think the members are quite at liberty to treat your claim as yet another piece of the misinformation you are now famous for spreading. I post that the jury could have been split 7/8 and you suddenly have a source, that you’ve never mentioned before, who says otherwise.
I think it’s time to put up….well you know the rest.
You made this post on the 30th or is one saying the date is wrong?
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Pipped at the post there Rules!
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Pipped at the post there Rules!
Depending on who pips my post, I don't mind.
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Yep, you’ve got me..,an hour into the 30th of June.
Almost to the minute Judith Jones found out that Jodi had not been seen for over 5 and a half hours you posted this :
“ SF is a mug.”
Can you see the difference?
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Yep, you’ve got me..,an hour into the 30th of June.
Almost to the minute Judith Jones found out that Jodi had not been seen for over 5 and a half hours you posted this :
“ SF is a mug.”
Can you see the difference?
Of course I see the difference, faithlilly. I didn't lie about it. I did it and I shouldn't have but what I'm not going to do after that is lie ,treat everyone like a fool and try to start an argument with someone else. I did it a d so did you.
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I didnt say it, i read it on here. Maybe some in the readiness to spread the word about SL dont actually read the posts or what day / time there were posted
Are you saying that no one posted on that day? even late into the evening &^^&*
I never said that. You have your wires crossed
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Of course I see the difference, faithlilly. I didn't lie about it. I did it and I shouldn't have but what I'm not going to do after that is lie ,treat everyone like a fool and try to start an argument with someone else. I did it a d so did you.
Why would I lie when it would be simple to check, as you did? Now that really would have been a schoolboy error. I should have checked that I hadn’t posted at any time on the 30th..I didn’t and was mistaken.
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Why would I lie when it would be simple to check, as you did? Now that really would have been a schoolboy error. I should have checked that I hadn’t posted at any time on the 30th..I didn’t and was mistaken.
If it was your error then where's your apology?
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If it was your error then where's your apology?
Ok. You were mistaken for not checking.and I apologise to Jodi's family for posting on June 30th. All good?
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If it was your error then where's your apology?
Apologise to who ?
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Might be best if people stop trying to score points off each other from the anniversary of the tragic murder of a young girl at the hands of a psychotic sadistic maniac.
When was the last time anyone posted about the actual case?
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Might be best if people stop trying to score points off each other from the anniversary of the tragic murder of a young girl at the hands of a psychotic sadistic maniac.
When was the last time anyone posted about the actual case?
Agreed and I apologise.
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Might be best if people stop trying to score points off each other from the anniversary of the tragic murder of a young girl at the hands of a psychotic sadistic maniac.
When was the last time anyone posted about the actual case?
I’m afraid if you want to discuss the case you’d be better looking elsewhere. Dr Lean and her supporters seem to to be the only thing being discussed in these here parts.
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Might be best if people stop trying to score points off each other from the anniversary of the tragic murder of a young girl at the hands of a psychotic sadistic maniac.
When was the last time anyone posted about the actual case?
I agree. Most of the discussion on these threads seems to be about Sandra Lean and/or the campaign team, rather than about the actual case!
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Agreed and I apologise.
You don't have to apologise or explain.
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I agree. Most of the discussion on these threads seems to be about Sandra Lean and/or the campaign team, rather than about the actual case!
If you agree with my post, why was my account suspended a few minutes after I posted?
Fair question, I think, given that you've said you agree with the post.
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If you agree with my post, why was my account suspended a few minutes after I posted?
Fair question, I think, given that you've said you agree with the post.
I did not suspend your account. What is more, I can't see any evidence of your having been moderated by anyone today.
You are posting, so why do you think your account has been suspended?
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It's not the first time I haven't been allowed to post.
I said suspended, not banned, which may be why I'm able to post again.
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It's not the first time I haven't been allowed to post.
I said suspended, not banned, which may be why I'm able to post again.
Not my doing----I suggest you contact Admin !
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Anyone know why the group has gone quiet for so long, is it because Sandra has stepped back?
Also what happened to all the info being released to the public right away, was that not meant to happen after the paperwork was handed over on 30th. Take it thing’s are a little more complicated than first thought!
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According to Liana Mackie “ Kate Glass we aren’t collapsing, never will. Just waiting to hear back from Luke, and go forward accordingly. I’ve been on this for 18 years, the world will collapse before I will x”
This was posted in the Official group a week ago.
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According to Liana Mackie “ Kate Glass we aren’t collapsing, never will. Just waiting to hear back from Luke, and go forward accordingly. I’ve been on this for 18 years, the world will collapse before I will x”
This was posted in the Official group a week ago.
And by you twice.
What’s the point you wish to convey because unfortunately it’s not ver clear?
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It's an update on the group.
Your post isn't clear either.
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It's an update on the group.
Your post isn't clear either.
Then let me make it clearer.
You posted the update on two different threads and I was simply wondering why?
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Because there are 2 different threads about the official group 🤷♀️
Is it against the rules or something?
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I’ve never used Twitter, so I’d be interested to know too 😂
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I’ve never used Twitter, so I’d be interested to know too 😂
I don't have Twitter therefore I'm clueless but you seem to know?
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Stephanie Nicol
DM pardoned would mean that he was Guilty of the crime he committed but they see it as justifiable or excusable and therefore relieve him of the legal consequences.
There’s nothing justifiable or excusable about any of this, especially not the death of a 14 year old girl.
Luke needs an independent enquiry into the entire case which would hopefully for him mean that he would be exonerated and the actual culprit/s detained.
Will people like Stephanie Nicol eventually realise they have been and are being duped by an extremely dangerous and sadistic killer ?
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Stephanie Nicol
DM pardoned would mean that he was Guilty of the crime he committed but they see it as justifiable or excusable and therefore relieve him of the legal consequences.
There’s nothing justifiable or excusable about any of this, especially not the death of a 14 year old girl.
Luke needs an independent enquiry into the entire case which would hopefully for him mean that he would be exonerated and the actual culprit/s detained.
Will people like Stephanie Nicol eventually realise they have been and are being duped by an extremely dangerous and sadistic killer ?
No, I don't think so, Nicholas. I believe that some people are willing to say they were wrong but have since changed their minds but they're in the minority. The stick they get for the prerogative of changing their minds from some, has to be enough to put many off I would think. Maybe some who previously believed LM to be innocent but now believe him guilty, find it easier to just carry on? Many of the pro Mitchell clan are absolutely ruthless.
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According to Liana Mackie “ Kate Glass we aren’t collapsing, never will. Just waiting to hear back from Luke, and go forward accordingly. I’ve been on this for 18 years, the world will collapse before I will x”
This was posted in the Official group a week ago.
New vid from Sunshine
https://youtu.be/jzkwss0_53M
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New vid from Sunshine
https://youtu.be/jzkwss0_53M
The video was as expected.
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Will there be a comment from Stephanie Nicol on this?
11th June 2021 ⬇️
Stephanie Nicol
‘My street was looking a bit plain so I decorated it with a call for Justice...
#justiceforjodijones
Sandra Lean
‘Fantastic, Stephanie!!!! Such a lovely picture of Jodi.
Seems like nothing has been learned from sticker gate
Cheryl Ashley
Hey everyone, how are we all? Been slacking on the group posts lately. Summer holidays, being a single parent and carer my time is very limited. But, no matter where I go Luke comes too 😊💜. Some of my stickers in Inverness Lossiemouth and Elgin. #justiceforlukemitchell
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New vid from Sunshine
https://youtu.be/jzkwss0_53M
Nope! Nothing learned at all.
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Jodi Jones🌻 has been ghosted ⬇️ *&^^&
Cheryl Ashley - Admin - 25th August
6 day time until the Scottish Parliament resumes!! One important way we can all help Luke is by being loud in the ears (and email boxes) of our MSPs. These elected, by us officials make laws and change laws. And, when it comes to the legal system reserved powers isnae an excuse. They all should be aware of the full facts of this case. If they are not, we must make them. If they are, we must hound them with our distain for their silence and unwillingness to help.
There are files on the group with every single MSPs email address and template letters you can use or please write one of your own. It doesn't have to be long or wordy just your thought on Luke's continued injustice. Even if it's just justice Luke Mitchell, Luke is innocent, look into this case. Bombard their emails untill they take notice 💜
Luke may be the catalyst that brought us all here, but this is about more than just him. This is about making our justice system fairer and far more accountable.
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Jodi Jones🌻 has been ghosted ⬇️ *&^^&
Cheryl Ashley - Admin - 25th August
6 day time until the Scottish Parliament resumes!! One important way we can all help Luke is by being loud in the ears (and email boxes) of our MSPs. These elected, by us officials make laws and change laws. And, when it comes to the legal system reserved powers isnae an excuse. They all should be aware of the full facts of this case. If they are not, we must make them. If they are, we must hound them with our distain for their silence and unwillingness to help.
There are files on the group with every single MSPs email address and template letters you can use or please write one of your own. It doesn't have to be long or wordy just your thought on Luke's continued injustice. Even if it's just justice Luke Mitchell, Luke is innocent, look into this case. Bombard their emails untill they take notice 💜
Luke may be the catalyst that brought us all here, but this is about more than just him. This is about making our justice system fairer and far more accountable.
Sandra Lean
Just a suggestion, but I wouldn't put Luke's name in the subject line, because it gives them the opportunity to delete without even reading!!!
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New vid from Sunshine
https://youtu.be/jzkwss0_53M
Sharon Indy Sunshine uses pages copied from newspapers in her videos but has she bothered to figure out yet the actual source(s) for much of this publicity ?
“Furthermore, it ought to be recognised that a substantial part of the publicity which the case had attracted was based upon statements made by or on behalf of the appellant. The fact that some of the publicity had been generated in that way was relevant to the present issue. If some disadvantage was self-inflicted, the appellant could hardly complain of it.” [54]
https://www.scotcourts.gov.uk/search-judgments/judgment?id=e2988aa6-8980-69d2-b500-ff0000d74aa7
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Seems they are meant to be planning a protest at the jail? The group said it’s fake news - https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scottish-news/supports-killer-luke-mitchell-hatch-25023206
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Seems they are meant to be planning a protest at the jail? The group said it’s fake news - https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scottish-news/supports-killer-luke-mitchell-hatch-25023206
Good old Jane, she knows how to trigger them @)(++(*
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Will there be a comment from Stephanie Nicol on this?
11th June 2021 ⬇️
Stephanie Nicol
‘My street was looking a bit plain so I decorated it with a call for Justice...
#justiceforjodijones
Sandra Lean
‘Fantastic, Stephanie!!!! Such a lovely picture of Jodi.
Wonder when the penny will finally drop and Stephanie Nicol realises she has been (and is being) groomed, conned and exploited by Sandra Lean
Part 72 ~ Killer Luke Mitchell: ‘Admin’ Stephanie Nicol On What She Thinks She Knows About The Trial & Evidence That Convicted A Dangerous Teenage Psychopath
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http://theerrorsthatplaguethemiscarriageofjusticemovement.home.blog/2022/10/20/killer-luke-mitchell-admin-stephanie-nicol-on-what-she-thinks-she-knows-about-the-trial-evidence-that-convicted-a-dangerous-teenage-psychopath-part-72/
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On 30th April 2021 Lisa C Reynolds Peden posted the following
’So in the book it states that Ju J, Ja J and AW confirmed categorically that there was no grounding in place on the night of June 30th. Ja J remembered the specific start date of the four week punishment as beginning on May 14th, because she had an exam that day and, arriving home early, discovered the Jodi had skipped school. Ju J told police that because Jodi had been going to woodburn in recent weeks, she needed the "extra time" (i.e. ten o'clock curfew) for the additional traveling. The friend Jodi met with in woodburn was on holiday the week of the murder, therefore, the grounding had to have been lifted before then - according to Ja J recollection, it was finished by 12th June. AW said simply that the punishment had petered out until things returned to normal "a few weeks ago".
Although Jodi was at Luke's house on the 28th of June and they had got carried away and lost track of time. So a taxi was called to make sure Jodi got home in time. Luke gave Jodi the fair for this.
Luke still believed Jodi to be grounded, although she was allowed to his house on the Saturday! So sometimes Jodi's grounding would have random days break mixed in?!
So if her grounding stopped on the 12th on June and not the 30th, who was Jodi hanging around with? Who was she meeting up with after school? And what were they doing? Why didn't she tell Luke about the grounding being lifted until these texts that supposedly Jodi sent to Luke from her mum's phone? It's been referred to time and time again that Jodi was the 'other' woman as Luke was having an 'affair' but what if in real fact Luke was the 'other' guy and it was really Jodi who was having an 'affair'! 🤷🏻♀️🤔🧐
Does the above ⬆️ stem from Luke or Corinne Mitchell or both?
According to another Facebook post by Lisa C Reynolds Peden she speaks to Corinne Mitchell every day and Luke Mitchell every two days
Was/Is killer Luke Mitchell accusing [Name removed] of cheating on him?
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Sharon Indy Sunshine uses pages copied from newspapers in her videos but has she bothered to figure out yet the actual source(s) for much of this publicity ?
The cult is crumbling. There’s a power grab between them all. Admin fighting for the right to be the boss because they have known Luke the longest, others want to be famous YouTube stars ⭐️. Sandra can’t control her desciples anymore lol
Could this mean the end for the campaign?
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The cult is crumbling. There’s a power grab between them all. Admin fighting for the right to be the boss because they have known Luke the longest, others want to be famous YouTube stars ⭐️. Sandra can’t control her desciples anymore lol
Could this mean the end for the campaign?
Sounds all so familiar doesn't it. Could it be a rerun of the Wrongly Accused Person saga all over again. @)(++(*
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On 30th April 2021 Lisa C Reynolds Peden posted the following
’So in the book it states that Ju J, Ja J and AW confirmed categorically that there was no grounding in place on the night of June 30th. Ja J remembered the specific start date of the four week punishment as beginning on May 14th, because she had an exam that day and, arriving home early, discovered the Jodi had skipped school. Ju J told police that because Jodi had been going to woodburn in recent weeks, she needed the "extra time" (i.e. ten o'clock curfew) for the additional traveling. The friend Jodi met with in woodburn was on holiday the week of the murder, therefore, the grounding had to have been lifted before then - according to Ja J recollection, it was finished by 12th June. AW said simply that the punishment had petered out until things returned to normal "a few weeks ago".
Although Jodi was at Luke's house on the 28th of June and they had got carried away and lost track of time. So a taxi was called to make sure Jodi got home in time. Luke gave Jodi the fair for this.
Luke still believed Jodi to be grounded, although she was allowed to his house on the Saturday! So sometimes Jodi's grounding would have random days break mixed in?!
So if her grounding stopped on the 12th on June and not the 30th, who was Jodi hanging around with? Who was she meeting up with after school? And what were they doing? Why didn't she tell Luke about the grounding being lifted until these texts that supposedly Jodi sent to Luke from her mum's phone? It's been referred to time and time again that Jodi was the 'other' woman as Luke was having an 'affair' but what if in real fact Luke was the 'other' guy and it was really Jodi who was having an 'affair'! 🤷🏻♀️🤔🧐
Does the above ⬆️ stem from Luke or Corinne Mitchell or both?
According to another Facebook post by Lisa C Reynolds Peden she speaks to Corinne Mitchell every day and Luke Mitchell every two days
Was/Is killer Luke Mitchell accusing [Name removed] of cheating on him?
Still no one has answered this
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The cult is crumbling. There’s a power grab between them all. Admin fighting for the right to be the boss because they have known Luke the longest, others want to be famous YouTube stars ⭐️. Sandra can’t control her desciples anymore lol
Could this mean the end for the campaign?
Do you mean because admin/Sandra Lean has finally confirmed fraudster Scott Forbes isn’t a solicitor/lawyer ?
Are they not getting along behind the scenes?
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The cult is crumbling. There’s a power grab between them all.
Sandra Lean
From memory, Luke texted Jodi at 4.34 to ask if she was coming out that evening, she responded that she was, where would she meet him, Luke responded saying she could come down to Newbattle after tea, she responded that she'd be down "later."
https://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,551.msg386775.html#msg386775
Ron/Ronnie Mothersole
Maybe I am getting it wrong
Or being misinformed
There is no evidence that Jodi
Sent a text to Luke that afternoon
Maybe someone can clarify this ✌️
Yvonne Barker
Who! Time? She apparently wasNt at school that day
Ana Azaria
Glenda Cathersides Luke saw Jodi at lunch time and he had seen her at school -
Sandra Lean
Yvonne Barker According to the school registers, she was definitely in school that day. We have witnesses to her being in the China Gardens at lunchtime - admittedly, not school, but with others from school during the school day. If you have evidence that Jodi wasn't in school that day, please PM me - it would mean the school lied about her attendance, right in the middle of the investigation into her murder.
If Jodi wasn't in school, but the school said she was, it would mean they massively obstructed a police investigation
I have heard claims that Jodi wasn't in school, or she wasn't in school all day, but nothing to solidly back them up, unfortunately. Any solid, reliable evidence to this effect would be a critical and significant piece of evidence.
Ana Azaria
Glenda Cathersides Luke saw Jodi at lunch time and he had seen her at school
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Ronnie Mothersole
Sandra Lean it looks like all they children or bus driver could verify this one way or another
Let's not forget it was the school That said Luke had a parka
That in itself caused major problems for Luke
Ana Azaria
Glenda Cathersides Luke saw Jodi at lunch time and he had seen her at school
Sandra Lean
Ronnie Mothersole Not quite, Ronnie. The parka story began with Fleming and Walsh (one of them said it "might have been" a parka jacket - just like it "might have been" Luke, when we know it could have been MK), then grew arms and legs through the rumour mill in the local area and, in the end, only one teacher was brought forward to say he "remembered" Luke in a Parka jacket. They said that teacher was "reliable" because he left the school at the end of the term, so his memory "must have been" before Jodi was murdered. What they didn't consider was that he was local and would almost certainly have seen the media coverage of Luke in the parka jacket.
We have evidence of a girl on the public service bus (not the school bus) saying she "might have" seen a girl who "could have been Jodi" on the bus - and that's it. Once again, it seems there was absolutely no effort to find the people who could have said for sure, one way or the other
In reality - Fraudster Sandra Lean wrote two books (No Smoke & IB) which weren’t based on ALL the 42 days worth of evidence heard during killer Luke Mitchell’s trial
And because grifter Sandra Lean did not attend the 42 day trial she has no idea of all the evidence heard around Jodi Jones movements that day
The fact killer Luke Mitchell’s evidence was that he also saw [Name removed] in school that day should be ringing alarm bells for all those people who have been, and are being, duped by Sandra Lean’s innocence fraud
Ana Azaria
Glenda Cathersides Luke saw Jodi at lunch time and he had seen her at school -
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The cult is crumbling. There’s a power grab between them all. Admin fighting for the right to be the boss because they have known Luke the longest, others want to be famous YouTube stars ⭐️. Sandra can’t control her desciples anymore lol
Could this mean the end for the campaign?
Were you referring to this - from Sandra Lean’s Facebook on 23rd January 2023
Sandra Lean
Good morning, everyone. It's been brought to my attention that a new "Luke Mitchell Support Group" has sprung up, pretty much overnight. The group claims to have 11k "supporters," but was actually some sort of sales group that's just had a name change.
The existing groups have all built their support base through education, discussion of the case and factual information. They've protected any future proceedings by being mindful of sensitive information and how discussions progress. The first screenshot I was sent of the new group included a full list of names of those being discussed elsewhere using only initials - the justification being "everyone knows who they are, so why not just name them."
The other groups are private groups - people have to become members to participate - so the discussions are not open to the wider public and, if they were to become so, full names would not be plastered all over the internet. The new group has now allowed 11k random members of the public access to names that have been, until now, protected.
Perhaps most importantly of all, justice supporters are not interested in "numbers - no matter what" The huge memberships of the existing groups (or followers of the massive 8k member tiktoc group run by Louise and Kristina), have been built by hard work, attention to detail, respect for posters and, most importantly of all, mindfulness of the case and potential future proceedings. Their aim is to educate those who still believe Luke is guilty as charged and the system works as it should, and to expose the massive failings throughout the case, which robbed both Luke and Jodi of justice.
For those reasons, I will not be endorsing this new group and would respectfully warn others to be wary of involvement. Thanks to everyone who is participating in, and supporting, the existing groups
Louise Reid
Sandra do you know the name of the group? If you know who they are. We can report them and get the page removed.
Sandra Lean
Louise Reid From last night's screenshots, it's "Luke Mitchell, Set-up of Jodi, No half truths here" - I believe some people have already reported it?
Louise Reid
Sandra Lean I'll have a look now. The more people report it. The more of a chance FB will remove it.
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Louise Reid
Sandra do you know the name of the group? If you know who they are. We can report them and get the page removed.
Sandra Lean
Louise Reid From last night's screenshots, it's "Luke Mitchell, Set-up of Jodi, No half truths here" - I believe some people have already reported it?
Louise Reid
Sandra Lean I'll have a look now. The more people report it. The more of a chance FB will remove it.
Louise Reid you are being groomed, conned and exploited
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A Grand Day Out... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sApLJuKcvTs (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sApLJuKcvTs)
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A Grand Day Out... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sApLJuKcvTs (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sApLJuKcvTs)
The video owner claims there were around 500 people there but no sign of supporters David Wilson, James English, Mr Hawaii 5-0, J Scott QC or the invisible S Forbes. Looked more like a Harry Potter convention.
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The video owner claims there were around 500 people there but no sign of supporters David Wilson, James English, Mr Hawaii 5-0, J Scott QC or the invisible S Forbes. Looked more like a Harry Potter convention.
Not sure the point you’re trying to make. All the people posted above have gone on the record to say that they believe Luke may have been a victim of a miscarriage of justice. What more do you want?
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It's called having an opinion - you don't need to cross-examine everything. There weren't even 100 people there and the above named couldn't care less about LM, just trying to raise their profile.
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It's called having an opinion - you don't need to cross-examine everything. There weren't even 100 people there and the above named couldn't care less about LM, just trying to raise their profile.
If most right minded people think Luke is guilty why would anyone use Luke’s case to raise their profile? In fact surely it could actually negatively impact on these people’s reputations supporting a convicted killer? Could it simply be that they actually believe what they say?
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Was anyone on the Hearts FC forum when SL spammed it under 2 false names then joined it under her own name to agree with the 2 false name posts?
Posted under her fake names AllanM & ConsiderThis.
"I repeat, I have no affiliation with the Mitchell family or the WAP forum, although I visit the forum out of interest, along with any other forum I might learn about the LM case" "I have a great amount of respect for Sandra Lean. She is polite, thoughtful, tactful and treats all posters with respect, whatever their views are"
What kind of desperado posts this to justify her opinions and today is denying she knew CM before the murder. Lies, lies and more lies...
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Was anyone on the Hearts FC forum when SL spammed it under 2 false names then joined it under her own name to agree with the 2 false name posts?
Posted under her fake names AllanM & ConsiderThis.
"I repeat, I have no affiliation with the Mitchell family or the WAP forum, although I visit the forum out of interest, along with any other forum I might learn about the LM case" "I have a great amount of respect for Sandra Lean. She is polite, thoughtful, tactful and treats all posters with respect, whatever their views are"
What kind of desperado posts this to justify her opinions and today is denying she knew CM before the murder. Lies, lies and more lies...
My, my times really are desperate.
I’ve been told at least half a dozen times on this very forum that I’m either Dr Lean herself or one of her family. Absolutely bizarre behaviour.
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The vitriol being directed at Dr Lean at the moment is nothing new for those seeking justice for the wrongly convicted. This is Chris Mullin whose work on the Birmingham Six case was instrumental in seeing their convictions quashed. From 6.50.
https://youtu.be/GSJWEZA16Hk
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The vitriol being directed at Dr Lean at the moment is nothing new for those seeking justice for the wrongly convicted. This is Chris Mullin whose work on the Birmingham Six case was instrumental in seeing their convictions quashed. From 6.50.
https://youtu.be/GSJWEZA16Hk
None of the 6 convicted terrorists have yet to clear their names or prove their innocence
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LM superfan Stuart H has been banned from wearing a Justice for Luke T-shirt in his local pub/Spoons (Falkirk area). Another drinker complained it was offensive to have a murderer's face displayed in a family pub.
Well done to whoever it was. Freedom of speech my arse and lucky he wasn't knocked out (not that I'm condoning that).
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LM superfan Stuart H has been banned from wearing a Justice for Luke T-shirt in his local pub/Spoons (Falkirk area). Another drinker complained it was offensive to have a murderer's face displayed in a family pub.
Well done to whoever it was. Freedom of speech my arse and lucky he wasn't knocked out (not that I'm condoning that).
Would Stuart Henderson also wear a t-shirt with the face of 14 year old rapist and killer Philip Chism on it
https://allthatsinteresting.com/philip-chism#:~:text=Philip%20Chism%20was%20just%2014,his%20math%20teacher%20Colleen%20Ritzer.
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Would Stuart Henderson also wear a t-shirt with the face of 14 year old rapist and killer Philip Chism on it
Considering Stuart thinks Forbes is the voice of reason, I wouldn't be surprised if he thought Jimmy Savile was just a bit flirty. He seems completely brainwashed by the rednecks/village idiots.
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Some of Luke's Army/Cult have suggested the next protest be in Dalkeith "even though there might be some arrests". Someone even suggested protesting outside Jodi's house. What kind of logic is applied to protest for someone they don't know, and have never met, outside the victim's house?
When will they leave this family alone? Jodi would be 34 now if she hadn't met LM.
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Lean scraping the bottom of the barrel after being kicked off BuyMeACoffee with a new line in Murder Merch.
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/murdered-schoolgirls-family-sickened-shirts-30590111#comments-wrapper (https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/murdered-schoolgirls-family-sickened-shirts-30590111#comments-wrapper)
Poor lad.
Plans for “community access visits” were withdrawn after Mitchell failed two random drug tests. A prison source told the Record: “Mitchell came to Greenock in 2021 but has since been in bother where he’s failed drug tests. He has also complained over decisions made about his requests to be allowed to visit his mum in Midlothian. “He claims he’s only been taking drugs due to the treatment he’s receiving inside. It’s been explained to him that his community access was withdrawn due to his own actions but he’s refusing to engage with that.”
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Lean scraping the bottom of the barrel after being kicked off BuyMeACoffee with a new line in Murder Merch.
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/murdered-schoolgirls-family-sickened-shirts-30590111#comments-wrapper (https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/murdered-schoolgirls-family-sickened-shirts-30590111#comments-wrapper)
Poor lad.
Plans for “community access visits” were withdrawn after Mitchell failed two random drug tests. A prison source told the Record: “Mitchell came to Greenock in 2021 but has since been in bother where he’s failed drug tests. He has also complained over decisions made about his requests to be allowed to visit his mum in Midlothian. “He claims he’s only been taking drugs due to the treatment he’s receiving inside. It’s been explained to him that his community access was withdrawn due to his own actions but he’s refusing to engage with that.”
For a family who it’s claimed have kept a dignified silence they’re pretty vocal. Further what the money raised from the sale of the t-shirts is for is none of their business.
And a son desperate to visit his poor, incapacitated mum….what a b**tard!
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For a family who it’s claimed have kept a dignified silence they’re pretty vocal. Further what the money raised from the sale of the t-shirts is for is none of their business.
And a son desperate to visit his poor, incapacitated mum….what a b**tard!
If he was that desperate to see her he’d keep himself clean, the poor little druggie.
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No response from Old Rolling Eyes? Not like her to have nothing to say? 8()-000(
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FV5efbD5Ahk (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FV5efbD5Ahk)
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There is a good deal of wasted time in the linked video, inasmuch as the speaker is repetitive. It is also misleading with respect to the bits of testimony that have been quoted in the threads.
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There is a good deal of wasted time in the linked video, inasmuch as the speaker is repetitive. It is also misleading with respect to the bits of testimony that have been quoted in the threads.
He’s preaching to the converted. Accuracy isn’t necessary.
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There is a good deal of wasted time in the linked video, inasmuch as the speaker is repetitive. It is also misleading with respect to the bits of testimony that have been quoted in the threads.
I agree and not very fluent... also why does any Youtuber hoping to be taken seriously pepper their videos with irritating, distracting background musak and irrelevant graphics?
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Doesn't make sense.
Heather Brunt
6 November
Just a thought Instead of buying and sending Christmas cards this year anyone else interested in donating what they'd spend to help fundraise. I'm happy to start it off. xx
Stuart Henderson
27 November
It's getting near December folks and if anyone would like to send Luke a Xmas card then please send one to-
89543 Luke Mitchell.
HMP Shotts.
Canthill Road.
Shotts
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This just pisses off other prisoners. Staff have limited time to go through mail. If inundated with mail from his cult it delays mail prisoners genuine family and friends! He's already unpopular in hmp shotts, delay of mail will add to it.Mail from friends and family is very important!
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This just pisses off other prisoners. Staff have limited time to go through mail. If inundated with mail from his cult it delays mail prisoners genuine family and friends! He's already unpopular in hmp shotts, delay of mail will add to it.Mail from friends and family is very important!
Lean's 60th party/fundraiser cancelled again claiming people who are going have been threatened. Sounds like a cop out to me considering the ex-cons involved with LM's protests.
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Lean's 60th party/fundraiser cancelled again claiming people who are going have been threatened. Sounds like a cop out to me considering the ex-cons involved with LM's protests.
More distractions and deflections 🙄
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Last post here...
There is way to much peripheral material, which can perhaps be discarded and enable a focus on the critical evidence.
It's not really suitable for in-depth analysis on a generic site, albeit a highly commendable one.
Let's see what might be accomplished.
As things stand, I see no motive, despite the, obviously unhelpful, Satanic element and a number of other, troubling, evidential aspects, which I am sure can be further quantified and summarised.
Certainly do not recall ever implying otherwise.
https://www.facebook.com/groups/594743596079701/?ref=share_group_link
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I see no motive
Because your knowledge on killers like psychopath Luke Mitchell is lacking
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There is way to much peripheral material, which can perhaps be discarded and enable a focus on the critical evidence.
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What have you been focusing on up until now ?
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It's not really suitable for in-depth analysis on a generic site, albeit a highly commendable one.
Let's see what might be accomplished.
https://www.facebook.com/groups/594743596079701/?ref=share_group_link
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Are you another one of these people with control issues James Easton?
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I see no motive
Because your knowledge on killers like psychopath Luke Mitchell is lacking
Are you a misogynist James Easton?