Who would trust Bojo or Trump

[Jean-Pierre]

More "exciting"...

The problem I find is that being elected to the position of a first-world power is not a TV show in which someone can simply turn up and announce "your fired", nor hit on a button to eliminate a candidate in a musical entertainment contest.

He appears to have garnered support on the successful businessman versus politician ticket, yet he refuses to release his tax returns...

I think he has a real problem there.  Since 1976 its been a tradition that nominees release their tax returns so he is out of step. 

He is trying to wriggle by saying he will release them but Clinton must release the private server Emails first - that may work with his fans  but any undecided voters will see that as v v negative.

And his comment during the debate - when Clinton pointed out that the only tax returns he has made public (for a casino licence) showed that no tax had been paid in two years - his comment "that makes me smart" - is an absolute killer for US citizens who have to make a detailed and v expensive IRS return each year.

Current score - 15 love to Clinton.   

[Carana]

I think he has a real problem there.  Since 1976 its been a tradition that nominees release their tax returns so he is out of step. 

He is trying to wriggle by saying he will release them but Clinton must release the private server Emails first - that may work with his fans  but any undecided voters will see that as v v negative.

And his comment during the debate - when Clinton pointed out that the only tax returns he has made public (for a casino licence) showed that no tax had been paid in two years - his comment "that makes me smart" - is an absolute killer for US citizens who have to make a detailed and v expensive IRS return each year.

Current score - 15 love to Clinton.

Hillary isn't above reproach.

And what she actually said about his tax affairs may be a bit misleading, according to http://www.politifact.com/

On the other hand, it's not clear why he has refused to make them public.

More importantly, I find him to have the maturity of a 5-year-old. A bit worrying...

[Jean-Pierre]

Hillary isn't above reproach.

And what she actually said about his tax affairs may be a bit misleading, according to http://www.politifact.com/

On the other hand, it's not clear why he has refused to make them public.

More importantly, I find him to have the maturity of a 5-year-old. A bit worrying...

Thanks for that Carana - interesting.  Playing devils advocate - that was 1981.  A while ago! 

There are a number of possible reasons.  If it was a rational individual it would be because it has stuff in it that would be damaging.  But with Trump?  It could just be that he likes playing games and winding up his opponents.  His approach to argument reminds me of my grandson, who is now 6.  (Although most of his arguments are less "I want to be leader of the free world" and more "I want more chocolate" based)   

[Carana]

Thanks for that Carana - interesting.  Playing devils advocate - that was 1981.  A while ago! 

There are a number of possible reasons.  If it was a rational individual it would be because it has stuff in it that would be damaging.  But with Trump?  It could just be that he likes playing games and winding up his opponents.  His approach to argument reminds me of my grandson, who is now 6.  (Although most of his arguments are less "I want to be leader of the free world" and more "I want more chocolate" based)   

I'm not convinced that Team Trump would be adverse to more chocolate...

[Carana]

Anyone can change their minds over time. I have no problem with that. But he has a tendency to flatly deny things he's said in the past as if they never happened.

I don't feel comfortable with someone who does that as I find it hard to distinguish when to believe someone as being essentially genuine or not.

[stephen25000]

Anyone can change their minds over time. I have no problem with that. But he has a tendency to flatly deny things he's said in the past as if they never happened.

I don't feel comfortable with someone who does that as I find it hard to distinguish when to believe someone as being essentially genuine or not.

He behaves like a petulant child, who regardless of the fact that he comes out with blatant lies, refuses to admit them, let  alone apologize.

[Jean-Pierre]

He behaves like a petulant child, who regardless of the fact that he comes out with blatant lies, refuses to admit them, let  alone apologize.

And its very hard to have a rational argument  with someone like that.  If they tell a blatant lie and you challenge them, you end up in a "prove it!" style argument.   and then no proof will ever be acceptable.  It gets nowhere fast. 

An oblique example is Trump being challenged to produce his tax returns (as is the custom) - response - "Ill produce them after Clinton publishes all of the private emails". 

Which is impossible for all sorts of reasons.  And if she did, then there would be a lot of reasons why the tax returns would not be produced, of course. 

The USA needs to think very carefully about their voting in November. 

(Maybe we should rescind the "independence" thing, and bring them back to being a colony)

[Angelo222]

There isn't that much between Clinton and Trump when it comes down to it.  Both have been ruthless in their respective careers in their drive to be top dog.  Both have stood on and put down the little guy so in my view they are both just wrong to be the next President of the USA.

[Carana]

He behaves like a petulant child, who regardless of the fact that he comes out with blatant lies, refuses to admit them, let  alone apologize.

That's my impression as well. Except, for his recent admission that he accepted that Obama was indeed born in the US.

How many years has he been disputing that? And why admit that now? Nothing to do with attempting to win over minority votes, by any chance?

[stephen25000]

That's my impression as well. Except, for his recent admission that he accepted that Obama was indeed born in the US.

How many years has he been disputing that? And why admit that now? Nothing to do with attempting to win over minority votes, by any chance?

It  is out of character for him to admit he made a mistake.

Perhaaps a sign of desperation, or is he just trying to con the American public ?

[Carana]

There isn't that much between Clinton and Trump when it comes down to it.  Both have been ruthless in their respective careers in their drive to be top dog.  Both have stood on and put down the little guy so in my view they are both just wrong to be the next President of the USA.

At the end of the day, though, with whom would you feel less uncomfortable having a finger anywhere near a red button?

[Carana]

It  is out of character for him to admit he made a mistake.

Perhaaps a sign of desperation, or is he just trying to con the American public ?

I expect his never-ending stream of advisers simply told him to just grow up, admit it, and move on.

The only problem... is that he still comes across as a petulant 70-year-old little boy.

[stephen25000]

thheh

I expect his never-ending stream of advisers simply t &%&£(+old him to just grow up, admit it, and move on.

The only problem... is that he still comes across as a petulant 70-year-old little boy.

I completely agree Carana.

It's a pity he wasn't up against another main candidate, they would wipe the floor with him.

[Carana]

I completely agree Carana.

It's a pity he wasn't up against another main candidate, they would wipe the floor with him.

Graun: The nation that brought you Batman v Superman and Captain America v Iron Man held its breath for Mrs Know It All v Mr Know Nothing.

[stephen25000]

Don't forget Ronald Reagan and Bonzo the Chimp.