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Offline Eleanor

Re: Why was Gonçalo Amaral taken off the Madeleine McCann case?
« Reply #105 on: February 17, 2016, 01:07:18 PM »
Amaral seems to have been Encarnação's protégé. It's not clear how much information on the details of the case was being passed up.

If Encarnação had assured his own superiors that Amaral was doing an excellent job, there was probably not much that could be done.

Sidestepping the head of Faro may not have been an option for a variety of reasons.

Wasn't Encarnacao not frightfully well?  Although they might not have known that.

Offline Eleanor

Re: Why was Gonçalo Amaral taken off the Madeleine McCann case?
« Reply #106 on: February 17, 2016, 01:11:53 PM »
The revelation that a dream had caused the whole direction of the case to be changed - must have raised a few eyebrows amongst the PJ hierarchy.

Who knows?  Was that passed up?  And there was so much rubbish in The Press that no one knew what was true and what wasn't in the end.  Or even who was doing the leaking.

Rebelo more or less put a stop to that, although Amaral should have done that.  Another big fail.

Offline sadie

Re: Why was Gonçalo Amaral taken off the Madeleine McCann case?
« Reply #107 on: February 17, 2016, 09:47:32 PM »
We have been told this is off topic, although it has been suggested that Amaral was removed because he was preparing to investigate the Smith sighting further in light of Mr Smith's declaration that the man he saw was Gerry McCann. Coincidentally he was removed at that moment, although it can't be shown that the two things are connected.

I haven't seen any statement by Mr Smith saying that Smithman was Gerry.

Is there such a statement or are you perpetrating a myth?

Offline G-Unit

Re: Why was Gonçalo Amaral taken off the Madeleine McCann case?
« Reply #108 on: February 17, 2016, 10:40:48 PM »
I haven't seen any statement by Mr Smith saying that Smithman was Gerry.

Is there such a statement or are you perpetrating a myth?

I don't deal in myths Sadie, I read the files. You said that Mr Smith later said it wasn't Gerry. Could I have your cite for that please?

I would be 60-80% sure that it was Gerard McCann that I met that night carrying a child. I am basing that on his mannerism in the way he carried the child off the plane.
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/MARTIN_SMITH.htm
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Offline sadie

Re: Why was Gonçalo Amaral taken off the Madeleine McCann case?
« Reply #109 on: February 17, 2016, 11:01:13 PM »
I asked first

Your cite first.  To remind you

"Mr Smiths declaration that the man he saw was Gerry McCann."  I asked for Mr Smiths statement saying this, please.

Offline G-Unit

Re: Why was Gonçalo Amaral taken off the Madeleine McCann case?
« Reply #110 on: February 17, 2016, 11:05:33 PM »
I asked first

Your cite first.  To remind you

"Mr Smiths declaration that the man he saw was Gerry McCann."  I asked for Mr Smiths statement saying this, please.

What is your objection to the quote I gave?
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Offline sadie

Re: Why was Gonçalo Amaral taken off the Madeleine McCann case?
« Reply #111 on: February 17, 2016, 11:15:57 PM »
What is your objection to the quote I gave?

I would like to see MR Smiths statement and not some third parties words.  Chinese whispers.

Offline slartibartfast

Re: Why was Gonçalo Amaral taken off the Madeleine McCann case?
« Reply #112 on: February 17, 2016, 11:34:46 PM »
I asked first

Your cite first.  To remind you

"Mr Smiths declaration that the man he saw was Gerry McCann."  I asked for Mr Smiths statement saying this, please.

See post 87.
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Why was Gonçalo Amaral taken off the Madeleine McCann case?
« Reply #113 on: February 17, 2016, 11:42:07 PM »
I would like to see MR Smiths statement and not some third parties words.  Chinese whispers.
The statement attributed to Mr Smith is not  a freely given statement. if you read it you can see he has been asked questions to which he has provided the answers,,,his answers have been written down in statement form

Offline G-Unit

Re: Why was Gonçalo Amaral taken off the Madeleine McCann case?
« Reply #114 on: February 18, 2016, 12:14:32 AM »
I would like to see MR Smiths statement and not some third parties words.  Chinese whispers.

If you wish to pick and chose what you believe fair enough. Nevertheless I gave my source, so please provide yours so I can evaluate the evidence upon which your post was based. Thank you.
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Re: Why was Gonçalo Amaral taken off the Madeleine McCann case?
« Reply #115 on: February 18, 2016, 12:42:54 AM »
The statement attributed to Mr Smith is not  a freely given statement. if you read it you can see he has been asked questions to which he has provided the answers,,,his answers have been written down in statement form

I feel quite sorry for those who support the McCanns sometimes. You have to cast doubt upon some witnesses, the Portuguese Police, the Irish police, the efficiency of cadaver dogs, the efficiency of cadaver dog handlers. the skills of English-Portuguese translators, the intelligence of those who don't agree with you......quite a list!
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Re: Why was Gonçalo Amaral taken off the Madeleine McCann case?
« Reply #116 on: February 18, 2016, 05:16:30 AM »
I feel quite sorry for those who support the McCanns sometimes. You have to cast doubt upon some witnesses, the Portuguese Police, the Irish police, the efficiency of cadaver dogs, the efficiency of cadaver dog handlers. the skills of English-Portuguese translators, the intelligence of those who don't agree with you......quite a list!
LOL, such  unself-conscious irony in this post that you seem to have missed, I almost feel quite sorry for you.
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Re: Why was Gonçalo Amaral taken off the Madeleine McCann case?
« Reply #117 on: February 18, 2016, 07:58:35 AM »
LOL, such  unself-conscious irony in this post that you seem to have missed, I almost feel quite sorry for you.
"Assume nothing, Believe no one, Check everything"  8((()*/

Yet you never doubt the mccanns and their claim of abduction. 8)-)))

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Re: Why was Gonçalo Amaral taken off the Madeleine McCann case?
« Reply #118 on: February 18, 2016, 08:11:59 AM »
Yet you never doubt the mccanns and their claim of abduction. 8)-)))

The claims, having been examined and cross-checked, are found verified ....

stephen25000

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Re: Why was Gonçalo Amaral taken off the Madeleine McCann case?
« Reply #119 on: February 18, 2016, 08:23:45 AM »
The claims, having been examined and cross-checked, are found verified ....

No they haven't.

The mccanns and co., kept changing their accounts of events.

There is no proof of abduction. not even  forensic back-up.

and SY have found ZIP.