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Offline Mr Gray

Re: The Joana Cipriano case revisited.
« Reply #90 on: October 30, 2018, 01:21:51 PM »
Quote from: Sunny on October 30, 2018, 01:17:57 PM
Where did they claim to have witnessed it?  That is what I want the cite for Davel.  I haven't seen anywhere, where it says this.

This had all been gone over before... The PJ claimed she had thrown herself down the stairs in the PJ offices... How would
They know if they had not witnessed it...



Goncalo Amaral was found guilty of false testimony because he upheld, under oath - five months after the 'events' - the version that he had been given by his subordinates, i.e. that Leonor Cipriano had been injured when she tried to commit suicide by throwing herself over the railing of the stairs inside the PJ building in Faro.
From the link already provided
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Offline Sunny

Re: The Joana Cipriano case revisited.
« Reply #91 on: October 30, 2018, 01:30:14 PM »
Quote from: Davel on October 30, 2018, 01:21:51 PM
This had all been gone over before... The PJ claimed she had thrown herself down the stairs in the PJ offices... How would
They know if they had not witnessed it...

Someone told them?  Who is "they" by the way?
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: The Joana Cipriano case revisited.
« Reply #92 on: October 30, 2018, 01:37:05 PM »
Quote from: Sunny on October 30, 2018, 01:30:14 PM
Someone told them?  Who is "they" by the way?

Who told them
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Offline Sunny

Re: The Joana Cipriano case revisited.
« Reply #93 on: October 30, 2018, 01:44:59 PM »
Quote from: Davel on October 30, 2018, 01:37:05 PM
Who told them

You made the claim you back it up Davel.
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: The Joana Cipriano case revisited.
« Reply #94 on: October 30, 2018, 01:46:55 PM »
Quote from: Sunny on October 30, 2018, 01:44:59 PM
You made the claim you back it up Davel.

I already have


The defense’s version sustains that Leonor Cipriano confessed her will to commit suicide and that when she went to the toilet she threw herself off the stairs at the Polícia Judiciária in Faro.
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Offline Angelo222

Re: The Joana Cipriano case revisited.
« Reply #95 on: October 30, 2018, 02:13:50 PM »
Nothing those who advocate for the Cipriano's can say will ever change the fact that they killed Joana in what can only be seen as a despicable crime. Even before the murder Joana was abandoned to strangers to care for while the mother went off with various men.  It was only when Leandro Silva came latterly on the scene and took up with Leonora that the child attained some stability.
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: The Joana Cipriano case revisited.
« Reply #96 on: October 30, 2018, 02:19:40 PM »
Quote from: Angelo222 on October 30, 2018, 02:13:50 PM
Nothing those who advocate for the Cipriano's can say will ever change the fact that they killed Joana in what can only be seen as a despicable crime. Even before the murder Joana was abandoned to strangers to care for while the mother went off with various men.  It was only when Leandro Silva came latterly on the scene and took up with Leonora that the child attained some stability.

I can say I think she is probably innocent.. And you haven't been able to give one piece of real evidence... Because there isn't any
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Offline Angelo222

Re: The Joana Cipriano case revisited.
« Reply #97 on: October 30, 2018, 02:38:13 PM »
Quote from: Davel on October 30, 2018, 02:19:40 PM
I can say I think she is probably innocent.. And you haven't been able to give one piece of real evidence... Because there isn't any

You can think whatever you like, it's your credibility at stake. I prefer to state the facts as recorded and they clearly show that she might not be guilty of murder but of a conspiracy to pervert the course of justice and perjury.
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Offline Angelo222

Re: The Joana Cipriano case revisited.
« Reply #98 on: October 30, 2018, 02:51:51 PM »
Quote from: Davel on October 30, 2018, 01:46:55 PM
I already have


The defense’s version sustains that Leonor Cipriano confessed her will to commit suicide and that when she went to the toilet she threw herself off the stairs at the Polícia Judiciária in Faro.

Maybe she did for all we know.
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Offline Venturi Swirl

Re: The Joana Cipriano case revisited.
« Reply #99 on: October 30, 2018, 03:05:46 PM »
Quote from: Angelo222 on October 30, 2018, 02:13:50 PM
Nothing those who advocate for the Cipriano's can say will ever change the fact that they killed Joana in what can only be seen as a despicable crime. Even before the murder Joana was abandoned to strangers to care for while the mother went off with various men.  It was only when Leandro Silva came latterly on the scene and took up with Leonora that the child attained some stability.
Why are you so convinced there has been no miscarriage of justice in this case?  Do you believe the evidence gathering and subsequent court case were above reproach?
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Offline John

Re: The Joana Cipriano case revisited.
« Reply #100 on: October 30, 2018, 03:16:08 PM »
It never ceases to amaze how much interest this case attracts on the forum simply because of Gonçalo Amaral's involvement.
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A malicious prosecution for a crime which never existed. An exposé of egregious malfeasance by public officials.
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Offline Venturi Swirl

Re: The Joana Cipriano case revisited.
« Reply #101 on: October 30, 2018, 03:47:37 PM »
Quote from: John on October 30, 2018, 03:16:08 PM
It never ceases to amaze how much interest this case attracts on the forum simply because of Gonçalo Amaral's involvement.
It has very little to do with his involvement and everything to do with the way the case was handled, evidence (not) gatherered and evaluated and the treatment of the suspects and trial.
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Offline Sunny

Re: The Joana Cipriano case revisited.
« Reply #102 on: October 30, 2018, 03:54:39 PM »
Quote from: John on October 30, 2018, 03:16:08 PM
It never ceases to amaze how much interest this case attracts on the forum simply because of Gonçalo Amaral's involvement.

Exactly John.     If it hadn't been for his involvement we would not be sitting here discussing this.
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Offline Angelo222

Re: The Joana Cipriano case revisited.
« Reply #103 on: October 30, 2018, 04:06:30 PM »
Quote from: Sunny on October 30, 2018, 03:54:39 PM
Exactly John.     If it hadn't been for his involvement we would not be sitting here discussing this.

Nor would anyone give a toss for the Ciprianos.
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Offline Sunny

Re: The Joana Cipriano case revisited.
« Reply #104 on: October 30, 2018, 04:11:45 PM »
Quote from: Angelo222 on October 30, 2018, 04:06:30 PM
Nor would anyone give a toss for the Ciprianos.

We wouldn't have heard about them. I certainly don't give a toss about that murderous pair even now though.
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