UK votes for #BrExit from the EU. 52% Leave - 48% Stay.

[G-Unit]

Apparently Tony Bennett, tried to start a petition for the implementation of Article 50.

Someone beat him to it.

It will be interesting to mark it's progress in comparison to the one asking for a second referendum, which has now reached just over 4,099,000.

Here is the link for anyone interested;

https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/133618

[G-Unit]

If the UK needs immigrants why do they discriminate against non EU immigrants?

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2015/jul/09/couples-protest-18600-minimum-income-rule-foreign-spouse-uk

Restrictions on non-EU immigrants have affected NHS recruitment
https://fullfact.org/immigration/immigration-and-nhs-staff/

It seems that because the UK is bound to accept EU immigrants it has been putting obstacles in the path of non EU immigrants.

[stephen25000]

Now there is a third petition on the issue of the referendum.

https://petition.parliament.uk/signatures/23508165/signed?token=7VxTlLenoBzJ9HkkwOq

[John]

Although the leave vote was carried by a narrow margin in the UK as a whole the margin was wider in English areas, excluding London. England voted Leave;

West Midlands                                          59.26%
East Midlands                                          58.82%
North East England                                  58.04%
Yorkshire and the Humber                          57.71%
East of England                                          56.48%
North West England                                  53.65%
South West England & Gibraltar                  52.63%
South East England                                  51.78%

I make the English vote 56% Leave and 44% Remain.

Northern Ireland. London and Scotland voted Remain;

Northern Ireland                                          55.78%
London                                                  59.93%
Scotland                                                  62.00%

I make these votes 59% Remain and 41% Leave.

76% of the UK population live in England (excluding London). 24% live in London, Scotland and Northern Ireland, with the majority in London (8.5M). Northern Ireland have 1.8M and Scotland 5.3M.

Leaving aside age, class and education why does this geographical divide exist? How is it that the loudest voices seem to be those of 24% of the population? Perhaps that was a factor in this vote, that the English feel that they aren't heard and aren't considered?

You can ignore N Ireland and Scotland since their vote had everything to do with Republicanism and  Nationalism and little to do with the EU.  If you look at the actual figures for both countries the remainers never achieved a majority of the eligible voters ie Scots First Minister and leader of the SNP, Nicola Sturgeon, failed to carry the majority of eligible voters in the country.

[John]

There is now an online petition at Google.uk  asking for the immediate implementation of Article 50.

Just over 15,000 signatures at the moment

https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/133618/

I hadn't seen that, up to over 38,000 already.

https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/133618/

[John]

Come on.  This is a highly complex issue, beyond the ken of most folk - myself included.  I'm reasonably intelligent but found it hard to know who or what to believe.  If I'm an average Joe then it's fair to say the average voter was not well-informed enough to make a decision based on knowledge, experience or facts.  I would go so far as to say most voters chose remain or leave based on gut instinct and how much they liked or disliked the cut of the respective capaigners' jibs.  I can't prove this, so don't bother asking for cites - it's called an opinion.

I agree, most people have heard the arguments and can see the results for themselves every day of unchecked immigration.  Don't go complaining next time a foreigner takes your job or beats you in a job interview.

[stephen25000]

..and there's this one.

https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/133540

Let Parliament decide whether or not we remain a member of the European Union.

[John]

You can swing it anyway you want to.

However, a majority of the electorate did not vote for Brexit.

FACT.

No, just the 17 million odd who could be bothered to vote.

[stephen25000]

No, just the 17 million odd who could be bothered to vote.

Yet it wasn't a majority of the electorate.

[John]

Yet it wasn't a majority of the electorate.

It never is.

[rotti]

If the UK needs immigrants why do they discriminate against non EU immigrants?

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2015/jul/09/couples-protest-18600-minimum-income-rule-foreign-spouse-uk

Restrictions on non-EU immigrants have affected NHS recruitment
https://fullfact.org/immigration/immigration-and-nhs-staff/

It seems that because the UK is bound to accept EU immigrants it has been putting obstacles in the path of non EU immigrants.

good point.sounds like double standards or blatant racism &%+((£

[G-Unit]

Yet it wasn't a majority of the electorate.

Why keep repeating this mantra when it's irrelevant?

When did a majority of the electorate last vote for something Stephen?

[stephen25000]

Why keep repeating this mantra when it's irrelevant?

When did a majority of the electorate last vote for something Stephen?

This isn't the same as voting for a bunch of monkeys every 4 or 5 years, saying yah-boo to each other in Parliament.

Some, it appears on here are closest brexiters.

[Wonderfulspam]

This isn't the same as voting for a bunch of monkeys every 4 or 5 years, saying yah-boo to each other in Parliament.

Some, it appears on here are closest brexiters.

No that's right,  this isn't the same as voting for a bunch of monkeys every 4 or 5 years, saying yah-boo to each other in Parliament.

It's voting for a bunch of foreign monkeys... permanently .

[stephen25000]

No that's right,  this isn't the same as voting for a bunch of monkeys every 4 or 5 years, saying yah-boo to each other in Parliament.

It's voting for a bunch of foreign monkeys... permanently .

Well that was not exactly original.

Couldn't you come up with something better ?

Or would you rather do a Boris ?