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Offline Venturi Swirl

Re: McCanns appeal to the European Court of Human Rights
« Reply #1980 on: July 02, 2018, 03:30:10 PM »
If the McCann's Application which was supposedly lodged last autumn had been accepted it would be recorded within the system viewable by the public. The fact that it is not recorded must in reality mean it has either been withdrawn or was rejected at the very first hurdle.
Whilst I understand the logic of this and you may well be right, can you give an example from the system of a case which has been accepted but nothing more than that?
"Surely the fact that their accounts were different reinforces their veracity rather than diminishes it? If they had colluded in protecting ........ surely all of their accounts would be the same?" - Faithlilly

Offline John

Re: McCanns appeal to the European Court of Human Rights
« Reply #1981 on: July 02, 2018, 03:32:20 PM »
Whilst I understand the logic of this and you may well be right, can you give an example from the system of a case which has been accepted but nothing more than that?

Every case which is accepted is given a unique reference number and is searchable on the ECHR database.
A malicious prosecution for a crime which never existed. An exposé of egregious malfeasance by public officials.
Indeed, the truth never changes with the passage of time.

Offline Venturi Swirl

Re: McCanns appeal to the European Court of Human Rights
« Reply #1982 on: July 02, 2018, 03:33:49 PM »
Every case which is accepted is given a unique reference number and is searchable on the ECHR database.
If we don’t know the number how can we search for it?
"Surely the fact that their accounts were different reinforces their veracity rather than diminishes it? If they had colluded in protecting ........ surely all of their accounts would be the same?" - Faithlilly

Offline jassi

Re: McCanns appeal to the European Court of Human Rights
« Reply #1983 on: July 02, 2018, 03:35:48 PM »
If the McCann's Application which was supposedly lodged last autumn had been accepted it would be recorded within the system viewable by the public. The fact that it is not recorded must in reality mean it has either been withdrawn or was rejected at the very first hurdle.

extract  from - https://www.echr.coe.int/Documents/Your_Application_ENG.pdf

Your application to the ECHR:

Do  not  call  the  Court  to  check  whether  your  application  arrived 
safely. The Court will contact you if it needs any more information.
The  Central  Office  sorts  the  mail  and  sends  your  application  to  the 
legal division whose job it is to deal with it, that is, the legal division
responsible for the State against which the application is lodged. An
application  against  Germany,  for  example,  will  be  sent  to  the  legal 
division that deals with German cases, because the people working in
that division speak German and are familiar with the country’s legislation.
Your case will then be given a number and examined by a lawyer. This
does not necessarily mean that the Court has accepted your application;
it just means that it has been registered.

If the Court contacts you,
you must reply within the specified time, otherwise your file may
simply be rejected or destroyed
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

OG have been pushed out by the Germans who have reserved all the deck chairs for the foreseeable future

Offline Venturi Swirl

Re: McCanns appeal to the European Court of Human Rights
« Reply #1984 on: July 02, 2018, 03:38:21 PM »
This is where you go to search for progress on your application. Without knowing how the number you have no way of knowing the current situation with regard the McCann case

http://app.echr.coe.int/SOP/index.aspx?lg=en
"Surely the fact that their accounts were different reinforces their veracity rather than diminishes it? If they had colluded in protecting ........ surely all of their accounts would be the same?" - Faithlilly

Offline jassi

Re: McCanns appeal to the European Court of Human Rights
« Reply #1985 on: July 02, 2018, 03:39:55 PM »
This is where you go to search for progress on your case.  Without knowing how the number you have no way of knowing the current situation with regard the McCann case

http://app.echr.coe.int/SOP/index.aspx?lg=en


I posted that information a few posts back. You didn't seem interested  ?{)(**
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

OG have been pushed out by the Germans who have reserved all the deck chairs for the foreseeable future

Offline Venturi Swirl

Re: McCanns appeal to the European Court of Human Rights
« Reply #1986 on: July 02, 2018, 03:43:01 PM »

I posted that information a few posts back. You didn't seem interested  ?{)(**
I didn’t notice it, humble apologies.
"Surely the fact that their accounts were different reinforces their veracity rather than diminishes it? If they had colluded in protecting ........ surely all of their accounts would be the same?" - Faithlilly

Offline Mr Gray

Re: McCanns appeal to the European Court of Human Rights
« Reply #1987 on: July 02, 2018, 03:44:48 PM »
If the McCann's Application which was supposedly lodged last autumn had been accepted it would be recorded within the system viewable by the public. The fact that it is not recorded must in reality mean it has either been withdrawn or was rejected at the very first hurdle.

That's a bold statement... I cannot see any reason for the application to be rejected so can't see that you are correct

Offline Miss Taken Identity

Re: McCanns appeal to the European Court of Human Rights
« Reply #1988 on: July 02, 2018, 03:45:41 PM »
If we don’t know the number how can we search for it?

You won't have to-  the sauces of the McCanns will tell the Sun newspapers and...
'Never underestimate the power of stupid people'... George Carlin

Offline John

Re: McCanns appeal to the European Court of Human Rights
« Reply #1989 on: July 02, 2018, 03:46:07 PM »
If we don’t know the number how can we search for it?

You can simply search under the name McCann.
A malicious prosecution for a crime which never existed. An exposé of egregious malfeasance by public officials.
Indeed, the truth never changes with the passage of time.

Offline Venturi Swirl

Re: McCanns appeal to the European Court of Human Rights
« Reply #1990 on: July 02, 2018, 04:03:45 PM »
You can simply search under the name McCann.
Can you?  Even for initial applications?  That’s why I asked you if you had an example of another case at application stage only that we can look at.
"Surely the fact that their accounts were different reinforces their veracity rather than diminishes it? If they had colluded in protecting ........ surely all of their accounts would be the same?" - Faithlilly

Offline jassi

Re: McCanns appeal to the European Court of Human Rights
« Reply #1991 on: July 02, 2018, 04:06:23 PM »
As far as I can see, if an application has been made and a case number generated, the only people privy to that information are the McCanns and the court administrators .
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

OG have been pushed out by the Germans who have reserved all the deck chairs for the foreseeable future

Offline Mr Gray

Re: McCanns appeal to the European Court of Human Rights
« Reply #1992 on: July 02, 2018, 04:06:37 PM »
You can simply search under the name McCann.
If it had been rejected there would be a record of rejection.. I can't find one... But I can find noticed of rejection of two other recent cases

Offline slartibartfast

Re: McCanns appeal to the European Court of Human Rights
« Reply #1993 on: July 02, 2018, 04:07:04 PM »
extract  from - https://www.echr.coe.int/Documents/Your_Application_ENG.pdf

Your application to the ECHR:

Do  not  call  the  Court  to  check  whether  your  application  arrived 
safely. The Court will contact you if it needs any more information.
The  Central  Office  sorts  the  mail  and  sends  your  application  to  the 
legal division whose job it is to deal with it, that is, the legal division
responsible for the State against which the application is lodged. An
application  against  Germany,  for  example,  will  be  sent  to  the  legal 
division that deals with German cases, because the people working in
that division speak German and are familiar with the country’s legislation.
Your case will then be given a number and examined by a lawyer. This
does not necessarily mean that the Court has accepted your application;
it just means that it has been registered.

If the Court contacts you,
you must reply within the specified time, otherwise your file may
simply be rejected or destroyed

You wonder how that squares with the bit in the original article which says...

Quote
Last night the European Court of Human Rights confirmed an appeal had been lodged and officials were investigating its "admissibility’’ before deciding what to do next.
“Reasoning will never make a Man correct an ill Opinion, which by Reasoning he never acquired”.

Offline jassi

Re: McCanns appeal to the European Court of Human Rights
« Reply #1994 on: July 02, 2018, 04:10:33 PM »
You wonder how that squares with the bit in the original article which says...


The people at the ECHR had been on tenterhooks for months waiting for this important missive and felt bound to announce it's arrival to the world at large  @)(++(*

Alternatively it was Spin, pure and simple.
« Last Edit: July 02, 2018, 04:12:58 PM by jassi »
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

OG have been pushed out by the Germans who have reserved all the deck chairs for the foreseeable future