McCanns appeal to the European Court of Human Rights

[John]

The Portuguese authorities followed Portuguese and Human Rights law to the letter. The McCann's right to the presumption of innocence was not breached.

Absolutely true, refusing to answer the simplest of questions, avoiding a reconstruction and generally being obstructive and abusive to police officers has never been seen in policing circles as being conducive with innocence.

[Mr Gray]

Why do you keep harpimg back to the trial?  The ECHR isn't interested in a case between private individuals, they are concerned with human rights and only human rights.  As pointed out numerous times already, the case will be against Portugal and not Goncalo Amaral.  If the McCanns claim that their human rights have been violated then the human rights of their missing child will also come into the equation.

im harping back to the trial because the reason for going to the ECHR is because the Mccanns allege that the SC judgement denied them their human  rights.The human rights of Maddie are not in question and are totally irrelevant to their case...all imo.

[stephen25000]

im harping back to the trial because the reason for going to the ECHR is because the Mccanns allege that the SC judgement denied them their legal rights.The human rights of Maddie are not in question and are totally irrelevant to their case...all imo.

The Mccann's had their days in court, and they fluffed it.

How can you say they were denied their legal rights.

That is totally illogical.

By the way, just because the McCann's didn't get the judgement they wanted, doesn't mean due process wasn't followed. It clearly was, as per Portuguese law.

[slartibartfast]

im harping back to the trial because the reason for going to the ECHR is because the Mccanns allege that the SC judgement denied them their legal rights.The human rights of Maddie are not in question and are totally irrelevant to their case...all imo.

The McCanns are attempting to take Portugal to Court at the ECHR. What the court looks at is up to it.

[Mr Gray]

The McCanns are attempting to take Portugal to Court at the ECHR. What the court looks at is up to it.

The ECHR only looks at Human Rights. The SC expalined at length its decision with refernece to European Law. The only case the mccanns have is if they can show that the SC decision was flawed re european law...that makes perfect sense...imo

[slartibartfast]

The ECHR only looks at Human Rights. The SC expalined at length its decision with refernece to European Law. The only case the mccanns have is if they can show that the SC decision was flawed re european law...that makes perfect sense...imo

They can still look at whatever they think is relevant.

[Mr Gray]

They can still look at whatever they think is relevant.

so who has denied the mccanns their human rights...the SC......its rather strange to suggest they wont look at the judgement that they claim denied them their human rights..IMO...they will not consider Maddies Human rights ...unless the mccanns complain that portugal has violated them.....all my opinion

[Mr Gray]

The Mccann's had their days in court, and they fluffed it.

How can you say they were denied their legal rights.

That is totally illogical.

By the way, just because the McCann's didn't get the judgement they wanted, doesn't mean due process wasn't followed. It clearly was, as per Portuguese law.

It is up to the ECHR to decide if the Mccanns human rights have been denied...it is they who will decide...imo iys totally logical...and again it is NOT portuguese law that is in question,...its european law

[stephen25000]

It is not Amaral anymore.

That is done and dusted.

Any case, is against the state of Portugal.

Did you read the data I supplied yesterday from the E.C.H.R. ?

[slartibartfast]

so who has denied the mccanns their human rights...the SC......its rather strange to suggest they wont look at the judgement that they claim denied them their human rights..IMO...they will not consider Maddies Human rights ...unless the mccanns complain that portugal has violated them.....all my opinion

They will look at the everything appertaining to Madeleine’s disappearance IMO or just the final judgement.

[Mr Gray]

It is not Amaral anymore.

That is done and dusted.

Any case, is against the state of Portugal.

Did you read the data I supplied yesterday from the E.C.H.R. ?

if you read my posts you will see its MCcann Vs Portugal......re human rights.....how much clearer can I be. human rights they claim have been denied by the SC....

your data has little relevance to individual cases...each case is judged on its merits

[Mr Gray]

They will look at the everything appertaining to Madeleine’s disappearance IMO or just the final judgement.

they will look at everything pertaining to what the mccanns application claims.....and is relevant to the denial of the McCanns human rights..imo

[Mr Gray]

the most relevant thing to the denial of the mccanns human rights is the SC decision...imo...thats why the SC decision is important...Have the SC correctly applied european law in this case ...that is the question..all imo

[Mr Gray]

To put it really simply..

If te SC judgement is correct re european law then the mccanns have no case...the mccanns have to show the judgement is flawed...how anyone can anyone therefore claim the judgement is not relevant....all imo

[stephen25000]

the most relevant thing to the denial of the mccanns human rights is the SC decision...imo...thats why the SC decision is important...Have the SC correctly applied european law in this case ...that is the question..all imo

Then IMO, you are going to be very, very disappointed.