McCanns appeal to the European Court of Human Rights

[Mr Gray]

As you said your Opinion.

Its what we discuss on here...

[G-Unit]

my opinin is that the application will be accepted and I have clearly expalined which human rights have been affected so by your argument my opinion carries weight

You've given a quote from the first judgement and mentioned the balance between the right of free expression and the right to a good name.

Please explain how you think the McCann's right to the presumption of innocence was breached by the Portuguese state.

[Mr Gray]

You've given a quote from the first judgement and mentioned the balance between the right of free expression and the right to a good name.

Please explain how you think the McCann's right to the presumption of innocence was breached by the Portuguese state.

my opinion is that the mccanns right to reputation has suffered by amarals claims...defamation....thats where the  claim will focus..imo... I also believe that absence of evidence is evidence of innocence...a claim denied by the SC

[stephen25000]

my opinion is that the mccanns right to reputation has suffered by amarals claims...defamation....thats where the  claim will focus..imo... I also believe that absence of evidence is evidence of innocence...a claim denied by the SC

They have failed to prove that.

You merely need to read through the Supreme Court Judgement to see why the Mccann's failed.

[Mr Gray]

They have failed to prove that.

You merely need to read through the Supreme Court Judgement yo see why the Mccann's failed.

They have failed to prove that in the portugues courts...thats why they have now gone to Europe....tHe SC judgement is an opinion by the SC Judges...an interpretation....teh ECHR may not agree with their reasoning..imo

[stephen25000]

They have failed to prove that in the portugues courts...thats why they have now gone to Europe....tHe SC judgement is an opinion by the SC Judges...an interpretation....teh ECHR may not agree with their reasoning..imo

Where is the proof they have appealed to the E.C.H.R.  ?

[Mr Gray]

Another interesting point is that theSC seem to have based their judgement on the fact that the Mccnans are public figures....I think they are wrong on that too

[Mr Gray]

Where is the proof they have appealed to the E.C.H.R.  ?

evidence but no proof at the moment..

[Mr Gray]

stephen...you claim to have spoken to  barrister about the case...why are you so reluctant to share...does it not support your argument

[stephen25000]

Another interesting point is that theSC seem to have based their judgement on the fact that the Mccnans are public figures....I think they are wrong on that too

Wrong.

The Mccann's placed themselves in the public eye, and that includes their private lives.

In my opinion, a very foolish mistake to make.

[stephen25000]

stephen...you claim to have spoken to  barrister about the case...why are you so reluctant to share...does it not support your argument

 I would not have mentioned him, if he had not advised me on the matter. One of his areas of expertise is in human rights cases and he works in relation to the E.C.H.R.

You will be pleased to here I will be seeing him later today.

[Mr Gray]

Wrong.

The Mccann's placed themselves in the public eye, and that includes their private lives.

In my opinion, a very foolish mistake to make.

wrong iyo

the fact they placed themselves in the public eye does not make them public figures...imo

[Mr Gray]

I would not have mentioned him, if he had not advised me on the matter. One of his areas of expertise is in human rights cases and he works in relation to the E.C.H.R.

You will be pleased to here I will be seeing him later today.

But you have nothing to say from him that supports your view...thats the important thing

[stephen25000]

But you have nothing to say from him that supports your view...thats the important thing

Wrong Davel.

Believe what you wish. It won't change a thing.

[slartibartfast]

We have all aired our opinions until someone has something new to bring to the discussion maybe have a break.