McCanns appeal to the European Court of Human Rights

[Mr Gray]

The problem being how the ECtHR define "public figure" not how The OED defines public figure.

We agree on that one

[Mr Gray]

Would you like to explain what EU law has to do with the ECtHR?

"The European Union (EU) has decided not to be bound by the rulings of the European Court of Human Rights"

I think you know what I mean....shall I just post ECHR law in future

[stephen25000]

I think you know what I mean....shall I just post ECHR law in future

Law ?


The decisions can't be imposed on the countries affected.

They can ignore them as they wish, and do.

[Mr Gray]

Law ?


The decisions can't be imposed on the countries affected.

They can ignore them as they wish, and do.

what ruling has Portugal ignored...cute  please

[stephen25000]

what ruling has Portugal ignored...cute  please

We have dealt with this before.

The E.C.H.R. has no powers of enforcement.

So unless the country concerned applies the decision, It is effectively a toothless body.

So what laws are you talking about in a previous post ?

[Mr Gray]

We have dealt with this before.

The E.C.H.R. has no powers of enforcement.

So unless the country concerned applies the decision, It is effectively a toothless body.

So what laws are you talking about in a previous post ?

Again.....when have Portugal ever not implemented a ruling by the ECHR

[Mr Gray]

As I have never seen a case where Portugal refused to enforce a directive then I think it's reasonable to assume they would...imo

[stephen25000]

Again.....when have Portugal ever not implemented a ruling by the ECHR

Can you cite when they have ?

Remember I have a list of cases covering several decades.

Do you seriously imagine in your wildest imagination that the Portuguese are going to look kindly on the Mccann's after what they have done ?

Then of course, we still don't know a case was lodged with the E.C.H.R., let alone be accepted.

[Mr Gray]

Can you cite when they have ?

Remember I have a list of cases covering several decades.

Do you seriously imagine in your wildest imagination that the Portuguese are going to look kindly on the Mccann's after what they have done ?

Then of course, we still don't know a case was lodged with the E.C.H.R., let alone be accepted.

As you raised the issue......do you have a cite for Portugal refusing to implement a directive....I don't think you do.....as there is no record of a directive not being enforced then imo it's unlikely to happen

[Alice Purjorick]

?   The McCanns have to exhaust all domestic remedies first
That's why they challenged the SC decision...a hopeless but necessary exercise

The "book banning case" and "the libel trial" were two independant actions.

[Mr Gray]

The "book banning case" and "the libel trial" were two independant actions.

The judgement in the first instance banned the book

[Mr Gray]

Can you cite when they have ?

Remember I have a list of cases covering several decades.

Do you seriously imagine in your wildest imagination that the Portuguese are going to look kindly on the Mccann's after what they have done ?

Then of course, we still don't know a case was lodged with the E.C.H.R., let alone be accepted.

What you are suggesting is the Portuguese opinion of the mccanns s might cause them not to apply the law without bias....I think that is probably libellous against the Portuguese courts

I would expect the courts to behave in an honourable manner

[stephen25000]

What you are suggesting is the Portuguese opinion of the mccanns s might cause them not to apply the law without bias....I think that is probably libellous against the Portuguese courts

Not the courts Davel.

The state of Portugal.

[Mr Gray]

Not the courts Davel.

The state of Portugal.

When have they ever refused to enforce a directive....never it would seem

[Alice Purjorick]

The judgement in the first instance banned the book

So?