McCanns appeal to the European Court of Human Rights

[ShiningInLuz]

. I knew you’d be unable to answer so thanks for confirming it.

I'm confident you know basic English, such as the difference between a question and propaganda, and the difference between inability and choice.

Therein was the issue with your opener.  If you don't ask a genuine question, why should you feel entitled to a response?

It makes no sense.   

[Mr Gray]

Despite the question marks, I believe that is purely a propaganda statement, so I saw no point in engaging.  I still don't.

From what I have read Portugal has, a poor record on free speech when it comes to criticising it's establishment... It can actually be, a criminal offence to criticise public figures such as judges etc... So your claim as it being s Haven fir free speech is totally misguided... All my opinion

[Venturi Swirl]

I'm confident you know basic English, such as the difference between a question and propaganda, and the difference between inability and choice.

Therein was the issue with your opener.  If you don't ask a genuine question, why should you feel entitled to a response?

It makes no sense.   

How can a question be propaganda?  Your answer could be propaganda, I am simply asking what if any parameters there are on freedom of speech in Portugal.  I would say your question “Is Europe a little bit more fascist” is rather more akin to propaganda than my question.  I get that you don’t want to answer or can’t that’s fine, just leave it at that, it’s pointless your harping on to continue the argument.

[ShiningInLuz]

How can a question be propaganda?  Your answer could be propaganda, I am simply asking what if any parameters there are on freedom of speech in Portugal.  I would say your question “Is Europe a little bit more fascist” is rather more akin to propaganda than my question.  I get that you don’t want to answer or can’t that’s fine, just leave it at that, it’s pointless your harping on to continue the argument.

If you check back through the thread, you'll find I was quite willing to ignore your first comment.  The one 'harping on' was your good self.

I am delighted to learn you are willing to stop.   

[Mr Gray]

If you check back through the thread, you'll find I was quite willing to ignore your first comment.  The one 'harping on' was your good self.

I am delighted to learn you are willing to stop.   

Doesn't really matter as your premise that Portugal supports free, speech is false

[Venturi Swirl]

Doesn't really matter as your premise that Portugal supports free, speech is false

Exactly.  Yet in the McCann case they appear to have set a precedent that it’s OK to write a libellous book about someone so long as they were never charged, tried and cleared of the crime of which they are being accused in the book.  What a bonkers country!

[Mr Gray]

Exactly.  Yet in the McCann case they appear to have set a precedent that it’s OK to write a libellous book about someone so long as they were never charged, tried and cleared of the crime of which they are being accused in the book.  What a bonkers country!

Yet defamation is a criminal offence in Portugal... If you criticise a judge you could go to jail

[jassi]

Exactly.  Yet in the McCann case they appear to have set a precedent that it’s OK to write a libellous book about someone so long as they were never charged, tried and cleared of the crime of which they are being accused in the book.  What a bonkers country!

Different country, different laws.  Happens all over the world.

[Mr Gray]

Different country, different laws.  Happens all over the world.

The country is governed by ECHR Law

[G-Unit]

Exactly.  Yet in the McCann case they appear to have set a precedent that it’s OK to write a libellous book about someone so long as they were never charged, tried and cleared of the crime of which they are being accused in the book.  What a bonkers country!

Libellous in your opinion but not in the opinion of the Portuguese courts.

[barrier]

The country is governed by ECHR Law

Given the ECHR cannot turn over any judgement how does that work?

[Mr Gray]

Libellous in your opinion but not in the opinion of the Portuguese courts.

Cite for not libellous... I haven't seen that stated anywhere

[barrier]

Cite for not libellous... I haven't seen that stated anywhere

Is that why the argument fell down then becasue they didn't sue for libel?

[carlymichelle]

Given the ECHR cannot turn over any judgement how does that work?

so the  mcanns attempting to get the ECHR to  change any ruling is a  waste of time and money??

[Erngath]

so the  mcanns attempting to get the ECHR to  change any ruling is a  waste of time and money??

Do you believe they knew it was a waste of time and money before embarking on this step and if so why would they still pursue this action?