McCanns appeal to the European Court of Human Rights

[barrier]

It's a good job that I intend to live long and prosper.

Me three.

[Eleanor]

If you looked at other cases as I've done I think you would see that the SC were wrong in the McCann case too

Although not entirely wrong in the Case of The First Instance.  Younger Judges are up and coming which gives some hope for Portugal.

At least The ECHR will have noted that decision.

[Mr Gray]

Although not entirely wrong in the Case of The First Instance.  Younger Judges are up and coming which gives some hope for Portugal.

At least The ECHR will have noted that decision.

Totally agree

[Eleanor]

Me three.

Yep.  And a few others.  Who'd a thought it fifteen years ago?  But I haven't half learned a lot.  If only to add to my already vast cache of useless information.

[Eleanor]

Totally agree

I have wondered if The ECHR Judges actually read The Book, although probably not.  It can be very difficult for ordinary people to separate the wheat from the chaff when so much of it is irrelevant.  As has been frequently displayed on this Forum.

I had some discourse in Courts of Law during my hay days which first brought this to my attention.  But I never lost one single case.

[Eleanor]

I thought you already had. 

Now that is funny.  I nearly died laughing.

I am only 82 you know.  And brain still working.  Well, most of the time.

Comments like this are what gives me hope for you.

[G-Unit]

If you looked at other cases as I've done I think you would see that the SC were wrong in the McCann case too

We shall see, one day.

[Mr Gray]

We shall see, one day.

An accurate post for once

[misty]

The cases are very different. Defaming an individual is a civil matter but insulting a public body is a criminal matter. Most European countries have a similar law and offenders can be jailed.

Yes, I agree in hindsight and my comparison was poor in choice. In UK Government bodies cannot sue anyone for defamation due to the Derbyshire Principle. However, that doesn't take away the fact that SCP failed to recognise the journalist had greater rights to freedom of speech because he was writing about matters which were in the public interest (not to be confused with the interest of the public) about a government body with less protection under Article 8.

[Eleanor]

Yes, I agree in hindsight and my comparison was poor in choice. In UK Government bodies cannot sue anyone for defamation due to the Derbyshire Principle. However, that doesn't take away the fact that SCP failed to recognise the journalist had greater rights to freedom of speech because he was writing about matters which were in the public interest (not to be confused with the interest of the public) about a government body with less protection under Article 8.

Another good comment.

[Admin]

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[barrier]

A few stats from last year for Portugal, 5 cases went to the echr, 3 had violations, 2 didn't , so 60-40 split .

https://www.echr.coe.int/Documents/Stats_violation_2021_ENG.pdf

[barrier]

Updated Jan 22 shows that McCann /Healey V Portugal has still not reached the dizzy heights of noteworthy pending, those that are were communicated in 2017, 5 yr's is a standard perchance ? from communication to hearing.

[Miss Taken Identity]

Was anyones personal reputation attacked.. Was anyone accused of committing a criminal offence

These are the sort of things you need to look at

The reputation of neglecting their daughter- leaving her to all sorts of danger.
 Being a suspect in a criminal case?

Yes, been looked at...

[G-Unit]

The Sun is once again reporting that;

"MADELEINE McCann’s parents risk losing a large chunk of funds set aside to continue the search for her — to a former cop...

A source close to the family said: “If Gerry and Kate lose their appeal, there will be damages to pay and a big legal costs bill."
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/18286694/madeleine-mccann-search-fund-former-cop/

There's been no report of Amaral being awarded damages by any court.