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Offline Benice

Re: Blood spatter? Fact or myth?
« Reply #15 on: June 03, 2016, 10:02:47 AM »
In his book Amaral claims as a fact that Eddie alerted to that wall  - which is still claimed by some to have been 'blood spattered. 

Quote (ch 16)
 The investigators have hardly recovered from their amazement, when another, equally impressive, howl startles them. This time, Eddie has picked out that same odour under the window, just behind the sofa, on one of the walls in the lounge. That evening, in apartment 5A, the investigators begin to glimpse what might have happened.
End quote

Their conclusions that evening (before forensic testing) on ''what might have happened''  is a classic example of putting two and two together (before all the facts are known)  and making five.       And then sticking to their 'conclusions' inspite of the results of forensic testing which did not support them in any way.

AIMHO


The notion that innocence prevails over guilt – when there is no evidence to the contrary – is what separates civilization from barbarism.    Unfortunately, there are remains of barbarism among us.    Until very recently, it headed the PJ in Portimão. I hope he was the last one.
                                               Henrique Monteiro, chief editor, Expresso, Portugal

Offline Angelo222

Re: Blood spatter? Fact or myth?
« Reply #16 on: June 03, 2016, 03:39:32 PM »
In his book Amaral claims as a fact that Eddie alerted to that wall  - which is still claimed by some to have been 'blood spattered. 

Quote (ch 16)
 The investigators have hardly recovered from their amazement, when another, equally impressive, howl startles them. This time, Eddie has picked out that same odour under the window, just behind the sofa, on one of the walls in the lounge. That evening, in apartment 5A, the investigators begin to glimpse what might have happened.
End quote

Their conclusions that evening (before forensic testing) on ''what might have happened''  is a classic example of putting two and two together (before all the facts are known)  and making five.       And then sticking to their 'conclusions' inspite of the results of forensic testing which did not support them in any way.

AIMHO

Amaral never claimed that there was blood on the lounge wall.
De troothe has the annoying habit of coming to the surface just when you least expect it!!

Je ne regrette rien!!

Offline mercury

Re: Blood spatter? Fact or myth?
« Reply #17 on: June 03, 2016, 10:28:20 PM »
http://textusa.blogspot.co.uk/2013/11/fss-its-maddies-blood.html

http://textusa.blogspot.co.uk/2013/08/super-kid.html
http://textusa.blogspot.co.uk/2013/09/dna-is-dna.html

Have a read through the last two links relating specifically to this subject

The first lnk is connected

Unsure if forum rules apply here, ie are blogs allowed to be linked to,in which case delete if not, but theres some very good factual analysis, feel free to debunk/deconstruct
« Last Edit: June 03, 2016, 10:37:22 PM by mercury »

Offline Carana

Re: Blood spatter? Fact or myth?
« Reply #18 on: June 03, 2016, 10:30:25 PM »
Amaral never claimed that there was blood on the lounge wall.


So who is, then?

Offline Eleanor

Re: Blood spatter? Fact or myth?
« Reply #19 on: June 03, 2016, 10:55:58 PM »
http://textusa.blogspot.co.uk/2013/11/fss-its-maddies-blood.html

http://textusa.blogspot.co.uk/2013/08/super-kid.html
http://textusa.blogspot.co.uk/2013/09/dna-is-dna.html

Have a read through the last two links relating specifically to this subject

The first lnk is connected

Unsure if forum rules apply here, ie are blogs allowed to be linked to,in which case delete if not, but theres some very good factual analysis, feel free to debunk/deconstruct

Anyone prepared to wade through that interminable drivel is welcome as far as I'm concerned.

Offline mercury

Re: Blood spatter? Fact or myth?
« Reply #20 on: June 03, 2016, 11:02:46 PM »
Anyone prepared to wade through that interminable drivel is welcome as far as I'm concerned.

Thats how i felt when i read a few blog entries years ago, but patience is a virtue, and Im talking about the facts of the analysis, whch might be useful to SIL

Offline Eleanor

Re: Blood spatter? Fact or myth?
« Reply #21 on: June 03, 2016, 11:07:42 PM »
Thats how i felt when i read a few blog entries years ago, but patience is a virtue, and Im talking about the facts of the analysis, whch might be useful to SIL

My apologies.  Poor SiL

Textusa seriously addled my brain a long time ago

Offline mercury

Re: Blood spatter? Fact or myth?
« Reply #22 on: June 03, 2016, 11:11:16 PM »
My apologies.  Poor SiL

Textusa seriously addled my brain a long time ago

IM sure SIL will find things of much interest therein but I wouldnt expect her to try this late in the evening, it needs concentration and time, I wouldnt have flagged it up if I hadnt seen any merit

Offline Eleanor

Re: Blood spatter? Fact or myth?
« Reply #23 on: June 03, 2016, 11:16:48 PM »
IM sure SIL will find things of much interest therein but I wouldnt expect her to try this late in the evening, it needs concentration and time, I wouldnt have flagged it up if I hadnt seen any merit

I do appreciate the point you were making.

Offline ShiningInLuz

Re: Blood spatter? Fact or myth?
« Reply #24 on: June 03, 2016, 11:47:02 PM »
http://textusa.blogspot.co.uk/2013/11/fss-its-maddies-blood.html

http://textusa.blogspot.co.uk/2013/08/super-kid.html
http://textusa.blogspot.co.uk/2013/09/dna-is-dna.html

Have a read through the last two links relating specifically to this subject

The first lnk is connected

Unsure if forum rules apply here, ie are blogs allowed to be linked to,in which case delete if not, but theres some very good factual analysis, feel free to debunk/deconstruct
Thank you.

I remember quite a while ago finding this sort of info on the Internet but back in the day I was not interested enough to copy links or xref stories.

Oddly enough, a tale has to resurface many times before it gets elevated to the status of fact or myth.

And yup, I need to get my peeps before I dig into the details.
What's up, old man?

Offline mercury

Re: Blood spatter? Fact or myth?
« Reply #25 on: June 03, 2016, 11:55:10 PM »
I do appreciate the point you were making.

thanks NP

Offline mercury

Re: Blood spatter? Fact or myth?
« Reply #26 on: June 03, 2016, 11:55:51 PM »
Thank you.

I remember quite a while ago finding this sort of info on the Internet but back in the day I was not interested enough to copy links or xref stories.

Oddly enough, a tale has to resurface many times before it gets elevated to the status of fact or myth.

And yup, I need to get my peeps before I dig into the details.

NP
Look forward to your views
« Last Edit: June 04, 2016, 02:19:12 PM by John »

Offline ShiningInLuz

Re: Blood spatter? Fact or myth?
« Reply #27 on: June 04, 2016, 07:28:18 PM »
Obviously just wear and tear on the wall there. No high res image?
I can't find a larger image on the Internet.  I can enhance this photo to make it clearer, but I don't want to post 'fake' photos on-line.  There are enough issues already in this case.

I may be able to get a contact to check whether there is anything better than this.  I'll put out the feelers.
What's up, old man?

Offline lordpookles

Re: Blood spatter? Fact or myth?
« Reply #28 on: June 04, 2016, 10:36:44 PM »
I can't find a larger image on the Internet.  I can enhance this photo to make it clearer, but I don't want to post 'fake' photos on-line.  There are enough issues already in this case.

I may be able to get a contact to check whether there is anything better than this.  I'll put out the feelers.

Nice one. Be interesting to see a high rez image. I realised after reading the link that Mercury posted that those are actually markers pointing to spots on the wall.

Offline Carana

Re: Blood spatter? Fact or myth?
« Reply #29 on: June 05, 2016, 09:26:20 AM »
Nice one. Be interesting to see a high rez image. I realised after reading the link that Mercury posted that those are actually markers pointing to spots on the wall.

Yes, they are black numbered CSI markers - but as the photo is often associated with the word "blood" or "blood spatter", it's easy to see why some people just assume that the large dark marks must be splodges of dried blood...