Sunday Times claim that Smith e-fits had been suppressed for 5 years.

[pegasus]

The english witness did not use the word "uneasiness" but did use the words "staggered" and "no movement at all".
IMO identification by body positions and movements is simply not valid.
Do you accept it in one statement and dismiss it in another statement?

[pegasus]

IMO the two efits of the same man do not closely resemble the person many here  claim they do.

[Redblossom]

IMO the two efits of the same man do not closely resemble the person many here  claim they do.

Thats not the point of this thread pegasus
Do give your opinion on the point though, gnite >>>>>

[AnneGuedes]

The english witness did not use the word "uneasiness" but did use the words "staggered" and "no movement at all".
IMO identification by body positions and movements is simply not valid.
Do you accept it in one statement and dismiss it in another statement?

The English witness had a strange vision, I don't think this witness is credible. The PJ didn't and SY, it seems, didn't too.
The credible witness is Mr Smith, as reckoned by Mr Amaral and Mr Redwood. He said clearly that the man wasn't holding the child in a confortable manner.
If you can't experiment carrying a body, Pegasus, at least speak to first helpers !

[slartibartfast]

If you can't experiment carrying a body, Pegasus, at least speak to first helpers !

Speaking personally, a dead weight is not easy to move at the best of times.

[Silkywhiskers]

IMO the two efits of the same man do not closely resemble the person many here  claim they do.

Are you serious?

One of the sketches has his exact hairline, the other could be a portrait!

Important to note that NEITHER appear Portuguese, or Africa.

What are the chances of another athletically built Caucasian , with the appearance of Gerry McCann, striding about PDL with Madeleine that night?

[sadie]

Are you serious?

One of the sketches has his exact hairline, the other could be a portrait!

Important to note that NEITHER appear Portuguese, or Africa.

What are the chances of another athletically built Caucasian , with the appearance of Gerry McCann, striding about PDL with Madeleine that night?

Was it in the Smiths statements that Smithman was atletically built?  Where?

[faithlilly]

I love it! especially the bit about too expensive. By extension that means they were only willing to spend so much in an attempt to find the little girl. Very frugal with money donated by the public for the very purpose. But there will be an innocent explanation.

That is a very good point. Enough money was available, from the fund I presume, to pay lawyers to threaten Oakley with regard to their report yet not enough to follow up the Smith sighting. Now how does that work ?

[icabodcrane]

That is a very good point. Enough money was available, from the fund I presume, to pay lawyers to threaten Oakley with regard to their report yet not enough to follow up the Smith sighting. Now how does that work ?

I agree that Estuarine raised an important point 

It is surprising that we have not addressed the point on this forum,  and that no specific thread exists on which we might 

A McCann spokesperson announced that the reason the man the Smiths saw was not publicised was a question of money  ...  that they could not afford investigate the two sightings that were made that night,  and had to 'choose'  one or the other 

This is an astonishing statement to make  ...   and there was no retraction of it 

What does the forum make of that line of reasoning  ?

[pegasus]

To print copies of 2 efits and send to all major Portuguese and UK newspapers and TV stations estimated cost £50.

[Silkywhiskers]

IMO the two efits of the same man do not closely resemble the person many here  claim they do.

Are you serious?

One of the sketches has his exact hairline, the other could be a portrait!

Important to note that NEITHER appear Portuguese, or Africa.

What are the chances of another athletically built Caucasian , with the appearance of Gerry McCann, striding about PDL with Madeleine that night?

What do I think of the Smithman mess?  The surest sign of guilt so far, which cannot be disguised or explained any other way.

Its amusing to see the feeble attempts on this forum.

[icabodcrane]

To photocopy 2 efits and send to all major Portuguese and UK newspapers and TV stations estimated cost £50.

To speak about it and show the efit at the many interviews they gave  ...  cost zero

To show the efits on Oprah  (  thereby reaching a worldwide audience  )  ...  cost zero

To include the efit in Kate's book  ...  cost zero

[AnneGuedes]

To speak about it and show the efit at the many interviews they gave  ...  cost zero

To show the efits on Oprah  (  thereby reaching a worldwide audience  )  ...  cost zero

To include the efit in Kate's book  ...  cost zero

Financial cost zero, but what about the psychological one ?

[Silkywhiskers]

Financial cost zero, but what about the psychological one ?

That is only a factor if those involved are not sociopaths.

There is no chance of psychological damage if you don't have a conscience.

[AnneGuedes]

That is only a factor if those involved are not sociopaths.

There is no chance of psychological damage if you don't have a conscience.

I"ve no doubt they have one, though it's very disturbing to realise that culture doesn't prevent human beings to behave like barbarians.