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Offline Venturi Swirl

Re: Maddie cops seek yet more cash
« Reply #195 on: August 16, 2020, 06:42:05 AM »
So saying the dog alerts could be used as intelligence before the searches and then saying they couldn't afterwards isn't changing his mind?

I don't see the alerts as evidence, I see them as intelligence suggesting a possibility deserving of being considered.
You don’t need a barking dog to consider the possibility.
"Surely the fact that their accounts were different reinforces their veracity rather than diminishes it? If they had colluded in protecting ........ surely all of their accounts would be the same?" - Faithlilly

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Maddie cops seek yet more cash
« Reply #196 on: August 16, 2020, 08:13:06 AM »
So saying the dog alerts could be used as intelligence before the searches and then saying they couldn't afterwards isn't changing his mind?

I don't see the alerts as evidence, I see them as intelligence suggesting a possibility deserving of being considered.

Harrison never said that...I'm afraid it seems you are making things up. We know exactly what he said its in the files and I don't see he changed his mind. If you disagree please provide a cite for his use use of the word intelligence pre and post search.

First thing to consider is what is meant by intelligence...could you explain what you think it means.

For me intelligence tells the investigator where to look for evidence...that's exactly what the alerts do. Similar to statistics which tell us if a child disappears the perpetrator is likely to be a family or friend. It tells us where to look. ...but its not evidence. It's useful but you can't go into court and use it as evidence against parents.

That's the mistake the portuguese made. They even had the ignorance to put it into the proven facts. all that shows is how incompetent the initial investigation was. According to an article in the Guardian at the libel trial almeida testified that the main evidence against the McCanns was the alerts...yet even you accept the alerts are not evidence..Can you not see how blatantly incompetent that is...You don't seem as open minded as you think you are.
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Offline Brietta

Re: Maddie cops seek yet more cash
« Reply #197 on: October 01, 2020, 09:51:16 AM »
MADDIE SEARCH CASH Madeleine McCann cops get extra £350,000 to continue investigtion — taking total to over £12million
EXCLUSIVE
Mike SullivanNick Pisa
30 Sep 2020, 22:49Updated: 30 Sep 2020, 22:51

POLICE have been given more cash to continue their probe into Madeleine McCann’s disappearance — taking the total to well beyond £12million.

The latest Home Office grant to the Met’s Operation Grange is believed to be around £350,000 and will cover work on the inquiry until the end of March 2021.

The extra cash suggests the international probe into prime suspect Christian B. will continue for at least another six months, experts say.

The Home Office declined to specify the amount of the grant, but said: “Ministers have agreed funding up to March 31, 2021. The cost of Operation Grange was £12million to the end of the 2019-20 financial year.”

Former Met detective chief inspector Mick Neville said: “The sum of £12million seems an awful lot of money. But if she has been murdered, her killer must be brought to justice. Any parent would want the same if it was their child.”

Madeleine was three when she disappeared while on holiday in Portugal in 2007. German paedophile and rapist Christian B., 43, is suspected of snatching her from her room in Praia da Luz while her parents were dining at a tapas bar.


German prosecutors say they have firm evidence Madeleine is dead.

The Grange team of four officers is in a background role. German cops are taking the lead with Portuguese authorities.

Wages for the officers are the Met’s responsibility but the government money will fund flights, hotels and other costs of the international inquiry.

Mr Neville added: “It must be remembered that Madeleine McCann may still be alive, whatever the opinion of German prosecutors.”

Operation Grange was set up in 2011 following an open letter in The Sun from Madeleine’s parents to PM David Cameron.

It has provided mobile phone data to German prosecutors as they slowly build a case against Christian B, who is in jail for drug offences.

His lawyer insists he was not involved.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/12813759/madeleine-mccann-cops-get-more-cash-to-continue-investigtion/
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline Venturi Swirl

Re: Maddie cops seek yet more cash
« Reply #198 on: October 01, 2020, 12:32:05 PM »
Good news.
"Surely the fact that their accounts were different reinforces their veracity rather than diminishes it? If they had colluded in protecting ........ surely all of their accounts would be the same?" - Faithlilly

Offline faithlilly

Re: Maddie cops seek yet more cash
« Reply #199 on: October 01, 2020, 12:33:35 PM »
MADDIE SEARCH CASH Madeleine McCann cops get extra £350,000 to continue investigtion — taking total to over £12million
EXCLUSIVE
Mike SullivanNick Pisa
30 Sep 2020, 22:49Updated: 30 Sep 2020, 22:51

POLICE have been given more cash to continue their probe into Madeleine McCann’s disappearance — taking the total to well beyond £12million.

The latest Home Office grant to the Met’s Operation Grange is believed to be around £350,000 and will cover work on the inquiry until the end of March 2021.

The extra cash suggests the international probe into prime suspect Christian B. will continue for at least another six months, experts say.

The Home Office declined to specify the amount of the grant, but said: “Ministers have agreed funding up to March 31, 2021. The cost of Operation Grange was £12million to the end of the 2019-20 financial year.”

Former Met detective chief inspector Mick Neville said: “The sum of £12million seems an awful lot of money. But if she has been murdered, her killer must be brought to justice. Any parent would want the same if it was their child.”

Madeleine was three when she disappeared while on holiday in Portugal in 2007. German paedophile and rapist Christian B., 43, is suspected of snatching her from her room in Praia da Luz while her parents were dining at a tapas bar.


German prosecutors say they have firm evidence Madeleine is dead.

The Grange team of four officers is in a background role. German cops are taking the lead with Portuguese authorities.

Wages for the officers are the Met’s responsibility but the government money will fund flights, hotels and other costs of the international inquiry.

Mr Neville added: “It must be remembered that Madeleine McCann may still be alive, whatever the opinion of German prosecutors.”

Operation Grange was set up in 2011 following an open letter in The Sun from Madeleine’s parents to PM David Cameron.

It has provided mobile phone data to German prosecutors as they slowly build a case against Christian B, who is in jail for drug offences.

His lawyer insists he was not involved.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/12813759/madeleine-mccann-cops-get-more-cash-to-continue-investigtion/

Perhaps it’s for that undercover operation Brunt was talking about ?
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline Brietta

Re: Maddie cops seek yet more cash
« Reply #200 on: October 01, 2020, 12:57:16 PM »
Perhaps it’s for that undercover operation Brunt was talking about ?

Perhaps it is for "Justice for Madeleine",
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline Venturi Swirl

Re: Maddie cops seek yet more cash
« Reply #201 on: October 01, 2020, 01:45:43 PM »
Unless I'm very much mistaken it seems that some people have interpreted Brunt's comment about an "undercover operation" as an investigation into the McCanns which would be funny if it wasn't so pitifully desperate. 
"Surely the fact that their accounts were different reinforces their veracity rather than diminishes it? If they had colluded in protecting ........ surely all of their accounts would be the same?" - Faithlilly

Offline faithlilly

Re: Maddie cops seek yet more cash
« Reply #202 on: October 01, 2020, 05:36:14 PM »
Perhaps it is for "Justice for Madeleine",

Not sure what your getting at but there appears to be or has been an undercover operation running alongside that of the German one. At the least there appears to be two suspects.
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline Brietta

Re: Maddie cops seek yet more cash
« Reply #203 on: October 01, 2020, 05:51:55 PM »
Not sure what your getting at but there appears to be or has been an undercover operation running alongside that of the German one. At the least there appears to be two suspects.

You may think that there are and in all likelihood have been as many suspects as you wish.  It is what the real police do after all
  • following evidence
  • investigating suspects as a result
  • ruling in or ruling out said suspects as appropriate
  • following the evidence
Just mundane and systematic everyday repetitive police procedure ... nothing at all extraordinary about it.
But since you can only speculate in the absence of any in-depth knowledge it is probably best to wait for the professionals to let us know if they have a result or not.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline faithlilly

Re: Maddie cops seek yet more cash
« Reply #204 on: October 01, 2020, 07:56:45 PM »
You may think that there are and in all likelihood have been as many suspects as you wish.  It is what the real police do after all
  • following evidence
  • investigating suspects as a result
  • ruling in or ruling out said suspects as appropriate
  • following the evidence
Just mundane and systematic everyday repetitive police procedure ... nothing at all extraordinary about it.
But since you can only speculate in the absence of any in-depth knowledge it is probably best to wait for the professionals to let us know if they have a result or not.

Indeed but interesting nonetheless that Brueckner doesn’t seem to be the only suspect. An undercover operation is expensive and complicated, the target must be credible....and of course is not Brueckner.
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline barrier

Re: Maddie cops seek yet more cash
« Reply #205 on: October 01, 2020, 08:03:40 PM »
So the Germans have the prime suspect under lock and key yet OG still need the money which is similar to previous years to take a back seat?

The Grange team of four officers is in a background role. German cops are taking the lead with Portuguese authorities.
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Offline Brietta

Re: Maddie cops seek yet more cash
« Reply #206 on: October 01, 2020, 08:37:56 PM »
So the Germans have the prime suspect under lock and key yet OG still need the money which is similar to previous years to take a back seat?

The Grange team of four officers is in a background role. German cops are taking the lead with Portuguese authorities.


I didn't see the press conferences where it was intimated that the investigation of Madeleine's case had been completed, must have missed them.
Where was it you saw them ?
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline Venturi Swirl

Re: Maddie cops seek yet more cash
« Reply #207 on: October 01, 2020, 09:03:56 PM »
So the Germans have the prime suspect under lock and key yet OG still need the money which is similar to previous years to take a back seat?

The Grange team of four officers is in a background role. German cops are taking the lead with Portuguese authorities.

What’s the prime suspect under lock and key got to do with it?
"Surely the fact that their accounts were different reinforces their veracity rather than diminishes it? If they had colluded in protecting ........ surely all of their accounts would be the same?" - Faithlilly

Offline pathfinder73

Re: Maddie cops seek yet more cash
« Reply #208 on: October 03, 2020, 04:41:33 PM »
So the Germans have the prime suspect under lock and key yet OG still need the money which is similar to previous years to take a back seat?

The Grange team of four officers is in a background role. German cops are taking the lead with Portuguese authorities.


Grange will be working on their own suspect. The Germans can waste time on theirs.
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Offline Robittybob1

Re: Maddie cops seek yet more cash
« Reply #209 on: October 03, 2020, 07:20:35 PM »
Grange will be working on their own suspect. The Germans can waste time on theirs.
And when the Germans and the Grange detectives release the names of their suspects then we will find out if they are the one and the same supect.
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