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Offline G-Unit

Timeline May 3rd
« on: June 28, 2018, 10:18:57 AM »
Given the difficulties of checking the timeline which have been highlighted in the Reconstitution thread how was it possible for Operation Grange to accept it?

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Offline Venturi Swirl

Re: Timeline May 3rd
« Reply #1 on: June 28, 2018, 10:56:49 AM »
You'd have to address your question to them, because as far as I know, no one here is a member of Operation Grange. 
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Offline G-Unit

Re: Timeline May 3rd
« Reply #2 on: June 28, 2018, 11:47:16 AM »
You'd have to address your question to them, because as far as I know, no one here is a member of Operation Grange.

You were happy to point out one of the problems before;

When Gerry and Jane tried to recreate the moment of her sighting they couldn’t agree on detail so imagine that x 9 x 300 minutes
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Offline Miss Taken Identity

Re: Timeline May 3rd
« Reply #3 on: June 28, 2018, 11:55:40 AM »
Given the difficulties of checking the timeline which have been highlighted in the Reconstitution thread how was it possible for Operation Grange to accept it?

Indeed! I also wonder if it only took 30 seconds to get from the tapas to the children  how come it took them 10,15/ 30 minutes to get there and back from the 'check'...

However, we don't know if they agreed with the timeline- they smacked JT's sighting as an abductor.  We can only read what we are given.
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Offline Venturi Swirl

Re: Timeline May 3rd
« Reply #4 on: June 28, 2018, 05:26:20 PM »
You were happy to point out one of the problems before;

When Gerry and Jane tried to recreate the moment of her sighting they couldn’t agree on detail so imagine that x 9 x 300 minutes
http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=9756.msg471352#msg471352
Did the Met assemble the Tapas 9 to get them to have a big argument about what happened or did they go through the individual timelines forensically and piece them together like a jigsaw, without further input from the relevant protagonists?  If they could do this, why couldn't the PJ?
"Surely the fact that their accounts were different reinforces their veracity rather than diminishes it? If they had colluded in protecting ........ surely all of their accounts would be the same?" - Faithlilly

Offline Carana

Re: Timeline May 3rd
« Reply #5 on: June 28, 2018, 06:18:21 PM »
You were happy to point out one of the problems before;

When Gerry and Jane tried to recreate the moment of her sighting they couldn’t agree on detail so imagine that x 9 x 300 minutes
http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=9756.msg471352#msg471352

They agreed to disagree.

How would a reconstruction involving only the T9 + 1 have resolved this?

Offline Miss Taken Identity

Re: Timeline May 3rd
« Reply #6 on: June 28, 2018, 06:24:34 PM »
They agreed to disagree.

How would a reconstruction involving only the T9 + 1 have resolved this?


Good question. And the answer is....
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Offline Robittybob1

Re: Timeline May 3rd
« Reply #7 on: June 28, 2018, 06:27:17 PM »
They agreed to disagree.

How would a reconstruction involving only the T9 + 1 have resolved this?
Is it too late?
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Offline Miss Taken Identity

Re: Timeline May 3rd
« Reply #8 on: June 28, 2018, 07:44:55 PM »
Did the Met assemble the Tapas 9 to get them to have a big argument about what happened or forensically did they go through the individual timelines  and piece them together like a jigsaw, without further input from the relevant protagonists?  If they could do this, why couldn't the PJ?

Did the Met assemble the Tapas 9. You will have to ask them that.

 If they could do this, why couldn't the PJ?.           Great question and the answer is?
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Offline G-Unit

Re: Timeline May 3rd
« Reply #9 on: June 28, 2018, 09:34:05 PM »
They agreed to disagree.

How would a reconstruction involving only the T9 + 1 have resolved this?

More to the point, how did the 'forensic examination' by Operation Grange resolve it?
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Offline Miss Taken Identity

Re: Timeline May 3rd
« Reply #10 on: June 28, 2018, 10:29:10 PM »
More to the point, how did the 'forensic examination' by Operation Grange resolve it?


Yes... How did they do THAT.  8)-)))
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Offline Robittybob1

Re: Timeline May 3rd
« Reply #11 on: June 28, 2018, 11:02:50 PM »

Yes... How did they do THAT.  8)-)))
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Offline G-Unit

Re: Timeline May 3rd
« Reply #12 on: June 29, 2018, 08:05:54 AM »
Did the Met assemble the Tapas 9 to get them to have a big argument about what happened or did they go through the individual timelines forensically and piece them together like a jigsaw, without further input from the relevant protagonists?  If they could do this, why couldn't the PJ?

Both forces seem to have been unconvinced by the group's suggestion that an abductor took Madeleine and was spotted by Jane Tanner. The PJ proposed testing the story in real time. Operation Grange found crecheman.

Jane didn't see an abductor, so the questions about how she managed to slip past the two men and whether she could see what she described became irrelevant.

Operation Grange made no attempt to explain why the checkers found the children's bedroom door was being moved between visits. Have they just dismissed those reports? It would seem so.
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Offline Venturi Swirl

Re: Timeline May 3rd
« Reply #13 on: June 29, 2018, 08:42:53 AM »
Both forces seem to have been unconvinced by the group's suggestion that an abductor took Madeleine and was spotted by Jane Tanner. The PJ proposed testing the story in real time. Operation Grange found crecheman.

Jane didn't see an abductor, so the questions about how she managed to slip past the two men and whether she could see what she described became irrelevant.

Operation Grange made no attempt to explain why the checkers found the children's bedroom door was being moved between visits. Have they just dismissed those reports? It would seem so.
I always thought the door thing was vastly overblown in importance by the sceptics and so it wouldn’t surprise me if Op Grange did too.
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Offline Angelo222

Re: Timeline May 3rd
« Reply #14 on: June 29, 2018, 09:04:34 AM »
I always thought the door thing was vastly overblown in importance by the sceptics and so it wouldn’t surprise me if Op Grange did too.

IMO one can take just about everything that supposedly occured between 5.30pm and 10pm with a very large pinch of salt because of the conflicting stories. Just why the tapas group sat down and worked out a timeline has always fascinated me, who were they trying to protect and from what??
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