Author Topic: McCanns appeal to the European Court of Human Rights  (Read 530854 times)

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stephen25000

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Re: McCanns appeal to the European Court of Human Rights
« Reply #765 on: December 12, 2017, 09:13:06 AM »
To put it really simply..

If te SC judgement is correct re european law then the mccanns have no case...the mccanns have to show the judgement is flawed...how anyone can anyone therefore claim the judgement is not relevant....all imo

The Mccanns went to court, thinking Amaral was an easy target, and that they would gain a load of dosh.

They lost.

Meanwhile , they still owe fees to the Portuguese.

Offline Mr Gray

Re: McCanns appeal to the European Court of Human Rights
« Reply #766 on: December 12, 2017, 09:14:23 AM »
If you look at other ECHR cases they constantly refer to court judgements made by the countries courts....

Offline slartibartfast

Re: McCanns appeal to the European Court of Human Rights
« Reply #767 on: December 12, 2017, 09:14:40 AM »
they will look at everything pertaining to what the mccanns application claims.....and is relevant to the denial of the McCanns human rights..imo

Many a lawyer has attempted to restrict what a court looks at, usually unsuccessfully IMO.
“Reasoning will never make a Man correct an ill Opinion, which by Reasoning he never acquired”.

Offline Mr Gray

Re: McCanns appeal to the European Court of Human Rights
« Reply #768 on: December 12, 2017, 09:16:12 AM »
Many a lawyer has attempted to restrict what a court looks at, usually unsuccessfully IMO.

are you suggesting the mccanns lawyers will try and do this...its  a massive assumption to make

Offline slartibartfast

Re: McCanns appeal to the European Court of Human Rights
« Reply #769 on: December 12, 2017, 09:22:39 AM »
are you suggesting the mccanns lawyers will try and do this...its  a massive assumption to make

Not really, every lawyer will know their case has areas of strength and areas of weakness. They will try to steer away from the weak areas and concentrate on the strong. IMO their lawyers will avoid the subject of child care though of course it is well documented in the final judgement so it will probably come up.
“Reasoning will never make a Man correct an ill Opinion, which by Reasoning he never acquired”.

stephen25000

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Re: McCanns appeal to the European Court of Human Rights
« Reply #770 on: December 12, 2017, 09:23:50 AM »
If you look at other ECHR cases they constantly refer to court judgements made by the countries courts....

...and ?

As stated, the E.C.H.R. has no powers of enforcement, and the majority of claims are rejected.


Offline Mr Gray

Re: McCanns appeal to the European Court of Human Rights
« Reply #771 on: December 12, 2017, 09:25:08 AM »
Not really, every lawyer will know their case has areas of strength and areas of weakness. They will try to steer away from the weak areas and concentrate on the strong. IMO their lawyers will avoid the subject of child care though of course it is well documented in the final judgement so it will probably come up.

WE will have to wait and see ....not relevant imo

Offline Mr Gray

Re: McCanns appeal to the European Court of Human Rights
« Reply #772 on: December 12, 2017, 09:26:07 AM »
...and ?

As stated, the E.C.H.R. has no powers of enforcement, and the majority of claims are rejected.

We have been through all this before so I dont see the point in discussing the same points again

stephen25000

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Re: McCanns appeal to the European Court of Human Rights
« Reply #773 on: December 12, 2017, 09:28:19 AM »
We have been through all this before so I dont see the point in discussing the same points again

It is quite relevant, if the E.C.H.R. has no powers of enforcement.

Offline slartibartfast

Re: McCanns appeal to the European Court of Human Rights
« Reply #774 on: December 12, 2017, 09:34:05 AM »
WE will have to wait and see ....not relevant imo

IMO They will want to know about every aspect of the case.
“Reasoning will never make a Man correct an ill Opinion, which by Reasoning he never acquired”.

Offline Mr Gray

Re: McCanns appeal to the European Court of Human Rights
« Reply #775 on: December 12, 2017, 09:40:43 AM »
At the centre of this trial, there is a conflict between two existing rights, the right to good name and reputation of the claimants (through the presumption of innocence that they always were entitled to) and the right to freedom of expression of the defendant, in the concrete field of the right to opinion he is entitled to.


This is what teh ECHR will be concerned with and nothing else...imo

stephen25000

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Re: McCanns appeal to the European Court of Human Rights
« Reply #776 on: December 12, 2017, 10:13:10 AM »
At the centre of this trial, there is a conflict between two existing rights, the right to good name and reputation of the claimants (through the presumption of innocence that they always were entitled to) and the right to freedom of expression of the defendant, in the concrete field of the right to opinion he is entitled to.


This is what teh ECHR will be concerned with and nothing else...imo

You seem to have forgotten that Amaral has human rights too, and the mccanns quite clearly intended to destroy Amaral in taking him to court in the first place...imo

Offline kizzy

Re: McCanns appeal to the European Court of Human Rights
« Reply #777 on: December 12, 2017, 10:33:40 AM »
You seem to have forgotten that Amaral has human rights too, and the mccanns quite clearly intended to destroy Amaral in taking him to court in the first place...imo


Also be miserable and feel fear, the mccanns are good at that imo.

Offline Mr Gray

Re: McCanns appeal to the European Court of Human Rights
« Reply #778 on: December 12, 2017, 10:35:47 AM »
You seem to have forgotten that Amaral has human rights too, and the mccanns quite clearly intended to destroy Amaral in taking him to court in the first place...imo

If you read the post you quoted you will see I haven't forgot

stephen25000

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Re: McCanns appeal to the European Court of Human Rights
« Reply #779 on: December 12, 2017, 10:36:32 AM »

Also be miserable and feel fear, the mccanns are good at that imo.


Indeed Kizzy, I remember exactly what Kate McCann wanted Amaral to feel.