McCanns appeal to the European Court of Human Rights

[Mr Gray]

Here it is in all its glory.


‘
Judge - Were you diagnosed with a clinical depression?
Kate Healy (McCann) No. Depression is an over-diagnosed, over used term to diagnose those who feel a bit down, clinically I wasn't depressed.
Judge - There is a quote attributed to you - did you ever say that you wished you were in a coma so you wouldn't suffer?
Kate Healy (McCann) Yes.
Judge - Did that have to do with the disappearance of your child, or with the book and the documentary?
Kate Healy (McCann) Both were overwhelming, but it was intensified when the book was published.’

Part of the claim against Amaral said that his book caused a severe depression yet Kate denies it when giving evidence. Talk about shooting yourself in the foot ! It would appear this lady will go to any length to maintain the veneer of respectability, even scuppering her own case.

Kate denied having clinical depression...she does not deny being depressed...

[faithlilly]

Did The Judge ask that?

A cite is require.  Otherwise I will remove this comment.

Cite posted.

[faithlilly]

Kate denied having clinical depression...she does not deny being depressed...

What, being a little bit sad? Her daughter had been allegedly abducted. I’d be surprised if she wasn’t ‘a little bit sad’.

[G-Unit]

As I recall, they claimed damages for all the family, but for different reasons. In the case of the parents the damages were to compensate them for their pain, suffering and emotional distress. They felt;

"totally destroyed, depressed, feeling ashamed and experiencing a deep malaise because they are considered as having responsibility in the disappearance of their daughter and as coward people who have hidden her body, simulating a kidnapping."

That claim wasn't proved, but this was;

"Because of the statements made by defendant Gonçalo Amaral in the book, in the documentary and in the interview to Correio da Manhã, authors Kate McCann and Gerald McCann suffer permanent anguish, insomnia, lack of appetite, anxiety and irritability, preoccupation and indefinable fear."

With a caveat;

"The judge adds that this psychological state is predates the book launch, the documentary and the interview and was not caused by them. Nonetheless, it is not unreasonable to believe that the book, the documentary and the interview had an effect on the couple, i.e. It had an effect but that is to be expected."

The judge seems to be saying that they did feel that way, but the feelings weren't caused by the book, the documentary or the interview.

 

[Eleanor]

Cite posted.

That Cite is not good enough.  The comment was twisted, to say the least.

[Miss Taken Identity]

Did The Judge ask that?

A cite is require.  Otherwise I will remove this comment.

Judge - Were you diagnosed with a clinical depression?
Kate Healy (McCann) No. Depression is an over-diagnosed, over used term to diagnose those who feel a bit down, clinically I wasn't depressed.
Judge - There is a quote attributed to you - did you ever say that you wished you were in a coma so you wouldn't suffer?
Kate Healy (McCann) Yes.
Judge - Did that have to do with the disappearance of your child, or with the book and the documentary?
Kate Healy (McCann) Both were overwhelming, but it was intensified when the book was published.’


Yeah this bit. 

Thanks Faith

[jassi]

Did The Judge ask that?

A cite is require.  Otherwise I will remove this comment.

http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=4745.0  Post 3

[Eleanor]

Judge - Were you diagnosed with a clinical depression?
Kate Healy (McCann) No. Depression is an over-diagnosed, over used term to diagnose those who feel a bit down, clinically I wasn't depressed.
Judge - There is a quote attributed to you - did you ever say that you wished you were in a coma so you wouldn't suffer?
Kate Healy (McCann) Yes.
Judge - Did that have to do with the disappearance of your child, or with the book and the documentary?
Kate Healy (McCann) Both were overwhelming, but it was intensified when the book was published.’


Yeah this bit. 

Thanks Faith

As I said.  Twisted.  But never mind.  You do yourself no favours.

[Eleanor]

Do you mean someone who has experienced the vagaries of life?

Haven't we all? Mais perhaps not.  I don't know. I have never been the best of parents.  But then I never knew what that was supposed to be, since no one ever taught me.


Teach them kindness and how to stand on their own two feet.  That was about it.  And I can't say that my children have failed me.

Just try to be kind.

[Venturi Swirl]

What, being a little bit sad? Her daughter had been allegedly abducted. I’d be surprised if she wasn’t ‘a little bit sad’.

Where does Kate say she was “a little bit sad”? 

[Venturi Swirl]

As I recall, they claimed damages for all the family, but for different reasons. In the case of the parents the damages were to compensate them for their pain, suffering and emotional distress. They felt;

"totally destroyed, depressed, feeling ashamed and experiencing a deep malaise because they are considered as having responsibility in the disappearance of their daughter and as coward people who have hidden her body, simulating a kidnapping."

That claim wasn't proved, but this was;

"Because of the statements made by defendant Gonçalo Amaral in the book, in the documentary and in the interview to Correio da Manhã, authors Kate McCann and Gerald McCann suffer permanent anguish, insomnia, lack of appetite, anxiety and irritability, preoccupation and indefinable fear."

With a caveat;

"The judge adds that this psychological state is predates the book launch, the documentary and the interview and was not caused by them. Nonetheless, it is not unreasonable to believe that the book, the documentary and the interview had an effect on the couple, i.e. It had an effect but that is to be expected."

The judge seems to be saying that they did feel that way, but the feelings weren't caused by the book, the documentary or the interview.

What does “it (the book, the documentary and thr interview) had an effect (on the couple) but that is to be expected” mean then?

[Venturi Swirl]

FAO of those who are ignorant about depression:
What is the difference between depression and clinical depression?
In   Mental Health,   Depression and Bipolar Disorder,   Health   

they are very much the same. but clinical depression is the term to express persistant depression that needs ongoing treatment.

What is clinical depression?
Clinical Depression . Clinical depression (also called major depressive disorder , or unipolar depression when compared to bipolar disorder) is a state of intense sadness, melancholia or despair that has advanced to the point of being disruptive to an individual's social functioning and/or activities of daily living.. Although a low mood or state of dejection that does not affect functioning is often colloquially referred to as depression,clinical depression is a clinical diagnosis and may be different fromthe everyday meaning of "being depressed." Many people identify thefeeling of being clinically depressed as "feeling sad for no reason",or "having no motivation to do anything." A person suffering fromdepression may feel tired, sad, irritable, lazy, unmotivated, and apathetic.Clinical depression is generally acknowledged to be more serious thannormal depressed feelings. It often leads to constant negative thinkingand sometimes substance abuse. Extreme depression can culminate in its sufferers attempting or committing suicide. 1 . 1. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clinical_depression .

[faithlilly]

You said ‘people who are depressed. Kate specifically told the judge she was not depressed.

[faithlilly]

FAO of those who are ignorant about depression:
What is the difference between depression and clinical depression?
In   Mental Health,   Depression and Bipolar Disorder,   Health   

they are very much the same. but clinical depression is the term to express persistant depression that needs ongoing treatment.

What is clinical depression?
Clinical Depression . Clinical depression (also called major depressive disorder , or unipolar depression when compared to bipolar disorder) is a state of intense sadness, melancholia or despair that has advanced to the point of being disruptive to an individual's social functioning and/or activities of daily living.. Although a low mood or state of dejection that does not affect functioning is often colloquially referred to as depression,clinical depression is a clinical diagnosis and may be different fromthe everyday meaning of "being depressed." Many people identify thefeeling of being clinically depressed as "feeling sad for no reason",or "having no motivation to do anything." A person suffering fromdepression may feel tired, sad, irritable, lazy, unmotivated, and apathetic.Clinical depression is generally acknowledged to be more serious thannormal depressed feelings. It often leads to constant negative thinkingand sometimes substance abuse. Extreme depression can culminate in its sufferers attempting or committing suicide. 1 . 1. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clinical_depression .

Judge - Were you diagnosed with a clinical depression?
Kate Healy (McCann) No. Depression is an over-diagnosed, over used term to diagnose those who feel a bit down, clinically I wasn't depressed.

[Mr Gray]

Judge - Were you diagnosed with a clinical depression?
Kate Healy (McCann) No. Depression is an over-diagnosed, over used term to diagnose those who feel a bit down, clinically I wasn't depressed.

kate was asked a specific question...was she clinically depressed. Being a doctor...unlike you....she understood the question and gave the correct answer...there is a difference between clinical depression and situational depression...try google