McCanns appeal to the European Court of Human Rights

[Mr Gray]

20 years in the case of "The McLibel Trial".

yes its a disgrace isnt it

[Venturi Swirl]

All in the above.

So Murat hasn’t been cleared then?

[Alice Purjorick]

yes its a disgrace isnt it

Ten years of the ECtHR faffing about didn't help.
It could have been worse. A fraud case in India went on for ca 40 years, IIRC, only to be tossed out when the last living witness turned his toes up.

[G-Unit]

its a pity the appeal to the ECHR takes so long...its a pity justice takes so long

I'd be careful what you wish for if I were you. Litigation is always risky and the outcome can be disappointing.

[Mr Gray]

I'd be careful what you wish for if I were you. Litigation is always risky and the outcome can be disappointing.

are you under the impresion im considering litigation,,,,what gives you that idea

[Carana]

What they printed were personal attacks on his character;

“Robert Murat is a predator who visits sites containing sexual violence”
http://theportugalnews.com/news/robert-murat-wins-slander-case-as-kate-mccann-visits-luz/28371

Yes, I know. After a year of merciless attack, he was only awarded €10k - and that only on appeal. I'm not sure who leaked in that instance, the "witness" in question (whom Murat successfully sued) or whether it was that naughty fan again.

His family was also hounded in the UK.

He did get a substantially bigger award from the UK media.

[Carana]

Ten years of the ECtHR faffing about didn't help.
It could have been worse. A fraud case in India went on for ca 40 years, IIRC, only to be tossed out when the last living witness turned his toes up.

Yeah, not sure how many of us will be around in 2118...

[Carana]

What they printed were personal attacks on his character;

“Robert Murat is a predator who visits sites containing sexual violence”
http://theportugalnews.com/news/robert-murat-wins-slander-case-as-kate-mccann-visits-luz/28371

The nature of the attacks were different, but some of the allegations against him were also of a criminal nature.as well.

What's the difference?

Does it all really hinge on that reconstruction?

[Robittybob1]

The nature of the attacks were different, but some of the allegations against him were also of a criminal nature.as well.

What's the difference?

Does it all really hinge on that reconstruction?

Could they all agree to do a reconstruction now and put it behind them?

[misty]

Yes, I know. After a year of merciless attack, he was only awarded €10k - and that only on appeal. I'm not sure who leaked in that instance, the "witness" in question (whom Murat successfully sued) or whether it was that naughty fan again.

His family was also hounded in the UK.

He did get a substantially bigger award from the UK media.

I note that the court did not apparently say the published allegations against RM were untrue, merely that they were not in the public interest & an infringement of his rights.

[Carana]

I note that the court did not apparently say the published allegations against RM were untrue, merely that they were not in the public interest & an infringement of his rights.

That seems to be a difference in that system - whether what is said is true or not doesn't appear to matter; what does is the damange caused by what is said.

I was going to post an extract from something to that effect the other day and promptly lost it.

IIRC, he also sued the so-called witness and won. At least one of those allegations defies the imagination. Well mine, anyway. lol

[misty]

That seems to be a difference in that system - whether what is said is true or not doesn't appear to matter; what does is the damange caused by what is said.

I was going to post an extract from something to that effect the other day and promptly lost it.

IIRC, he also sued the so-called witness and won. At least one of those allegations defies the imagination. Well mine, anyway. lol

I wonder what happened in the cases he brought against other Portuguese media outlets?

http://www.gerrymccannsblogs.co.uk/Nigel/id218.htm


The lawyer tells how the PJ's attitude changed Publico

by Idalio Revez
05 March 2010
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Concerning the British media, his position is very critical: "The press was biased. The news was broken in the following way: "This man is guilty, we have already caught him and it was even us who turned him over to the police"," he says, alluding to the journalist who said she had noted "strange" signs in Murat during his contact with the media. But there is a difference in the way that these cases are handled in Portugal and in England. The lawsuits that were filed against the British press were swiftly settled with a "deal" concerning the amount of the compensation. In our country, "there is no evolution" concerning the five lawsuits that have been filed almost one year ago.

"The sensationalist newspapers are sensationalist by nature. The others just did their job," he says.



and https://joana-morais.blogspot.com/2009/05/robert-murat-sues-jornal-do-barlavento.html

Robert Murat, an arguido that was cleared in the Maddie case stated that he is to start judicial proceedings over defamation against Portuguese media. He claims compensation amounting 140 thousand euros.

Articles and contents that were allegedly published and broadcast by Jornal do Barlavento, Jornal de Notícias and TVI are at stake.


source: Diário de Notícias, 22.05.2009

[Robittybob1]

dog days are here!

[jassi]

Could they all agree to do a reconstruction now and put it behind them?

Bit late in the day I'd have thought. There was enough difficulty in remembering things clearly just a year later

[Robittybob1]

Bit late in the day I'd have thought. There was enough difficulty in remembering things clearly just a year later

Allow a week to sort things out.  I can't see how a full reconstruction of the events could be re-enacted in just one night.