Author Topic: McCanns appeal to the European Court of Human Rights  (Read 530762 times)

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Offline carlymichelle

Re: McCanns appeal to the European Court of Human Rights
« Reply #1920 on: July 01, 2018, 02:53:55 PM »
So obviously it never got past the first hurdle, that's what rejected without being examined means.

he will cling to his beliefs forever we know that 8)-)))

Offline Mr Gray

Re: McCanns appeal to the European Court of Human Rights
« Reply #1921 on: July 01, 2018, 04:18:38 PM »
So obviously it never got past the first hurdle, that's what rejected without being examined means.

If that's your opinion... But what is your opinion worth

How much  do you know about the admission criteria... Tell us on what grounds you think it was, rejected... I really doubt you have a clue
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Offline slartibartfast

Re: McCanns appeal to the European Court of Human Rights
« Reply #1922 on: July 01, 2018, 05:19:12 PM »
There is no notice of rejection...The case will not even have begun to be looked at yet

That is evidence it wasn’t submitted....
“Reasoning will never make a Man correct an ill Opinion, which by Reasoning he never acquired”.

Offline Mr Gray

Re: McCanns appeal to the European Court of Human Rights
« Reply #1923 on: July 01, 2018, 05:32:34 PM »
That is evidence it wasn’t submitted....

never said it wasnt....very weak evidence.......evidence in support of something does not mean it happened..

I do think its a diversion to continually ask for evidence when regular posters on the forum know what evidence exists......I would say its almost certain an application has been made...I would be very surprised if it hadnt...and having looked at the admission criteria I would also be very surprised if it was rejected

Offline Angelo222

Re: McCanns appeal to the European Court of Human Rights
« Reply #1924 on: July 01, 2018, 07:59:29 PM »
The ECHR according to the opening post confirmed as long ago as September 2017 that an application had been made and since it is still not recorded in the register it must be assumed that it was rejected.  The only other explanation that I can see is that the register is defunct and does not reflect the true situation. If the application had been accepted it would have moved to the second phase by now and doesn't appear to have happened.
« Last Edit: July 01, 2018, 08:05:08 PM by Angelo222 »
De troothe has the annoying habit of coming to the surface just when you least expect it!!

Je ne regrette rien!!

Offline Mr Gray

Re: McCanns appeal to the European Court of Human Rights
« Reply #1925 on: July 01, 2018, 08:09:15 PM »
The ECHR according to the opening post confirmed as long ago as September 2017 that an application had been made and since it is still not recorded in the register it must be assumed that it was rejected.  The only other explanation that I can see is that the register is defunct and does not reflect the true situation. If the application had been accepted it would have moved to the second phase by now and doesn't appear to have happened.

That's your opinion... Nothing more... Again... On what grounds might it be rejected... Are you aware of the grounds for rejection... Based on your posts, I think not

What's the second phase by the way... And how many phases, are there
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Offline Venturi Swirl

Re: McCanns appeal to the European Court of Human Rights
« Reply #1926 on: July 02, 2018, 07:52:49 AM »
So obviously it never got past the first hurdle, that's what rejected without being examined means.
Why would the case be rejected by the ECHR without even being examined?
"Surely the fact that their accounts were different reinforces their veracity rather than diminishes it? If they had colluded in protecting ........ surely all of their accounts would be the same?" - Faithlilly

Offline kizzy

Re: McCanns appeal to the European Court of Human Rights
« Reply #1927 on: July 02, 2018, 08:40:38 AM »
Why would the case be rejected by the ECHR without even being examined?


Probably because the mccanns don't qualify.

A case will only be successful if:

There has been a violation of a human right
The application form has been filled in correctly
The applicant is a ‘victim’
The applicant has exhausted all domestic remedies available




lets face it the only violation of rights - were maddies imo.

Offline Mr Gray

Re: McCanns appeal to the European Court of Human Rights
« Reply #1928 on: July 02, 2018, 09:02:34 AM »

Probably because the mccanns don't qualify.

A case will only be successful if:

There has been a violation of a human right
The application form has been filled in correctly
The applicant is a ‘victim’
The applicant has exhausted all domestic remedies available




lets face it the only violation of rights - were maddies imo.
It's a bit more complex but at least you've made an attempt to answer... Article 8 as I've explained with cites

Offline slartibartfast

Re: McCanns appeal to the European Court of Human Rights
« Reply #1929 on: July 02, 2018, 09:07:02 AM »
It's a bit more complex but at least you've made an attempt to answer... Article 8 as I've explained with cites

Article 10 back at you.
“Reasoning will never make a Man correct an ill Opinion, which by Reasoning he never acquired”.

Offline Mr Gray

Re: McCanns appeal to the European Court of Human Rights
« Reply #1930 on: July 02, 2018, 09:19:05 AM »
Article 10 back at you.

Read the judgements I've posted... 10 does not gine the right to defame

Offline Venturi Swirl

Re: McCanns appeal to the European Court of Human Rights
« Reply #1931 on: July 02, 2018, 09:20:51 AM »

Probably because the mccanns don't qualify.

A case will only be successful if:

There has been a violation of a human right
The application form has been filled in correctly
The applicant is a ‘victim’
The applicant has exhausted all domestic remedies available




lets face it the only violation of rights - were maddies imo.
You’d still have to examine the case before deciding it didn’t comply with one of the criteria you’ve mentioned don’t you agree?
"Surely the fact that their accounts were different reinforces their veracity rather than diminishes it? If they had colluded in protecting ........ surely all of their accounts would be the same?" - Faithlilly

Offline slartibartfast

Re: McCanns appeal to the European Court of Human Rights
« Reply #1932 on: July 02, 2018, 09:39:19 AM »
Read the judgements I've posted... 10 does not gine the right to defame

It gives the right to say what happened in the investigation and what the opinions of the policeman involved were.
“Reasoning will never make a Man correct an ill Opinion, which by Reasoning he never acquired”.

Offline Mr Gray

Re: McCanns appeal to the European Court of Human Rights
« Reply #1933 on: July 02, 2018, 10:12:58 AM »
It gives the right to say what happened in the investigation and what the opinions of the policeman involved were.

Amaral said more than was in the files... He has no right to defame the McCann's as my quoted cases show.. Imo

Nowhere in the files does it, state proof of death in the, apartment

Offline Mr Gray

Re: McCanns appeal to the European Court of Human Rights
« Reply #1934 on: July 02, 2018, 10:14:39 AM »
It gives the right to say what happened in the investigation and what the opinions of the policeman involved were.

In your opinion... It's up to the ECHR