Author Topic: McCanns appeal to the European Court of Human Rights  (Read 530776 times)

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Offline Snowgirl

Re: McCanns appeal to the European Court of Human Rights
« Reply #2340 on: October 02, 2018, 05:25:39 PM »
Yes... The dogs purpose is to find evidence.... That's, what Grime says he trains then for.. You seem to have made the same mistake ad amaral... Attaching too much importance  to the alerts
Odd don't  you think  that the dogs only showed an interest in 5a ,none of the other apartments?

Offline Eleanor

Re: McCanns appeal to the European Court of Human Rights
« Reply #2341 on: October 02, 2018, 05:31:38 PM »
Odd don't  you think  that the dogs only showed an interest in 5a ,none of the other apartments?

Chance might have been a fine thing.

Offline Mr Gray

Re: McCanns appeal to the European Court of Human Rights
« Reply #2342 on: October 02, 2018, 05:35:46 PM »
Odd don't  you think  that the dogs only showed an interest in 5a ,none of the other apartments?

No... I've explained exactly why before

Offline Snowgirl

Re: McCanns appeal to the European Court of Human Rights
« Reply #2343 on: October 02, 2018, 05:42:15 PM »
No... I've explained exactly why before
Perhaps before I became a member ?

Offline Eleanor

Re: McCanns appeal to the European Court of Human Rights
« Reply #2344 on: October 02, 2018, 05:45:40 PM »
Perhaps before I became a member ?

There is a search facility.

Offline ShiningInLuz

Re: McCanns appeal to the European Court of Human Rights
« Reply #2345 on: October 02, 2018, 06:05:26 PM »
There is a search facility.
And what should Snowgirl search for?
What's up, old man?

Offline Mr Gray

Re: McCanns appeal to the European Court of Human Rights
« Reply #2346 on: October 02, 2018, 06:07:36 PM »
And what should Snowgirl search for?

Snowgirl doesn't have to search... She can ask me... Haven't you ever seen the explanation... Supplied by the PJ

Offline ShiningInLuz

Re: McCanns appeal to the European Court of Human Rights
« Reply #2347 on: October 02, 2018, 06:14:56 PM »
Snowgirl doesn't have to search... She can ask me... Haven't you ever seen the explanation... Supplied by the PJ
You chose not to explain it earlier.
What's up, old man?

Offline Mr Gray

Re: McCanns appeal to the European Court of Human Rights
« Reply #2348 on: October 02, 2018, 06:22:31 PM »
You chose not to explain it earlier.

Cite... I didnt

Offline Alice Purjorick

Re: McCanns appeal to the European Court of Human Rights
« Reply #2349 on: October 02, 2018, 06:24:31 PM »
But not afforded to the McCanns.. Have you read the application to annul the SC judgement
1) How do you figure that out?
2) Yes!. Well that which is bandied about on that tinternet.

"Navigating the difference between weird but normal grief and truly suspicious behaviour is the key for any detective worth his salt.". ….Sarah Bailey

Offline Mr Gray

Re: McCanns appeal to the European Court of Human Rights
« Reply #2350 on: October 02, 2018, 06:26:24 PM »
1) How do you figure that out?
2) Yes!. Well that which is bandied about on that tinternet.

Have you read the answer to the appeal to annul the SC verdict... It's there... English translation with the original Portuguese

Offline Alice Purjorick

Re: McCanns appeal to the European Court of Human Rights
« Reply #2351 on: October 02, 2018, 06:26:46 PM »
According to the McCann's lawyers an archiving under 277/1 equals a legally binding declaration of innocence. Not only that, it's res judicata (a case in which there has been a final judgment and is no longer subject to appeal). So the police and the prosecutors declared them innocent according to their lawyers.

Article 277 - Archiving of the investigation

1 - The Public Ministry shall, by dispatch, close the investigation, as soon as it has gathered sufficient evidence that the crime was not confirmed, that the arguido did not practice it in any way or that the procedure is legally inadmissible.....

As far as the appellants are aware of, the archiving at stake was carried out, in the course of the investigation, because sufficient proof had been gathered that the then arguidos did not commit any facts of a criminal relevance...

That is to say, therefore, that the filing order uttered according to article 277-1 of the CPP, after the deadline of article 278 (10) of the same legal compendium, is res judicata and is only subject to review according to the terms of articles 279 and 449-2 of the CPP.
http://www.gerrymccannsblogs.co.uk/Annulment_request.htm

"Res judicata" it most certainly was not/ is not.
"Navigating the difference between weird but normal grief and truly suspicious behaviour is the key for any detective worth his salt.". ….Sarah Bailey

Offline Mr Gray

Re: McCanns appeal to the European Court of Human Rights
« Reply #2352 on: October 02, 2018, 06:29:14 PM »
"Res judicata" it most certainly was not/ is not.

And the McCanns never claimed it was a legally binding declaration of innocens as gunit has claimed

Offline Mr Gray

Re: McCanns appeal to the European Court of Human Rights
« Reply #2353 on: October 02, 2018, 06:53:41 PM »
According to the McCann's lawyers an archiving under 277/1 equals a legally binding declaration of innocence. Not only that, it's res judicata (a case in which there has been a final judgment and is no longer subject to appeal). So the police and the prosecutors declared them innocent according to their lawyers.

Article 277 - Archiving of the investigation

1 - The Public Ministry shall, by dispatch, close the investigation, as soon as it has gathered sufficient evidence that the crime was not confirmed, that the arguido did not practice it in any way or that the procedure is legally inadmissible.....

As far as the appellants are aware of, the archiving at stake was carried out, in the course of the investigation, because sufficient proof had been gathered that the then arguidos did not commit any facts of a criminal relevance...

That is to say, therefore, that the filing order uttered according to article 277-1 of the CPP, after the deadline of article 278 (10) of the same legal compendium, is res judicata and is only subject to review according to the terms of articles 279 and 449-2 of the CPP.
http://www.gerrymccannsblogs.co.uk/Annulment_request.htm

Did the McCanns lawyers, actually use this term... Res judicata... Do you have a cite... Or was it another paraphrase by Anne

Offline Alice Purjorick

Re: McCanns appeal to the European Court of Human Rights
« Reply #2354 on: October 02, 2018, 07:23:59 PM »
Did the McCanns lawyers, actually use this term... Res judicata... Do you have a cite... Or was it another paraphrase by Anne

I love the idea of "res judicata" being a paraphrase. [no suitable emoji is available]
"Navigating the difference between weird but normal grief and truly suspicious behaviour is the key for any detective worth his salt.". ….Sarah Bailey