McCanns appeal to the European Court of Human Rights

[Mr Gray]

I would be interested to see a case where a lawyer has succeeded in having a judgement overturned.

Brietta has quoted a case in Portugal where it seems this is happening.... So again... Sigh... What happens to someone who appeals to the ECHR to prevent deportation.... According to you he will be, deported anyway... Which is plainly absurd

[Mr Gray]

I would be interested to see a case where a lawyer has succeeded in having a judgement overturned.

 convention of human rights.

• In 2010 Aso Mohammed Ibrahim, a Kurdish asylum seeker who caused the death of a 12 year girl in a driving accident, avoided deportation. Tabloid papers seized upon the fact that he had claimed the right to a family life, enshrined in article 8 of the convention, to avoid deportation at an immigration tribunal.

The prime minister remarked of the case: “My personal response is one of great anger that this is allowed to happen. Here we have an Iraqi asylum seeker convicted of an offence that led to the death of a child and yet we are being told that there is no way that this person can be deported to Iraq

[xtina]

Brietta has quoted a case in Portugal where it seems this is happening.... So again... Sigh... What happens to someone who appeals to the ECHR to prevent deportation.... According to you he will be, deported anyway... Which is plainly absurd

I think you should wait to see if the mccs get accepted first...

Up to now, they haven't......

It may have already been refused,.... you don't know

Seems silly ...always jumping the gun ....as if you know everything

When in fact you are just the same as everyone else ...know nothing for definite....

[Mr Gray]

I think you should wait to see if the mccs get accepted first...

Up to now, they haven't......

It may have already been refused,.... you don't know

Seems silly ...always jumping the gun ....as if you know everything

When in fact you are just the same as everyone else ...know nothing for definite....

I'm pointing out that the, SC judgement  may not be final at all.. If it isn't then the case could affect, amaral....

[Sunny]

I'm pointing out that the, SC judgement  may not be final at all.. If it isn't then the case could affect, amaral....

Do we have any evidence of the ECHR overturning a SC judgement in a civil case, not a criminal one.

[xtina]

I'm pointing out that the, SC judgement  may not be final at all.. If it isn't then the case could affect, amaral....

I'm pointing out SC judgment...maybe final after all.......

If... appeal to ECHR...has  been rejected....

[Mr Gray]

Do we have any evidence of the ECHR overturning a SC judgement in a civil case, not a criminal one.

According to the ECHR website rules, apply to civil and criminal cases... I presume Charlie, Gard was a civil case
The point I am making is the SC judgement may not be final as posters thought

[Mr Gray]

I'm pointing out SC judgment...maybe final after all.......

If... appeal to ECHR...has  been rejected....

So it may... Or may not be final
So it may.. Or may not affect amaral

[John]

I am reviewing everything that was posted yesterday following several complaints. Inappropriate posting of any sort will not be tolerated and especially so given the number of warnings that have a already been given. Sanctions and/or suspensions could well follow.

Members are free to make representation in defence of themselves or others.

[G-Unit]

convention of human rights.

• In 2010 Aso Mohammed Ibrahim, a Kurdish asylum seeker who caused the death of a 12 year girl in a driving accident, avoided deportation. Tabloid papers seized upon the fact that he had claimed the right to a family life, enshrined in article 8 of the convention, to avoid deportation at an immigration tribunal.

The prime minister remarked of the case: “My personal response is one of great anger that this is allowed to happen. Here we have an Iraqi asylum seeker convicted of an offence that led to the death of a child and yet we are being told that there is no way that this person can be deported to Iraq

You provide no cite for your post. Perhaps because it was solely the UK authorities who were involved, not the ECHR. It was the Second Tier Immigration and Asylum Tribunal which refused the UK Border Agency's request that he be deported.
https://www.theguardian.com/uk/2010/dec/16/iraqi-killed-girl-remain-uk

[G-Unit]

Brietta has quoted a case in Portugal where it seems this is happening.... So again... Sigh... What happens to someone who appeals to the ECHR to prevent deportation.... According to you he will be, deported anyway... Which is plainly absurd

The lawyer has declared his intention to request a review of the decision. We don't know whether that request has been submitted or what the response was if it has. Until we do it doesn't amount to evidence of anything.

[Mr Gray]

The lawyer has declared his intention to request a review of the decision. We don't know whether that request has been submitted or what the response was if it has. Until we do it doesn't amount to evidence of anything.

The fact that the lawyer has, declared an intention for a, review is evidence if not proof that a review of the original judgement is, a possibility ....which shows it may not be final

[Mr Gray]

You provide no cite for your post. Perhaps because it was solely the UK authorities who were involved, not the ECHR. It was the Second Tier Immigration and Asylum Tribunal which refused the UK Border Agency's request that he be deported.
https://www.theguardian.com/uk/2010/dec/16/iraqi-killed-girl-remain-uk

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/law-and-order/9239417/European-Court-of-Human-Rights-blocks-more-deportations-from-UK-than-any-other-country.html

[G-Unit]

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/law-and-order/9239417/European-Court-of-Human-Rights-blocks-more-deportations-from-UK-than-any-other-country.html

Thank you for the cite, but I can see no reference to Aso Mohammed Ibrahim.

[Mr Gray]

Thank you for the cite, but I can see no reference to Aso Mohammed Ibrahim.

No... There isn't.. I'm busy and posting in a hurry.
It certainly seems that judgements can be reviewed and changed... Amaral is not out of the woods yet