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Offline Mr Gray

Re: McCanns appeal to the European Court of Human Rights
« Reply #2580 on: October 23, 2018, 01:33:29 PM »
But didn't apply to have a Supreme Court ruing overturned. Probably because the case never reached the Supreme Court;

Permission to appeal was refused on the grounds that there was no arguable point of law
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charlie_Gard_case#Legal_proceedings


The European court of human rights has rejected an appeal by the parents of a critically ill baby that he should be allowed to undergo experimental treatment in the US.

The decision by the Strasbourg court closes off the last legal avenue of appeal for the family of Charlie Gard and follows a similar ruling by the UK’s supreme court.

The judgment also lifts a court order under which doctors at Great Ormond Street hospital in London had been required to maintain life support treatment for the 10-month-old child who has brain damage and a rare genetic condition.

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/law/2017/jun/27/charlie-gard-european-court-rejects-plea-to-intervene-in-life-support-fight.



Offline G-Unit

Re: McCanns appeal to the European Court of Human Rights
« Reply #2581 on: October 23, 2018, 01:58:48 PM »

The European court of human rights has rejected an appeal by the parents of a critically ill baby that he should be allowed to undergo experimental treatment in the US.

The decision by the Strasbourg court closes off the last legal avenue of appeal for the family of Charlie Gard and follows a similar ruling by the UK’s supreme court.

The judgment also lifts a court order under which doctors at Great Ormond Street hospital in London had been required to maintain life support treatment for the 10-month-old child who has brain damage and a rare genetic condition.

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/law/2017/jun/27/charlie-gard-european-court-rejects-plea-to-intervene-in-life-support-fight.

This case took place in the High Court. Therefore the parents never applied to overturn a ruling by the Supreme Court. They asked permission to appeal to the SC which was refused. They then applied to the ECHR and an Interim Order was issued which the SC ratified, telling the High Court to wait for the ECHR decision. That decision was that they had nothing to add. The Interim Order was lifted and the decision of the High Court then went ahead.
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: McCanns appeal to the European Court of Human Rights
« Reply #2582 on: October 23, 2018, 02:18:27 PM »
This case took place in the High Court. Therefore the parents never applied to overturn a ruling by the Supreme Court. They asked permission to appeal to the SC which was refused. They then applied to the ECHR and an Interim Order was issued which the SC ratified, telling the High Court to wait for the ECHR decision. That decision was that they had nothing to add. The Interim Order was lifted and the decision of the High Court then went ahead.

I think that has already been established... What hasn't... Is why they went to the ECHR... It's obvious to me.... To overturn the SC decision and take Charlie to the, US

Offline G-Unit

Re: McCanns appeal to the European Court of Human Rights
« Reply #2583 on: October 23, 2018, 02:25:03 PM »
I think that has already been established... What hasn't... Is why they went to the ECHR... It's obvious to me.... To overturn the SC decision and take Charlie to the, US

The SC wasn't preventing them, the High Court was. You are clearly unable to cite any case where someone has tried, let alone succeeded  in having a Supreme Court decision overturned, so you might want to stop your pathetic (imo) attempts now.
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: McCanns appeal to the European Court of Human Rights
« Reply #2584 on: October 23, 2018, 02:43:07 PM »
The SC wasn't preventing them, the High Court was. You are clearly unable to cite any case where someone has tried, let alone succeeded  in having a Supreme Court decision overturned, so you might want to stop your pathetic (imo) attempts now.

You still have not been able to come up with a, reason why Charlie's, parents, applied to the ECHR.. You either don't understand  IR are in denial.. Imo

Offline ShiningInLuz

Re: McCanns appeal to the European Court of Human Rights
« Reply #2585 on: October 23, 2018, 02:48:27 PM »
You still have not been able to come up with a, reason why Charlie's, parents, applied to the ECHR.. You either don't understand  IR are in denial.. Imo
Desperation?

Possibly a bit like the McCanns?
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: McCanns appeal to the European Court of Human Rights
« Reply #2586 on: October 23, 2018, 02:58:08 PM »
Desperation?

Possibly a bit like the McCanns?

Desperation is not a, reason... Try again

Offline Snowgirl

Re: McCanns appeal to the European Court of Human Rights
« Reply #2587 on: October 23, 2018, 03:02:41 PM »
You still have not been able to come up with a, reason why Charlie's, parents, applied to the ECHR.. You either don't understand  IR are in denial.. Imo
They were clutching at straws, not understanding what the ECHR could or could not do ,     not thinking through  the best interests of Charlie imo.

Offline slartibartfast

Re: McCanns appeal to the European Court of Human Rights
« Reply #2588 on: October 23, 2018, 03:04:41 PM »
Desperation is not a, reason... Try again

Of course it is a reason, they were clutching at straws as would most parents.
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: McCanns appeal to the European Court of Human Rights
« Reply #2589 on: October 23, 2018, 03:19:01 PM »
It was the lawyers, who made the, application.... So perhaps, they did not understand  the law

Offline Snowgirl

Re: McCanns appeal to the European Court of Human Rights
« Reply #2590 on: October 23, 2018, 03:38:30 PM »
It was the lawyers, who made the, application.... So perhaps, they did not understand  the law
You asked why did Charlie's  parents  apply  ? Now you  question  the lawyers for not understanding the law   tantamount to blaming them ?
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Offline Sunny

Re: McCanns appeal to the European Court of Human Rights
« Reply #2591 on: October 23, 2018, 03:41:52 PM »
It was the lawyers, who made the, application.... So perhaps, they did not understand  the law

Or perhaps the lawyers rubbed their hands with glee at some more money, regardless of whether they thought the case was possible to win or not.   
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: McCanns appeal to the European Court of Human Rights
« Reply #2592 on: October 23, 2018, 03:57:04 PM »
Or perhaps the lawyers rubbed their hands with glee at some more money, regardless of whether they thought the case was possible to win or not.

Do you really think I was really suggesting the lawyers didn't understand  the law

Offline Alice Purjorick

Re: McCanns appeal to the European Court of Human Rights
« Reply #2593 on: October 23, 2018, 04:00:21 PM »
It was the lawyers, who made the, application.... So perhaps, they did not understand  the law

There is no excuse for that seeing as how the ECHR publish a document entitled "Questions and Answers For Lawyers".
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Offline Alice Purjorick

Re: McCanns appeal to the European Court of Human Rights
« Reply #2594 on: October 23, 2018, 04:02:12 PM »
Can anyone tell me what the Charly Gard case has to do with the McCann application?
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