Author Topic: McCanns appeal to the European Court of Human Rights  (Read 530774 times)

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Offline Robittybob1

Re: McCanns appeal to the European Court of Human Rights
« Reply #4035 on: February 11, 2021, 05:33:26 PM »
I have received a warning for libel - could a mod kindly tell me who I have libelled please?  If I don't know who or how I have libelled I am liable to libel again.  Many thanks for your co-operation.
You must have libelled the McCanns.
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Offline Venturi Swirl

Re: McCanns appeal to the European Court of Human Rights
« Reply #4036 on: February 11, 2021, 05:34:28 PM »
You must have libelled the McCanns.
No, I’ve just told you who I allegedly libelled (by making a factual statement).
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Offline G-Unit

Re: McCanns appeal to the European Court of Human Rights
« Reply #4037 on: February 11, 2021, 05:40:17 PM »
Is that stipulated in the ECHR rules, i.e "once you retire you can defame your previous suspects"?   Who told him that?

As a serving PJ officer there were restrictions on Amaral's freedom of expression. Nothing to do with defamation, obviously. Not being as daft as people think, he knew that, which is why he resigned.

The judge of the first instance argued that his freedom of speech was still restricted, and used that argument to weight the balance between the competing rights in favour of the McCanns, but the appeal court disagreed.
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Offline Eleanor

Re: McCanns appeal to the European Court of Human Rights
« Reply #4038 on: February 11, 2021, 05:40:55 PM »
Amaral requested early retirement so that he could publish a book that he knew would probably make him lots of money.  Apparently it is libellous to say so though - it’s a 15% warning transgression.

But his book did make him lots of money.

Offline Mr Gray

Re: McCanns appeal to the European Court of Human Rights
« Reply #4039 on: February 11, 2021, 05:42:30 PM »
As a serving PJ officer there were restrictions on Amaral's freedom of expression. Nothing to do with defamation, obviously. Not being as daft as people think, he knew that, which is why he resigned.

The judge of the first instance argued that his freedom of speech was still restricted, and used that argument to weight the balance between the competing rights in favour of the McCanns, but the appeal court disagreed.

What competing rights would that be...the McCanns right to  agood name.If amaral had not libelled them as you have claimed...what rights are you talking about

Offline Robittybob1

Re: McCanns appeal to the European Court of Human Rights
« Reply #4040 on: February 11, 2021, 05:44:10 PM »
No, I’ve just told you who I allegedly libelled (by making a factual statement).
You're obviously not a retired Portuguese police officer, or you'd have gotten away with it.

As a serving PJ officer there were restrictions on Amaral's freedom of expression. Nothing to do with defamation, obviously. Not being as daft as people think, he knew that, which is why he resigned.

The judge of the first instance argued that his freedom of speech was still restricted, and used that argument to weight the balance between the competing rights in favour of the McCanns, but the appeal court disagreed.
And hopefully the ECHR sees it differently.  It should not matter whether the person is retired or not. 
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Offline Venturi Swirl

Re: McCanns appeal to the European Court of Human Rights
« Reply #4041 on: February 11, 2021, 05:45:25 PM »
But his book did make him lots of money.
I know, so it is true to say that he resigned in order to cash in on the case IMO.  But you mustn’t actually say so because you’ll get punished.
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: McCanns appeal to the European Court of Human Rights
« Reply #4042 on: February 11, 2021, 05:48:47 PM »
I'm quite sure the McCanns were upset by the book. They thought the final report said they were innocent, then a book which suggests they weren't becomes a best seller in Portugal and sells well in other countries too. The nightmare wasn't over, it was continuing.

I wonder how upsetting it was when the Supreme Court judges disclosed that the final report didn't say they were innocent.

You obviously dont have a cite because as far as I know what you are saying isnt true. Could you therefore amend your post to show you are stating opinion not fact.
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Offline jassi

Re: McCanns appeal to the European Court of Human Rights
« Reply #4043 on: February 11, 2021, 05:51:40 PM »
But his book did make him lots of money.

Is that a problem ?
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

OG have been pushed out by the Germans who have reserved all the deck chairs for the foreseeable future

Offline Eleanor

Re: McCanns appeal to the European Court of Human Rights
« Reply #4044 on: February 11, 2021, 06:01:00 PM »
I know, so it is true to say that he resigned in order to cash in on the case.  But you mustn’t actually say so because you’ll get punished.

As I have already stated, Amaral asked The PJ for permission to publish his book while still working for them.  They refused, so he had to retire in order to cash in on the case.

Offline Eleanor

Re: McCanns appeal to the European Court of Human Rights
« Reply #4045 on: February 11, 2021, 06:03:03 PM »
Is that a problem ?

It could well be for Amaral.

Offline jassi

Re: McCanns appeal to the European Court of Human Rights
« Reply #4046 on: February 11, 2021, 06:06:42 PM »
It could well be for Amaral.

In what way?
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

OG have been pushed out by the Germans who have reserved all the deck chairs for the foreseeable future

Offline Eleanor

Re: McCanns appeal to the European Court of Human Rights
« Reply #4047 on: February 11, 2021, 06:08:28 PM »
In what way?

I would have thought that this was obvious.

Offline Robittybob1

Re: McCanns appeal to the European Court of Human Rights
« Reply #4048 on: February 11, 2021, 06:09:52 PM »
I would have thought that this was obvious.
Not to me, it's not, so I'm curious as to what you come up with.
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Offline jassi

Re: McCanns appeal to the European Court of Human Rights
« Reply #4049 on: February 11, 2021, 06:10:01 PM »
I would have thought that this was obvious.

Not to me. Please explain.
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

OG have been pushed out by the Germans who have reserved all the deck chairs for the foreseeable future