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Offline jassi

Re: McCanns appeal to the European Court of Human Rights
« Reply #4245 on: February 19, 2021, 10:25:39 AM »
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Offline G-Unit

Re: McCanns appeal to the European Court of Human Rights
« Reply #4246 on: February 19, 2021, 10:32:49 AM »
Quote from: Eleanor on February 19, 2021, 09:41:31 AM
Do they?  May we have a Cite for that.

The Court does not act as a court of appeal in relation to national
courts; it does not rehear cases, it cannot quash, vary or revise
their decisions.
Page 8 https://www.echr.coe.int/Documents/Questions_Answers_ENG.pdf
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Offline kizzy

Re: McCanns appeal to the European Court of Human Rights
« Reply #4247 on: February 19, 2021, 10:37:13 AM »
Quote from: Davel on February 18, 2021, 07:49:55 PM
So it looks exactly as I said it would. The balance between articles 8 and 10 and the presumption of innocence.. Article 6.
Last week gunit was arguing they couldn't question article 8 as she said it hadn't been raised in the first instance. I disagreed. Looks like my predicted understanding of the case was spot on

Article 8 also refers to the right to a good name.. Defamation

So had you already seen this D after all its been around since.  14/01/2021.

Or was it just coincidence you quoted this paragraph in earlier posts.?


Relying on Articles 6 §§ 1 and 2, 8 and 10 § 2 of the Convention, the applicants assert that the allegations made by GA in the book and the documentary in question infringed their right to respect for their private life and their right to the presumption of innocence. They complain that the domestic courts failed to weigh up the interests at stake in accordance with the criteria set out in the Court's case-law.

I do think IMO if there was anything significant to say it was going the mccs way the media would have been all over it .
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Offline Eleanor

Re: McCanns appeal to the European Court of Human Rights
« Reply #4248 on: February 19, 2021, 10:38:34 AM »
Quote from: G-Unit on February 19, 2021, 10:32:49 AM
The Court does not act as a court of appeal in relation to national
courts; it does not rehear cases, it cannot quash, vary or revise
their decisions.
Page 8 https://www.echr.coe.int/Documents/Questions_Answers_ENG.pdf

So why has nothing been done about The Costs before now?
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Offline jassi

Re: McCanns appeal to the European Court of Human Rights
« Reply #4249 on: February 19, 2021, 10:44:55 AM »
Quote from: Eleanor on February 19, 2021, 10:38:34 AM
So why has nothing been done about The Costs before now?

Apart from a report in the Tabloids, is there anything to support the notion that the McCanns haven't paid what is required of them?
Has their 'family pal' pronounced on the subject ?
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Offline Eleanor

Re: McCanns appeal to the European Court of Human Rights
« Reply #4250 on: February 19, 2021, 10:49:19 AM »
Quote from: jassi on February 19, 2021, 10:44:55 AM
Apart from a report in the Tabloids, is there anything to support the notion that the McCanns haven't paid what is required of them?
Has their 'family pal' pronounced on the subject ?

I presume No Cite is available for this opinion.
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Offline jassi

Re: McCanns appeal to the European Court of Human Rights
« Reply #4251 on: February 19, 2021, 10:52:46 AM »
Quote from: Eleanor on February 19, 2021, 10:49:19 AM
I presume No Cite is available for this opinion.

Since when does a question require a cite ?
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Offline Eleanor

Re: McCanns appeal to the European Court of Human Rights
« Reply #4252 on: February 19, 2021, 10:54:51 AM »
Quote from: jassi on February 19, 2021, 10:52:46 AM
Since when does a question require a cite ?

So you don't know if The McCanns have already paid.
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Offline jassi

Re: McCanns appeal to the European Court of Human Rights
« Reply #4253 on: February 19, 2021, 10:56:14 AM »
Quote from: Eleanor on February 19, 2021, 10:54:51 AM
So you don't know if The McCanns have already paid.

I wouldn't have asked the question if I did.
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I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

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Offline Eleanor

Re: McCanns appeal to the European Court of Human Rights
« Reply #4254 on: February 19, 2021, 11:00:24 AM »
Quote from: jassi on February 19, 2021, 10:56:14 AM
I wouldn't have asked the question if I did.

Do you know if they will have to pay if they win at The ECHR?
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Offline jassi

Re: McCanns appeal to the European Court of Human Rights
« Reply #4255 on: February 19, 2021, 11:06:06 AM »
Quote from: Eleanor on February 19, 2021, 11:00:24 AM
Do you know if they will have to pay if they win at The ECHR?

No idea what actually happens if they win.
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Offline Eleanor

Re: McCanns appeal to the European Court of Human Rights
« Reply #4256 on: February 19, 2021, 11:09:05 AM »
Quote from: jassi on February 19, 2021, 11:06:06 AM
No idea what actually happens if they win.

So nothing to contribute then.
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Offline Brietta

Re: McCanns appeal to the European Court of Human Rights
« Reply #4257 on: February 19, 2021, 11:13:16 AM »
I don't think Kate, Gerry and the family will be looking at this as more than a box ticking exercise that had to be done to restore the good name which was taken from them by Amaral and Portugal and to establish once and for all their right to the presumption of innocence.

Time has moved on and at long last it looks as though there will be some resolution for good or ill as to what  happened to Madeleine.  And with the passage of time the enormity of the great wrong perpetrated against this family has become more and more evident to those with eyes to see..

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"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline jassi

Re: McCanns appeal to the European Court of Human Rights
« Reply #4258 on: February 19, 2021, 11:14:23 AM »
Quote from: Eleanor on February 19, 2021, 11:09:05 AM
So nothing to contribute then.

Not at the moment.  I'll wait until the result is out, rather than trying to second guess the court decision.  8)--))
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I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

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Offline kizzy

Re: McCanns appeal to the European Court of Human Rights
« Reply #4259 on: February 19, 2021, 11:25:32 AM »
Quote from: Brietta on February 19, 2021, 11:13:16 AM
I don't think Kate, Gerry and the family will be looking at this as more than a box ticking exercise that had to be done to restore the good name which was taken from them by Amaral and Portugal and to establish once and for all their right to the presumption of innocence.

Time has moved on and at long last it looks as though there will be some resolution for good or ill as to what  happened to Madeleine.  And with the passage of time the enormity of the great wrong perpetrated against this family has become more and more evident to those with eyes to see..

I don't think Kate, Gerry and the family will be looking at this as more than a box ticking exercise that had to be done to restore the good name


IMO most of what they have done seems to be a box-ticking exercise to clear their good name IMO
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