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Offline Venturi Swirl

Re: McCanns appeal to the European Court of Human Rights
« Reply #4575 on: May 09, 2022, 07:08:33 PM »
Is a ruling the same  as a judgement ?
yes.
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Offline G-Unit

Re: McCanns appeal to the European Court of Human Rights
« Reply #4576 on: May 09, 2022, 07:22:16 PM »
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10797661/Madeleine-McCanns-parents-await-decision-legal-battle-cop-blamed-disappearance.html?adobe_mc=TS%3D1652117458

Well done, Nick Pisa!

"Technically the case being considered by the court in Strasbourg is against Portugal and Portuguese justice, and not Amaral himself."

Maybe that's because'technically' only states and not individuals can be taken to the ECHR?

It seems an out of court settlement hasn't been achieved - allegedly.
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Online Eleanor

Re: McCanns appeal to the European Court of Human Rights
« Reply #4577 on: May 09, 2022, 08:01:00 PM »
Well done, Nick Pisa!

"Technically the case being considered by the court in Strasbourg is against Portugal and Portuguese justice, and not Amaral himself."

Maybe that's because'technically' only states and not individuals can be taken to the ECHR?

It seems an out of court settlement hasn't been achieved - allegedly.

Yet.

It is against a Court Judgement which was in favour of Amaral.

So don't jump the gun.

Offline G-Unit

Re: McCanns appeal to the European Court of Human Rights
« Reply #4578 on: May 09, 2022, 08:54:45 PM »
Yet.

It is against a Court Judgement which was in favour of Amaral.

So don't jump the gun.

All appeals have been heard and dismissed, so don't hold your breath.
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: McCanns appeal to the European Court of Human Rights
« Reply #4579 on: May 09, 2022, 08:59:44 PM »
All appeals have been heard and dismissed, so don't hold your breath.

That's why it's gone to the ECHR

Offline Mr Gray

Re: McCanns appeal to the European Court of Human Rights
« Reply #4580 on: May 09, 2022, 09:03:01 PM »
It will be a monumental embarrassment for Portugal and Amaral if the McCanns win

Online Eleanor

Re: McCanns appeal to the European Court of Human Rights
« Reply #4581 on: May 09, 2022, 09:05:57 PM »
All appeals have been heard and dismissed, so don't hold your breath.

Oh.  Have The ECHR dismissed this claim?  Could I have a Cite for this?

Online Eleanor

Re: McCanns appeal to the European Court of Human Rights
« Reply #4582 on: May 09, 2022, 09:12:07 PM »

Ah.  I see.  This claim has not been dismissed.  Fibbing again then.

You didn't actually believe that Portugal gets to decide, did you?

Don't hold your breath.

Offline G-Unit

Re: McCanns appeal to the European Court of Human Rights
« Reply #4583 on: May 09, 2022, 09:46:51 PM »
Ah.  I see.  This claim has not been dismissed.  Fibbing again then.

You didn't actually believe that Portugal gets to decide, did you?

Don't hold your breath.

Portugal has decided in the case the McCanns brought against Amaral. The case the McCanns brought against Portugal is under consideration at the ECHR. The two cases are related, but not connected.
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: McCanns appeal to the European Court of Human Rights
« Reply #4584 on: May 09, 2022, 09:58:24 PM »
Portugal has decided in the case the McCanns brought against Amaral. The case the McCanns brought against Portugal is under consideration at the ECHR. The two cases are related, but not connected.

It's possible the original case could be reheard after a favourable verdict for the McCanns... So the Portuguese case against amaral may not be over

Online Eleanor

Re: McCanns appeal to the European Court of Human Rights
« Reply #4585 on: May 09, 2022, 10:01:06 PM »
Portugal has decided in the case the McCanns brought against Amaral. The case the McCanns brought against Portugal is under consideration at the ECHR. The two cases are related, but not connected.

There would have been No Case but for Amaral.  In which case they are connected.  So let's not be silly about this.

As it is, I understand perfectly what the dispute is all about, but apparently you don't and I don't have the time or the patience to explain.

Online Eleanor

Re: McCanns appeal to the European Court of Human Rights
« Reply #4586 on: May 09, 2022, 10:06:22 PM »
It's possible the original case could be reheard after a favourable verdict for the McCanns... So the Portuguese case against amaral may not be over

Will this actually matter do you think?  Presuming that The McCanns win.  A Win would be fine by me.

Online Eleanor

Re: McCanns appeal to the European Court of Human Rights
« Reply #4587 on: May 10, 2022, 03:05:28 AM »

Having just read back and having nothing better to do.  Gunit's Comments are a gross misrepresentation of what is going on with The ECHR.

Is this acceptable?

Gunit has been rude to me on more than one occasion today. 

Is this acceptable?

Offline G-Unit

Re: McCanns appeal to the European Court of Human Rights
« Reply #4588 on: May 10, 2022, 06:33:01 AM »
Having just read back and having nothing better to do.  Gunit's Comments are a gross misrepresentation of what is going on with The ECHR.

Is this acceptable?

Gunit has been rude to me on more than one occasion today. 

Is this acceptable?

My comments on the ECHR are my opinion just as yours are and just as valid as anyone else's, so are acceptable.

Did you notice your nasty accusations and threats to me? Probably not.
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Online Eleanor

Re: McCanns appeal to the European Court of Human Rights
« Reply #4589 on: May 25, 2022, 10:41:23 AM »

Too much going on for me at the moment, with nothing happening.

But I would just like to say that The Judge of The First Instance probably got it right when she said that Amaral used his flawed knowledge of The Investigation, which he should not have been allowed to do.

This at least will be considered by The ECHR.  At least I do hope so.