McCanns appeal to the European Court of Human Rights

[Mr Gray]

Ah, but that's not what you said, is it? You said the text about the dog alerts didn't appear in the judgement.

Cite..it isn't what I said

[Eleanor]

The ECHR accept the proof as decided by the Portuguese courts...the action was not decided originally as a libel decision si the facts were not challenged. As I've said I blame the McCann's lawyers.
The alerts were not part if the original proven facts in the initial trial. That's a fact but gunit s called me a liar. They then becane part if the proven facts later

Hmm.  What a mess and a waste of time that was.  So I still don't understand the purpose of The ECHR.  They are only interested in Points of Law.  And nothing to do with Human Rights and Actual Facts.

Sorry if I don't entirely follow your line of thought although I am sure that you are right in interpretation of how the judgement came about.

But where does defence of humanity come into this?

[Mr Gray]

Hmm.  What a mess and a waste of time that was.  So I still don't understand the purpose of The ECHR.  They are only interested in Points of Law.  And nothing to do with Human Rights and Actual Facts.

Sorry if I don't entirely follow your line of thought although I am sure that you are right in interpretation of how the judgement came about.

But where does defence of humanity come into this?

It's up to the lawyers to present their case. The mccanns had a clear strong case based in the true facts of the case but the echr didn't look at the true facts..that isn't their job..they judge on the facts presented

[G-Unit]

i posted


You know that there is no proof that the dog alerted ti cadaver..that is a,fact..you know it's a fact..si if you call it an opinion you are a liar..how's that


Theres proof. All the other facts are posted im convinced you know they are true.. yet you call them opinions not facts...so tahts proof of lies.

There's no proof that the dog didn't alert to cadaver scent either.

[Eleanor]

I can't find anything about a first protocol, but some countries haven't signed Protocol 12 of the ECHR;

The Protocol entered into force on 1 April 2005 and has (as of March 2018) been ratified by 20 member states. Several member states—Bulgaria, Denmark, France, Lithuania, Monaco, Poland, Sweden, Switzerland, and the United Kingdom—have not signed the protocol.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_Convention_on_Human_Rights#:~:text=The%20Protocol%20entered%20into%20force,have%20not%20signed%20the%20protocol.

Exactement.  Need I say any more?

[Eleanor]

I agree wholeheartedly, but people need to admit to their mistakes.

This is gross impertinence.

[Mr Gray]

I agree wholeheartedly, but people need to admit to their mistakes.

If you check my post there's nothing incorrect in it...you need to correct your mistake

[jassi]

This is not True.

Got a cite for that?

[Eleanor]

Got a cite for that?

I don't need a Cite, so please don't be too silly.

[G-Unit]

That's a stupid comment.

It's as valid as your comment.

[jassi]

I don't need a Cite, so please don't be too silly.

Why don't you need a cite- you state it as a fact ?

[Eleanor]

Why don't you need a cite- you state it as a fact ?

No where does it state that everyone in The European Union must join The ECHR.  Unless you can find such a thing.

[Wonderfulspam]

That's a stupid comment.

That's the last post you moderate of mine...you are,a total fool..if that's what I have to endure..being moderated by a fool I won't bother to post again..the forumo is a total waste if time

I agree. The forum is a waste of time. We should be working together to bring about world peace or finding a cure for cancer. All this arguing about dogs & lies & facts is getting us nowhere.

[jassi]

I agree. The forum is a waste of time. We should be working together to bring about world peace or finding a cure for cancer. All this arguing about dogs & lies & facts is getting us nowhere.

Certainly this thread has been a complete waste of space.

McCann took Portugal to ECHR. McCann lost. End of.

[Eleanor]

Certainly this thread has been a complete waste of space.

McCann took Portugal to ECHR. McCann lost. End of.

This isn't like you.  You aren't normally gratuitously unpleasant.