Author Topic: Madeleine McCann alive?  (Read 24407 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Offline G-Unit

Re: Madeleine McCann alive?
« Reply #210 on: March 13, 2019, 06:30:15 PM »
Can Colin Sutton's opinion be described as evidence?
Read and abide by the forum rules.
Result = happy posting.
Ignore and break the rules
Result = edits, deletions and unhappiness
http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?board=2.0

Offline Venturi Swirl

Re: Madeleine McCann alive?
« Reply #211 on: March 13, 2019, 06:37:07 PM »
Can Colin Sutton's opinion be described as evidence?
Evidence of what?
"Surely the fact that their accounts were different reinforces their veracity rather than diminishes it? If they had colluded in protecting ........ surely all of their accounts would be the same?" - Faithlilly

Offline Brietta

Re: Madeleine McCann alive?
« Reply #212 on: March 13, 2019, 07:50:13 PM »
Does that mean the sum total of evidence for the open window and whooshing curtains amounts to no comment?

Why would you say that?
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline Brietta

Re: Madeleine McCann alive?
« Reply #213 on: March 13, 2019, 07:54:58 PM »
Which suspect in this case alleges they had a voluntary statement beaten out of them? As you can see I'm new and getting confused.  ()678%

I don't think that is an allegation I have ever seen posted anywhere on this forum before ... what makes you ask?
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline Brietta

Re: Madeleine McCann alive?
« Reply #214 on: March 13, 2019, 08:09:15 PM »
Because Davel said What statements, aren't voluntary.... Those that are beaten out of a, suspect, that's why. Why did he say that?
Please link to the post made by Davel to which you refer.  Thank you
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline Robittybob1

Re: Madeleine McCann alive?
« Reply #215 on: March 13, 2019, 08:21:09 PM »
I'm new, perhaps you can guide me on how link it please? I had C&P it. *&(+(+
How about that,
Look at the top line of a post. 
Re: Madeleine McCann alive?
« Reply #219 on: Today at 08:13:04 PM »
Quote "  where it says Quote click on that.
Moderation
John has instructed all moderators to take a very strong line with posters who constantly breach the rules of this forum.  This sniping, goading, name calling and other various forms of disruption will cease.

Offline G-Unit

Re: Madeleine McCann alive?
« Reply #216 on: March 13, 2019, 09:37:09 PM »
Evidence of what?

Blowed if I know. This is his opinion;

snip/
Collin Sutton, "We’re talking about interviews given by the McCanns and friends through an interpreter, written down in Portuguese and then translated back into English so officers from Grange can read them. The room for error would be enormous.”
http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=10595.msg515339#msg515339

This is the claim that his opinion is evidence;

snip/

the FACT that sutton made this statement..........All those facts are evidence
http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=10595.msg515349#msg515349
Read and abide by the forum rules.
Result = happy posting.
Ignore and break the rules
Result = edits, deletions and unhappiness
http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?board=2.0

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Madeleine McCann alive?
« Reply #217 on: March 13, 2019, 09:38:55 PM »
Blowed if I know. This is his opinion;

snip/
Collin Sutton, "We’re talking about interviews given by the McCanns and friends through an interpreter, written down in Portuguese and then translated back into English so officers from Grange can read them. The room for error would be enormous.”
http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=10595.msg515339#msg515339

This is the claim that his opinion is evidence;

snip/

the FACT that sutton made this statement..........All those facts are evidence
http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=10595.msg515349#msg515349

And his opinion is evidence to support the claim the statements are not accurate

Offline G-Unit

Re: Madeleine McCann alive?
« Reply #218 on: March 13, 2019, 10:12:31 PM »
And his opinion is evidence to support the claim the statements are not accurate

His opinion is his opinion. You can call it evidence but it has no meaningful evidential value, How could it be used, by whom and for what purpose?
Read and abide by the forum rules.
Result = happy posting.
Ignore and break the rules
Result = edits, deletions and unhappiness
http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?board=2.0

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Madeleine McCann alive?
« Reply #219 on: March 13, 2019, 10:13:21 PM »
His opinion is his opinion. You can call it evidence but it has no meaningful evidential value, How could it be used, by whom and for what purpose?

That's your opinion.. Not fact

Offline G-Unit

Re: Madeleine McCann alive?
« Reply #220 on: March 14, 2019, 07:36:52 AM »
That's your opinion.. Not fact

We could spend all day arguing about the meanings of words, but life's too short ino. Unless you can explain why you think the facts you quoted can be seen as evidence my interest in this discussion ends here..
Read and abide by the forum rules.
Result = happy posting.
Ignore and break the rules
Result = edits, deletions and unhappiness
http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?board=2.0

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Madeleine McCann alive?
« Reply #221 on: March 14, 2019, 07:47:54 AM »
We could spend all day arguing about the meanings of words, but life's too short ino. Unless you can explain why you think the facts you quoted can be seen as evidence my interest in this discussion ends here..
As they support the assertion that the statements are not accurate then by definition they are evidence... It could be argued that the statements have no evidential value, due to the way they were recorded ...as I pointed out to you they almost certainly can't be used against the mccanns
« Last Edit: March 14, 2019, 07:57:49 AM by Davel »

Offline G-Unit

Re: Madeleine McCann alive?
« Reply #222 on: March 14, 2019, 08:37:51 AM »
As they support the assertion that the statements are not accurate then by definition they are evidence... It could be argued that the statements have no evidential value, due to the way they were recorded ...as I pointed out to you they almost certainly can't be used against the mccanns

So you assert that the statements are not accurate and to prove that you're right you are saying others agree with you.

The people who made the statements signed them, thereby certifying their accuracy.
Read and abide by the forum rules.
Result = happy posting.
Ignore and break the rules
Result = edits, deletions and unhappiness
http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?board=2.0

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Madeleine McCann alive?
« Reply #223 on: March 14, 2019, 08:50:48 AM »
So you assert that the statements are not accurate and to prove that you're right you are saying others agree with you.

The people who made the statements signed them, thereby certifying their accuracy.

They signed them they didn't verify their accuracy... They couldn't as they were in portuguese... That is a fact you wont accept.. How can you verify the accuracy if something you don't understand...

Offline G-Unit

Re: Madeleine McCann alive?
« Reply #224 on: March 14, 2019, 09:13:01 AM »
They signed them they didn't verify their accuracy... They couldn't as they were in portuguese... That is a fact you wont accept.. How can you verify the accuracy if something you don't understand...


"With all formal witness statements, the interview is read over and its contents explained. After having shown their agreement with their statements, the interviewee confirms and signs as accurate the content of the document that follows, conjointly with the "sworn" interpreter, where one is used. This is normal procedure in all formal interviews. In co-signing, the interpreter commits themself legally concerning the accuracy of their translation."
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/TRANSLATIONS.htm
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/TRANSLATIONS.htm
Read and abide by the forum rules.
Result = happy posting.
Ignore and break the rules
Result = edits, deletions and unhappiness
http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?board=2.0