Wandering Off Topic

[Erngath]

An update on the pending charges against the man who accused Clarence Mitchell of "lying with as many teeth as he had in his head"  & also assured us that the only thing that didn't happen in the McCann case was an abduction....aka Moita Flores...
https://www.publico.pt/2019/05/20/sociedade/noticia/ministerio-publico-encontrou-635-mil-euros-contas-moita-flores-explicacao-1873325
Just a mere €635.000 of deposits in his company accounts under investigation.

Meanwhile, in the ongoing trial of another McCann-vocal ex-PJ Inspector, one of his co-accused has maintained that Paulo Cristovao was the mastermind behind home invasions.
https://sicnoticias.pt/pais/2019-05-29-Mustafa-diz-que-ex-inspetor-da-PJ-Pereira-Cristovao-foi-o-mandante-dos-assaltos

Cristovao is also linked to Bruno Carvalho, the pair having worked together at Sporting Lisbon. Amongst other crimes still under investigation, Carvalho may be involved in a € 500,000 social media fraud.
https://www.90min.com/posts/6113419-ex-sporting-cp-president-embroiled-in-500-000-per-year-communications-company-scandal

I had no idea that this man was the source of the lies, mouth, teeth as many as.
How deliciously ironic. Lol.

[G-Unit]

I thought it was Carlos Anjos who accused Clarence Mitchell of lying; "He lies with as many teeth as he has in his mouth..." he is reported as saying.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-559675/Portuguese-police-accuse-McCanns-spokesman-Clarence-Mitchell-lying-teeth.html

The fuss was triggered by the leaking of what were alleged to be the McCann's police statements to Spanish journalist Nacho Abad. Mitchell accused the PJ of leaking, but they denied it. Anjos thought Mitchell himself had given the journalist the information.

Given that the information the journalist broadcasted contained information which wasn't in the McCann's police statements I don't believe they are what Abad had got hold of.

[Erngath]

I thought it was Carlos Anjos who accused Clarence Mitchell of lying; "He lies with as many teeth as he has in his mouth..." he is reported as saying.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-559675/Portuguese-police-accuse-McCanns-spokesman-Clarence-Mitchell-lying-teeth.html

The fuss was triggered by the leaking of what were alleged to be the McCann's police statements to Spanish journalist Nacho Abad. Mitchell accused the PJ of leaking, but they denied it. Anjos thought Mitchell himself had given the journalist the information.

Given that the information the journalist broadcasted contained information which wasn't in the McCann's police statements I don't believe they are what Abad had got hold of.

I couldn't care less for any of those who are now being brought to book by the judiciary in Portugal.
I hope that the same happens to anyone in this country who is shown to be corrupt.!

[Carana]

I thought it was Carlos Anjos who accused Clarence Mitchell of lying; "He lies with as many teeth as he has in his mouth..." he is reported as saying.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-559675/Portuguese-police-accuse-McCanns-spokesman-Clarence-Mitchell-lying-teeth.html

The fuss was triggered by the leaking of what were alleged to be the McCann's police statements to Spanish journalist Nacho Abad. Mitchell accused the PJ of leaking, but they denied it. Anjos thought Mitchell himself had given the journalist the information.

Given that the information the journalist broadcasted contained information which wasn't in the McCann's police statements I don't believe they are what Abad had got hold of.

Why would Clarence have given the so-called "why didn't you come" bit to a Spanish journalist?

Did the McCanns have a copy of their statements?

Even if they did, why would they have given them to Clarence to leak at a time when they were focusing on support for an EU-wide alert system for missing children?
 
http://www.europarl.europa.eu/sides/getDoc.do?type=IM-PRESS&reference=20080407STO25859&language=EN

[Brietta]

Why would Clarence have given the so-called "why didn't you come" bit to a Spanish journalist?

Did the McCanns have a copy of their statements?

Even if they did, why would they have given them to Clarence to leak at a time when they were focusing on support for an EU-wide alert system for missing children?
 
http://www.europarl.europa.eu/sides/getDoc.do?type=IM-PRESS&reference=20080407STO25859&language=EN

Was that leaked when Rebelo was out of the country with his team dealing with the FSS and Rogatory Interviews necessitating him cutting short his visit to return to Portugal to get a grip?

[Carana]

Was that leaked when Rebelo was out of the country with his team dealing with the FSS and Rogatory Interviews necessitating him cutting short his visit to return to Portugal to get a grip?

The FSS visit was late November 2007
https://joana-morais.blogspot.com/2008/01/madeleine-mccanns-investigative-team.html

But, yes, it was when Rebelo et al were in the UK for the rogs.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1008821/Portuguese-detectives-set-quiz-Tapas-Seven-London-Madeleine-s-disappearance.html#ixzz2PensMDN1

[Carana]

There's a short thread on this: I'd got confused between the two visits, which is why I remember that they were indeed at different times.
http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=1146.0

[Eleanor]

There's a short thread on this: I'd got confused between the two visits, which is why I remember that they were indeed at different times.
http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=1146.0

Rebelo also left before David Payne's Rogatory Interview.  He obviously wasn't interested in that.   IMO.

[Carana]

Rebelo also left before David Payne's Rogatory Interview.  He obviously wasn't interested in that.   IMO.

It would be interesting to know if the visit was cut short or not. Doubt we'll ever know.

[Angelo222]

I couldn't care less for any of those who are now being brought to book by the judiciary in Portugal.
I hope that the same happens to anyone in this country who is shown to be corrupt.!

Had the McCanns exercised just a little common sense we wouldn't be here discussing them and their troubles now some ten years on.

[Erngath]

Had the McCanns exercised just a little common sense we wouldn't be here discussing them and their troubles now some ten years on.

It's such a pity that many  people  in a variety of situations don't exercise a little common sense.
Much heartache could be avoided.

[Carana]

The Law of Unintended Consequences.

In terms of placing themselves in the media spotlight (for a fee?) to speculate on the case, I'd agree.

Others will be quick to point out that the McCanns did as well, but to appeal to the public that their daughter was still missing.

[G-Unit]

Why would Clarence have given the so-called "why didn't you come" bit to a Spanish journalist?

Did the McCanns have a copy of their statements?

Even if they did, why would they have given them to Clarence to leak at a time when they were focusing on support for an EU-wide alert system for missing children?
 
http://www.europarl.europa.eu/sides/getDoc.do?type=IM-PRESS&reference=20080407STO25859&language=EN

Clatence's job was PR. This incident was brilliant PR. The PJ were accused of leaking confidential information in an attempt to damage the McCann's reputation just as they were campaigning on behalf of missing children.

It also served to publicise their campaign.

What is clear to me is that the reporter got the wrong facts. In my opinion nowhere in the McCann's police statements do these words appear when the crying incident was reported;

"Gerry and I talked about it for several minutes and decided to watch over the children more carefully at night."
https://jillhavern.forumotion.net/
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/madeleine-mccann-left-crying-in-bedroom-302219
"Gerry and I talked about it for several

[jassi]

Clatence's job was PR. This incident was brilliant PR. The PJ were accused of leaking confidential information in an attempt to damage the McCann's reputation just as they were campaigning on behalf of missing children.

It also served to publicise their campaign.

What is clear to me is that the reporter got the wrong facts. In my opinion nowhere in the McCann's police statements do these words appear when the crying incident was reported;

"Gerry and I talked about it for several minutes and decided to watch over the children more carefully at night."
https://jillhavern.forumotion.net/
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/madeleine-mccann-left-crying-in-bedroom-302219
"Gerry and I talked about it for several

If that was being more careful, what were the earlier arrangements?

[Carana]

How would it have served their campaign?