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Offline Nicholas

Re: Luke Mitchell is Innocent Says Ex FBI Profiler.
« Reply #30 on: November 08, 2021, 01:58:06 PM »
’Unmasked: Boy, 15, who lured 12-year-old friend to woodland before stabbing him 70 times and trying to decapitate him 'because he was a snitch' is jailed for 16 years for murder’ by Dan Sales for DailyMail

Excerpt:
Killer child Marcel Grzeszcz can now be named after a ruling from a High Court judge at Lincoln Crown Court, where he was sentenced to 16 years today.

Grzeszcz stabbed Roberts more than 70 times on ground in Fishtoft, near Boston, Lincolnshire, on December 12 last year, just two days before his 13th birthday.

Young murderer Grzeszcz still only just 14 when he was arrested by police at his family home.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10177581/Boy-15-murdered-12-year-old-friend-tried-decapitate-jailed-minimum-16-years.html
Who wants to take on this great massive lie?” Writer Martin Preib on the tsunami of innocence fraud sweeping our nation

Offline faithlilly

Re: Luke Mitchell is Innocent Says Ex FBI Profiler.
« Reply #31 on: November 08, 2021, 02:07:34 PM »
I'll do it for you, it was of course the original defence team who applied to both the FBI and the Crown, oddly not the police. But we actually do not know this, do we? One would be fair in their assumption, that if the legal team had applied to the police and were refused, this would be inclusive of these claims of non-disclosure. One thing is sure though, they certainly knew of it pre trial.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/3378781.stm

Applied to the FBI? Where is the evidence that the original defence team knew let alone applied to see the report? The existence of the report was only revealed through a FOI application. That’s not a mechanism the defence would have used, if they had known of the existence of the report, which it is obvious that at the time of the trial they didn’t.

From your link.

“Criminal profiling is used to narrow down an investigation to those suspects who possess certain behavioural and personality features, which are revealed by the way a crime was committed. “

According to the world renowned FBI Behavioural Analysis unit that was not Luke Mitchell.


What would be interesting to know when talking of "lust killing" is of course 'The Black Dahlia' - was this part of the request/report of the profiling. For everything around this type of killing was not simply left aside, was it? The book mentions that it would 'appear' the idea came from a police officer in the days after the murder?!

More muddying of the waters?

These "superficial" similarities of sexual areas being disfigured in both crimes, of LM's description, on par with the person who found Elizabeth Short, that of a shop mannequin/dummy. We know that Manson's art work was out prior to the murder, we know also there was a book released the same year around the BD murder. We know of the magazine with DVD bought and viewed within days of the murder by Mitchell. . We do not know that he knew not of the BD, of Manson and so forth. Having no hard evidence of him viewing/seeing this does not prove he did not. We know the murder and mutilation was described as rudimentary, in short a first attempt.  He stated he was introduced to Manson by Jodi, they started going out in the spring time that year, her sister a fan. One is not introduced to something without seeing/hearing them!

That’s the thing with the law, an accusation of a supposed action is not enough to damn a suspect. Rightly it needs to be shown, through evidence, that the suspect carried out the action and as hard as they tried, and we know they tried, the Crown brought not one scintilla of evidence to court that Luke Mitchell had either any interest in the Dahlia case or, indeed, had seen any of Manson’s paintings.

Yet again you are attempting to wrap unrelated actions in a fog of criminality, hoping no one will notice, or more importantly, care. Unfortunately you are wrong on both counts. 


So there is a definite connection between profiling around "lust killing" of the BD and Manson. The spanner being that of age where the profiler is concerned. But we know LM was mature beyond his years, we know he was not your average, normal teenager, we only have to look at his interviews, the very reason his defence did not want them played at trial. That complete control, flat effect voice against the barrage of sexual questioning by the police. Where the author attempts to show reactive response with some cherry picked areas, reading in black and white does not show the truth, hearing Mitchell showed exactly how in control, calm and unfazed he was. Taking control the whole time.

How do we know that he was mature beyond his years? He smoked…so did many of his peer group. He smoked cannabis…so did most of his peer group. He was sexually active….can you see where this one is going? There is nothing to suggest that Luke was emotionally mature beyond his years. He was confident and intelligent. It does not automatically follow that he was unusually mature.

There is absolutely no doubt that the FBI behavioural analysts would have been supplied by Dobbie and his team with  tapes of Luke being interviewed yet, even after listening to them, in their opinion, Luke lacked the maturity and psychological capacity to commit the kind of crime perpetrated against Jodi Jones. 

Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline Nicholas

Re: Luke Mitchell is Innocent Says Ex FBI Profiler.
« Reply #32 on: November 08, 2021, 02:21:20 PM »
Luke lacked the maturity and psychological capacity to commit the kind of crime perpetrated against Jodi Jones

Marcel Grzeszcz was also 14 years old when he committed murder ⬇️ and displayed similar behaviours to killer Luke Mitchell

The court also heard about Grzeszcz's troubled past.

He had been kicked out of school for having a knife and sent to a pupil referral unit, and later excluded from another school for selling drugs.

https://news.sky.com/story/roberts-buncis-boy-jailed-for-murder-after-luring-12-year-old-friend-to-woodland-and-stabbing-him-more-than-70-times-12463981
Who wants to take on this great massive lie?” Writer Martin Preib on the tsunami of innocence fraud sweeping our nation

Offline faithlilly

Re: Luke Mitchell is Innocent Says Ex FBI Profiler.
« Reply #33 on: November 08, 2021, 02:26:06 PM »
Marcel Grzeszcz was also 14 years old when he committed murder ⬇️ and displayed similar behaviours to killer Luke Mitchell

The court also heard about Grzeszcz's troubled past.

He had been kicked out of school for having a knife and sent to a pupil referral unit, and later excluded from another school for selling drugs.

https://news.sky.com/story/roberts-buncis-boy-jailed-for-murder-after-luring-12-year-old-friend-to-woodland-and-stabbing-him-more-than-70-times-12463981

Children kill…that’s not disputed.

Your point?
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline Nicholas

Re: Luke Mitchell is Innocent Says Ex FBI Profiler.
« Reply #34 on: November 08, 2021, 02:57:09 PM »
Children kill…that’s not disputed.

Your point?

14 going on 15 year old killer Luke Mitchell did have the ‘maturity and psychological capacity to commit the kind of crime perpetrated against Jodi Jones’ - plus his mother Corinne has made numerous references to his ‘maturity and ‘psychological capacity’ over the years
Who wants to take on this great massive lie?” Writer Martin Preib on the tsunami of innocence fraud sweeping our nation

Offline faithlilly

Re: Luke Mitchell is Innocent Says Ex FBI Profiler.
« Reply #35 on: November 08, 2021, 05:32:00 PM »
14 going on 15 year old killer Luke Mitchell did have the ‘maturity and psychological capacity to commit the kind of crime perpetrated against Jodi Jones’ - plus his mother Corinne has made numerous references to his ‘maturity and ‘psychological capacity’ over the years

Not according to the world renowned FBI Behavioural Analysis team, professionals who actually know what they are talking about.
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline Venturi Swirl

Re: Luke Mitchell is Innocent Says Ex FBI Profiler.
« Reply #36 on: November 08, 2021, 05:45:30 PM »
Not according to the world renowned FBI Behavioural Analysis team, professionals who actually know what they are talking about.
your faith and trust in FBI criminal profilers is touching but somewhat surprising

https://abcnews.go.com/2020/story?id=4766445&page=1
"Surely the fact that their accounts were different reinforces their veracity rather than diminishes it? If they had colluded in protecting ........ surely all of their accounts would be the same?" - Faithlilly

Offline Nicholas

Re: Luke Mitchell is Innocent Says Ex FBI Profiler.
« Reply #37 on: November 08, 2021, 06:23:53 PM »
Not according to the world renowned FBI Behavioural Analysis team, professionals who actually know what they are talking about.

Who is this ‘team’ you are referring to?




Who wants to take on this great massive lie?” Writer Martin Preib on the tsunami of innocence fraud sweeping our nation

Offline Nicholas

Re: Luke Mitchell is Innocent Says Ex FBI Profiler.
« Reply #38 on: November 08, 2021, 06:27:08 PM »
Who wants to take on this great massive lie?” Writer Martin Preib on the tsunami of innocence fraud sweeping our nation

Offline Nicholas

Re: Luke Mitchell is Innocent Says Ex FBI Profiler.
« Reply #39 on: November 08, 2021, 06:28:37 PM »
Innocence fraud can be a lucrative business for ex FBI criminal profilers
Who wants to take on this great massive lie?” Writer Martin Preib on the tsunami of innocence fraud sweeping our nation

Offline Venturi Swirl

Re: Luke Mitchell is Innocent Says Ex FBI Profiler.
« Reply #40 on: November 08, 2021, 06:34:08 PM »
Marcel Grzeszcz was also 14 years old when he committed murder ⬇️ and displayed similar behaviours to killer Luke Mitchell

The court also heard about Grzeszcz's troubled past.

He had been kicked out of school for having a knife and sent to a pupil referral unit, and later excluded from another school for selling drugs.

https://news.sky.com/story/roberts-buncis-boy-jailed-for-murder-after-luring-12-year-old-friend-to-woodland-and-stabbing-him-more-than-70-times-12463981
It probably won’t be long before a bunch of nutters are trying to get him out of jail too.
"Surely the fact that their accounts were different reinforces their veracity rather than diminishes it? If they had colluded in protecting ........ surely all of their accounts would be the same?" - Faithlilly

Offline faithlilly

Re: Luke Mitchell is Innocent Says Ex FBI Profiler.
« Reply #41 on: November 08, 2021, 07:34:40 PM »
⬇️

https://aklwei.wordpress.com/tag/jim-clemente/

A blogger and an FBI agent who was neither a profiler nor a member of the Behavioural Analysis Unit.

What exactly are you trying to prove?
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline Venturi Swirl

Re: Luke Mitchell is Innocent Says Ex FBI Profiler.
« Reply #42 on: November 08, 2021, 08:00:54 PM »
A blogger and an FBI agent who was neither a profiler nor a member of the Behavioural Analysis Unit.

What exactly are you trying to prove?
FBI Special Agent and profiler Brad Garrett.
"Surely the fact that their accounts were different reinforces their veracity rather than diminishes it? If they had colluded in protecting ........ surely all of their accounts would be the same?" - Faithlilly

Offline faithlilly

Re: Luke Mitchell is Innocent Says Ex FBI Profiler.
« Reply #43 on: November 10, 2021, 06:25:26 PM »
And more experts who believe that there is doubt regarding Luke’s conviction.

https://youtu.be/Za9URBNFmSA
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline Chris_Halkides

Re: Luke Mitchell is Innocent Says Ex FBI Profiler.
« Reply #44 on: February 11, 2022, 02:56:20 PM »
I was glad to see Allan Jamieson interviewed.  His comments about the forensics carry some weight, given that he was the coauthor of a 2013 review article on DNA transfer.