The McCann v Gonçalo Amaral libel trial as it happens.

[Mr Gray]

amaral has had his 15 minutes of fame..hes finished imo

[jassi]

amaral has had his 15 minutes of fame..hes finished imo

If this is so, why do you make such a big deal of it?

[Mr Gray]

If this is so, why do you make such a big deal of it?

im not..you are

[jassi]

im not..you are

   Hardly - I'm not fussed either way and I'm quite happy to await the judge's verdict.

[Mr Gray]

  Hardly - I'm not fussed either way and I'm quite happy to await the judge's verdict.

 As am i

[ferryman]

A fundamental tenet of Amaral's thesis is that the McCanns drove Madeleine somewhere dead in the car.

That is disproved.

What else is there?

[Redblossom]

A fundamental tenet of Amaral's thesis is that the McCanns drove Madeleine somewhere dead in the car.

That is disproved.

What else is there?

the trial is not about the polices theories, keep up.....

[Mr Gray]

the trial is not about the polices theories, keep up.....

 no its about if amaral told lies

[John]

Can you elaborate on this John?

If this is indeed a risk, it begs once more the question of why on earth they embarked on this trial.

They were foolish to persue this case against Gonçalo Amaral while Madeleine remains a 'disappeared'.  If she had been found alive they would have had a case but as it stands I don't believe they can prove a libel.  Instead, all they have managed to do is to promote Amaral plc to an even greater extent.

As far as hindering the worldwide search is concerned I believe his book improved the chances of her being found.

[Redblossom]

They were foolish to persue this case against Gonçalo Amaral while Madeleine remains a 'disappeared'.  If she had been found alive they would have had a case but as it stands I don't believe they can prove a libel.  Instead, all they have managed to do is to promote Amaral plc to an even greater extent.

As far as hindering the worldwide search is concerned I believe his book improved the chances of her being found.

Tend to agree with that and also how can they prove he libelled them when Madeleine just remains disappeared! and the case unsolved. And not forgetting the interim police report and the final legal summary....which concluded they have no idea of what crime was committed or by who albeit the PP did say something along the lines of it being difficult to see how the mccanns were involved, but still, no clearance or resolution

Eta

I must also say that had she been found alive post the book...it wouldnt have changed anything as that is what Mr Amaral thought at the time......and also something the investigation did not refute at any time.....

people should read what the higher court said too, and reread


http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=2168.0

[Mr Gray]

Tend to agree with that and also how can they prove he libelled them when Madeleine just remains disappeared! and the case unsolved. And not forgetting the interim police report and the final legal summary....which concluded they have no idea of what crime was committed or by who albeit the PP did say something along the lines of it being difficult to see how the mccanns were involved, but still, no clearance or resolution

 wishful thinking...I think it goes without saying that the book would have been deemed libellous according to uk law...thats why it was never published here... I don't know Portuguese libel law but the fact that amaral has tried to delay the case several times makes me think hes worried..looks good for the McCanns imo..but who knows

[ferryman]

If it can be proved that key aspects of the investigation were incompetent (I believe it can be proved) then Amaral based his thesis on an incompetent investigation, rendering his claims untenable.

[Redblossom]

If it can be proved that key aspects of the investigation were incompetent (I believe it can be proved) then Amaral based his thesis on an incompetent investigation, rendering his claims untenable.

Thats called desperation.......imo?..and too late

[John]

If it can be proved that key aspects of the investigation were incompetent (I believe it can be proved) then Amaral based his thesis on an incompetent investigation, rendering his claims untenable.

Maybe you have forgotten that the investigation was frustrated by the actions of several individuals who thought they could do a better job and only ended up scaring off witnesses.  I believe that had Gonçalo Amaral not been removed from the case he would have had certain people indicted on charges of interfering with a missing person inquiry.

[Mr Gray]

If it can be proved that key aspects of the investigation were incompetent (I believe it can be proved) then Amaral based his thesis on an incompetent investigation, rendering his claims untenable.

not important ...depends solely on Portuguese law...amaral accuses the mccanns of covering up an accident and disposing of the body...he has no proof...that is libel in uk courts ..is it libel in Portugal..perhaps...as I have said amaral has been hiding so perhaps it is