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Offline G-Unit

Re: "no evidence" to support a theory missing girl Madeleine McCann is alive
« Reply #690 on: October 29, 2018, 08:50:36 AM »
Maybe Amaral should have investigated all avenues,  instead of dismissing everything?

As I understand it there was no evidence that anyone used that window. Why, therefore, would any detective wonder about shoes?
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« Reply #691 on: October 29, 2018, 09:04:12 AM »
As I understand it there was no evidence that anyone used that window. Why, therefore, would any detective wonder about shoes?

What evidence was that?   No fingerprints,  person could have wiped the window.

Did the police 'wonder' about how that man who assaulted children got into the apartments?  -


"Whilst not identical, there are many similar aspects to each of the incidents in that in most cases there were no signs of forced entry to the property, nothing was taken, and the intruder appeared in the early hours of the morning," between 2 and 5 a.m., police said in a statement






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« Reply #692 on: October 29, 2018, 09:26:27 AM »
What evidence was that?   No fingerprints,  person could have wiped the window.

Did the police 'wonder' about how that man who assaulted children got into the apartments?  -


"Whilst not identical, there are many similar aspects to each of the incidents in that in most cases there were no signs of forced entry to the property, nothing was taken, and the intruder appeared in the early hours of the morning," between 2 and 5 a.m., police said in a statement
Nothing taken being the relevant part imo.
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Offline Brietta

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« Reply #693 on: October 29, 2018, 09:34:35 AM »
Nothing taken being the relevant part imo.

Madeleine?
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

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Offline G-Unit

Re: "no evidence" to support a theory missing girl Madeleine McCann is alive
« Reply #695 on: October 29, 2018, 09:54:56 AM »
What evidence was that?   No fingerprints,  person could have wiped the window.

Did the police 'wonder' about how that man who assaulted children got into the apartments?  -


"Whilst not identical, there are many similar aspects to each of the incidents in that in most cases there were no signs of forced entry to the property, nothing was taken, and the intruder appeared in the early hours of the morning," between 2 and 5 a.m., police said in a statement

According to Kate McCann the shutters and window were open at 22.00. According to Jane Tanner the 'abductor' struck between 21.10 and 21.20. According to Matt Oldfield the shutters and window weren't open at 21.30. In my opinion that conundrum was enough to keep the detectives busy.

Did the PJ know about this man you refer to?
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Offline Brietta

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« Reply #696 on: October 29, 2018, 10:19:26 AM »
Allegedly.
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Tucson police said at the time that they believed she was kidnapped from her home, citing a broken screen they found in her bedroom.

“We have a window that was opened and a screen removed,” then-Tucson Police Chief Roberto Villaseñor said in 2012, according to CNN.

“We’re labeling it as suspicious circumstances and a possible abduction,” Villaseñor said.
https://people.com/crime/missin-isabel-celis-found-dead-tucson-arizona/


Whether they believed it or not the Tuscon police ran with the evidence they had to hand when Isabel Celis disappeared, which in my opinion was less than the Portuguese police had, given the eye witness testimony of Jane Tanner.

Sadly the abduction theory they followed turned out to be the correct one.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

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« Reply #697 on: October 29, 2018, 10:25:49 AM »
Snip
Tucson police said at the time that they believed she was kidnapped from her home, citing a broken screen they found in her bedroom.

“We have a window that was opened and a screen removed,” then-Tucson Police Chief Roberto Villaseñor said in 2012, according to CNN.

“We’re labeling it as suspicious circumstances and a possible abduction,” Villaseñor said.
https://people.com/crime/missin-isabel-celis-found-dead-tucson-arizona/


Whether they believed it or not the Tuscon police ran with the evidence they had to hand when Isabel Celis disappeared, which in my opinion was less than the Portuguese police had, given the eye witness testimony of Jane Tanner.

Sadly the abduction theory they followed turned out to be the correct one.


Jane Tanners evidence was of no significance according to Redwood and the case moved on from there, so its possible the PJ had even less particularly given there was no broken screen or in this case shutter,so the link between the two is tenuous at best imo.

Also possible abduction, nothing confirmed.
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Offline Brietta

Re: "no evidence" to support a theory missing girl Madeleine McCann is alive
« Reply #698 on: October 29, 2018, 10:32:57 AM »

Jane Tanners evidence was of no importance according to Redwood and the case moved on from there,so its possible the PJ had even less also given there was no broken screen or in this case shutter,so the link between the two is tenuous at best imo.

I don't recall DCI Redwood saying Jane's evidence was of no import.

The link is that both children disappeared from their beds ... but I think you are probably correct that the link in progressing the investigation ends there.  Apparently one police force followed the evidence ... one police force ignored eye witness evidence.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline Alice Purjorick

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« Reply #699 on: October 29, 2018, 12:37:34 PM »
I don't recall DCI Redwood saying Jane's evidence was of no import.

The link is that both children disappeared from their beds ... but I think you are probably correct that the link in progressing the investigation ends there.  Apparently one police force followed the evidence ... one police force ignored eye witness evidence.

Eye witness evidence of what precisely?
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Offline Sunny

Re: "no evidence" to support a theory missing girl Madeleine McCann is alive
« Reply #700 on: October 29, 2018, 01:14:19 PM »
I don't recall DCI Redwood saying Jane's evidence was of no import.

The link is that both children disappeared from their beds ... but I think you are probably correct that the link in progressing the investigation ends there.  Apparently one police force followed the evidence ... one police force ignored eye witness evidence.

He said he had found Jane Tanners man so therefore he would be irrelevant to the case unless he had seen anything of course.  Unless you think that he is still the suspect in which case I would inform Scotland Yard or the PJ.
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Offline Brietta

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« Reply #701 on: October 29, 2018, 04:55:22 PM »
He said he had found Jane Tanners man so therefore he would be irrelevant to the case unless he had seen anything of course.  Unless you think that he is still the suspect in which case I would inform Scotland Yard or the PJ.

Did he actually say that?  Can you provide a quote, please.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

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« Reply #702 on: October 29, 2018, 05:33:32 PM »
Almost certain is Redwoods words in his revelation moment, shifting the focus onto Smithman.All information pertaining to OG is no longer available from the MET site this could be they have either identified Smithman or given up depending on ones point of view.
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Offline Brietta

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« Reply #703 on: October 29, 2018, 06:33:43 PM »
Almost certain is Redwoods words in his revelation moment, shifting the focus onto Smithman.All information pertaining to OG is no longer available from the MET site this could be they have either identified Smithman or given up depending on ones point of view.

You are making specific claims you cannot substantiate ... which really isn't good enough is it? 
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

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« Reply #704 on: October 29, 2018, 06:43:49 PM »
You are making specific claims you cannot substantiate ... which really isn't good enough is it?

Could be is far from specific,unless you mean Redwoods words.

Redwood:"DCI Redwood said it was a "revelation moment" when police discovered that the man seen by McCanns' friend Jane Tanner at 9.15pm was almost certainly an innocent British holiday-maker collecting his two-year-old daughter from a nearby creche.
He said: "Our focus in terms of understanding what happened on the night of 3 May has now given us a shift of emphasis. We are almost certain that the man seen by Jane Tanner is not Madeleine's abductor.
"It takes us through to a position at 10pm when we see another man who is walking towards the ocean, close by to the apartment, with a young child in his arms."
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