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Offline Nicholas

Re: Is Luke Mitchell guilty - your views
« Reply #780 on: November 13, 2018, 01:39:33 PM »
How you have worded that makes it all sound so simple. He was shown pics of Jodi but unlike anyone else who may have been shown them, he didnt get the same warning. No that was the whole idea. To knock him off his feet with the shock of seeing such pictures so his mind was in turmoil. A tactic they used on the Mitchell family quite often during the process!

https://www.thefreelibrary.com/JODI+PICS+HORROR+OF+MITCHELL%27S+BROTHER%3B+Tears+at+death+trial.-a0126987509
Who wants to take on this great massive lie?” Writer Martin Preib on the tsunami of innocence fraud sweeping our nation

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Offline Nicholas

Re: Is Luke Mitchell guilty - your views
« Reply #782 on: November 13, 2018, 01:47:29 PM »

The line of questioning lead Shane to say he could have been watching porn...

Shane Mitchell's evidence helped to convict his brother for [Name removed]'s murder!
Who wants to take on this great massive lie?” Writer Martin Preib on the tsunami of innocence fraud sweeping our nation

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Re: Is Luke Mitchell guilty - your views
« Reply #783 on: November 13, 2018, 01:50:17 PM »
https://www.thefreelibrary.com/JODI+PICS+HORROR+OF+MITCHELL%27S+BROTHER%3B+Tears+at+death+trial.-a0126987509

Also he didnt have a break between looking at the pics. he asked for one but it wasnt allowed. Sense a theme with asking and not receiving for the Mitchell family!

It was in fact Kelly who asked for a break and was given one along with a drink of water. No such luck for Shane, he just had to continue!
« Last Edit: November 13, 2018, 01:54:44 PM by jixy »

Offline justsaying

Re: Is Luke Mitchell guilty - your views
« Reply #784 on: November 13, 2018, 01:52:07 PM »
Shane Mitchell's evidence helped to convict his brother for [Name removed]'s murder!


Not surprising, the way they dealt with him court, refusing him a break after showing him pictures with his brothers mutilated girlfriend on them. The interrogation was as bad as it was when the police interrogated him. He never once said Luke WAS NOT in the house... Moving on!

Offline justsaying

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« Reply #785 on: November 13, 2018, 01:54:58 PM »

The line of questioning lead Shane to say he could have been watching porn...

The time recorded for the porn sites being open on the computer suggested they were pop-ups as opposed to the sites being entered properly.

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Re: Is Luke Mitchell guilty - your views
« Reply #786 on: November 13, 2018, 01:55:54 PM »
And he never said yes i WAS watching porn! helpful for people to be left thinking that though isnt it

Offline justsaying

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« Reply #787 on: November 13, 2018, 01:58:19 PM »
And he never said yes i WAS watching porn! helpful for people to be left thinking that though isnt it

Of course it is, they twisted the evidence to fit their case, they wouldn't have had to act so underhand if their case was strong enough without them doing so.

Offline Nicholas

Re: Is Luke Mitchell guilty - your views
« Reply #788 on: November 13, 2018, 02:10:25 PM »
https://www.thefreelibrary.com/JODI+PICS+HORROR+OF+MITCHELL%27S+BROTHER%3B+Tears+at+death+trial.-a0126987509
Byline: By Gordon McIlwraith

"LUKE Mitchell's brother recoiled in horror yesterday as he was shown gruesome pictures of Jodi Jones's naked and mutilated body.

Shane Mitchell, 23, was confronted with the shocking images in court.

He turned away after being shown the first photo and immediately asked for a break.

Shane sat in the witness box sipping a glass of water and wiping tears from his eyes before he had to look at another four photos.

He then admitted that, when he returned home on the day that Jodi died, he watched porn on his computer because he thought he was alone in the house.

Luke Mitchell, now 16, denies murdering Jodi, and maintains he was in the house when she died.

Shane told the High Court in Edinburgh that, on June 30, 2003, he arrived home at Newbattle Abbey Crescent, Dalkeith, Midlothian, at 4.50pm.

He said he went upstairs to his bedroom and watched porn on the internet.

Advocate depute Alan Turnbull, QC, told Shane he had no desire to humiliate or embarrass him but he wanted to know if he did anything else at that time.

When Shane said he wasn't, Mr Turnbull asked him to look at photos of Jodi's body where it was found near the town's wooded Roan's Dyke path.

As he glanced at the first photo, Mr Turnbull stated: 'I am not surprised to see your reaction. You looked a bit horrified and looked away, didn't you?

Shane replied: 'Yes.' Mr Turnbull added: 'These are not pleasant.The reason I asked you to look at these is so you can appreciate what we are dealing with. Do you understand now?

'Do you appreciate I can't let embarrassment stand in the way of getting to the bottom of this?'

Again, Shane replied: 'Yes.' The witness then admitted he had been engaged in a sex act while watching porn.

He agreed with the prosecutor that he wouldn't have done that if he thought anyone else had been home.

Mr Turnbull asked him: 'On that evening,about 4.55pm,who did you think was in the house?'

Shane told him: 'No one at that time.' The advocate depute then asked: 'Did you see Luke when you went down after the internet session?'

The witness told the court:'I genuinely don't remember seeing my brother. He could have been there.'

Shane said his mum arrived home about 5.15pm and he joined her downstairs.

Mr Turnbull read out a police statement from Luke Mitchell in which he said he had tea with his mum before leaving the house at about 5.30pm to wait for Jodi.

His mother was present at the interview and, when police asked if he had eaten with Shane, his brother had asked her: 'Shane wasn't there, was he?'

His mum had intervened: 'No.' Luke had then added: 'Shane was not in when I left.'

Luke Mitchell denies murder and has lodged a special defence of alibi and incrimination. He said he was at home or in the immediate vicinity between 5pm and 5.45pm.




Who wants to take on this great massive lie?” Writer Martin Preib on the tsunami of innocence fraud sweeping our nation

Offline Nicholas

Re: Is Luke Mitchell guilty - your views
« Reply #789 on: November 13, 2018, 02:15:50 PM »
Shane said his mum arrived home about 5.15pm and he joined her downstairs.

Mr Turnbull read out a police statement from Luke Mitchell in which he said he had tea with his mum before leaving the house at about 5.30pm to wait for Jodi.

His mother was present at the interview and, when police asked if he had eaten with Shane, his brother had asked her: 'Shane wasn't there, was he?'

His mum had intervened: 'No.' Luke had then added: 'Shane was not in when I left.'

Luke Mitchell denies murder and has lodged a special defence of alibi and incrimination. He said he was at home or in the immediate vicinity between 5pm and 5.45pm.

This is what Corrine Mitchell claimed some years later:

"When I got home I went directly to the kitchen where I was confronted by Luke brandishing the broccoli! He asked if it should be that colour (it was turning yellowy) and I said no......bin the broccoli! He decided on beans instead...as it was a Monday and I do my weekly shop on a Tuesday there wasn't any other fresh vegetables left.

Both Luke and I served up. I told Luke to shout Shane down as he was upstairs. Shane came down, complained to Luke he had burnt the pie, I told him it could be scraped off, it wasn't that bad. Shane returned upstairs armed with his dinner. Luke ate his in front of the TV and I decided to have mine on the patio as I had been cooped up in my office all day and not seen any sun.

After eating dinner I was preparing to do the dishes when Luke came into the kitchen and said that that was him off. I joked with him and said.....don't tell me ...your seeing Jodi....as by this time Jodi had become more favourable than the cadets. I also suggested to him that he introduced his clothes to the washing machine as he had worn them for a couple of days. I got the usual teenage response......Och mum!.....and "this is Jodi’s favourite t-shirt" I replied it wouldn't be much longer if it didn't get washed and with that I got another "Och".....I'm off, see you later!

Shane came and went most of the evening, which I found quite irritating! I had stopped smoking, due to pressure from Shane, and had discovered that tracking and smoking don't go as it involves a lot of running, but by this time I was having the odd sneaky one due to pressure at work. This is our busiest time. Every time I went to "light up" Shane appeared and nearly caught me. Then just as I was safe in the knowledge that Shane was engrossed in his computer......Lit up fag.......Luke comes in.......I never got a sneaky cig that night. The rest is on the time~line. Hope this helps.
Who wants to take on this great massive lie?” Writer Martin Preib on the tsunami of innocence fraud sweeping our nation

Offline justsaying

Re: Is Luke Mitchell guilty - your views
« Reply #790 on: November 13, 2018, 02:16:47 PM »
Byline: By Gordon McIlwraith

"LUKE Mitchell's brother recoiled in horror yesterday as he was shown gruesome pictures of Jodi Jones's naked and mutilated body.

Shane Mitchell, 23, was confronted with the shocking images in court.

He turned away after being shown the first photo and immediately asked for a break.

Shane sat in the witness box sipping a glass of water and wiping tears from his eyes before he had to look at another four photos.

He then admitted that, when he returned home on the day that Jodi died, he watched porn on his computer because he thought he was alone in the house.

Luke Mitchell, now 16, denies murdering Jodi, and maintains he was in the house when she died.

Shane told the High Court in Edinburgh that, on June 30, 2003, he arrived home at Newbattle Abbey Crescent, Dalkeith, Midlothian, at 4.50pm.

He said he went upstairs to his bedroom and watched porn on the internet.

Advocate depute Alan Turnbull, QC, told Shane he had no desire to humiliate or embarrass him but he wanted to know if he did anything else at that time.

When Shane said he wasn't, Mr Turnbull asked him to look at photos of Jodi's body where it was found near the town's wooded Roan's Dyke path.

As he glanced at the first photo, Mr Turnbull stated: 'I am not surprised to see your reaction. You looked a bit horrified and looked away, didn't you?

Shane replied: 'Yes.' Mr Turnbull added: 'These are not pleasant.The reason I asked you to look at these is so you can appreciate what we are dealing with. Do you understand now?

'Do you appreciate I can't let embarrassment stand in the way of getting to the bottom of this?'

Again, Shane replied: 'Yes.' The witness then admitted he had been engaged in a sex act while watching porn.

He agreed with the prosecutor that he wouldn't have done that if he thought anyone else had been home.

Mr Turnbull asked him: 'On that evening,about 4.55pm,who did you think was in the house?'

Shane told him: 'No one at that time.' The advocate depute then asked: 'Did you see Luke when you went down after the internet session?'

The witness told the court:'I genuinely don't remember seeing my brother. He could have been there.'

Shane said his mum arrived home about 5.15pm and he joined her downstairs.

Mr Turnbull read out a police statement from Luke Mitchell in which he said he had tea with his mum before leaving the house at about 5.30pm to wait for Jodi.

His mother was present at the interview and, when police asked if he had eaten with Shane, his brother had asked her: 'Shane wasn't there, was he?'

His mum had intervened: 'No.' Luke had then added: 'Shane was not in when I left.'

Luke Mitchell denies murder and has lodged a special defence of alibi and incrimination. He said he was at home or in the immediate vicinity between 5pm and 5.45pm.

Another sensationalised article, funny how excerpts from transcripts do not say this. Yes they are in Sandra Lean's book, word for word! Even if Shane wasn't home when Luke left that just means Shane could have left before him, yet again nothing conclusive!

Offline Nicholas

Re: Is Luke Mitchell guilty - your views
« Reply #791 on: November 13, 2018, 02:17:32 PM »
And he never said yes i WAS watching porn! helpful for people to be left thinking that though isnt it

".....The witness then admitted he had been engaged in a sex act while watching porn
Who wants to take on this great massive lie?” Writer Martin Preib on the tsunami of innocence fraud sweeping our nation

Offline justsaying

Re: Is Luke Mitchell guilty - your views
« Reply #792 on: November 13, 2018, 02:18:09 PM »
"Shane came and went most of the evening, which I found quite irritating"

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Re: Is Luke Mitchell guilty - your views
« Reply #793 on: November 13, 2018, 02:18:17 PM »
From the Court Transcript

After picture 1 the QC says you looked a bit horrified and Shane asks for  a break... The Judge says you can sit down.

The OC asks are you all right? Shane says Uh huh and the QC says now look at picture W X and AA they are not pleasant!

Then goes on to say dont let embarrassment get in the way

So you can see, no break  just permission to sit down just in case his legs gave out from under him due to the shock of seeing the pics.

Offline Nicholas

Re: Is Luke Mitchell guilty - your views
« Reply #794 on: November 13, 2018, 02:19:18 PM »

Not surprising, the way they dealt with him court, refusing him a break after showing him pictures with his brothers mutilated girlfriend on them. The interrogation was as bad as it was when the police interrogated him. He never once said Luke WAS NOT in the house... Moving on!

"He turned away after being shown the first photo and immediately asked for a break.

Shane sat in the witness box sipping a glass of water and wiping tears from his eyes before he had to look at another four photos.

He then admitted that, when he returned home on the day that Jodi died, he watched porn on his computer because he thought he was alone in the house
Who wants to take on this great massive lie?” Writer Martin Preib on the tsunami of innocence fraud sweeping our nation